Around here they're useless. Areas where the cops have big budgets radar detectors become essentially useless. Our guys here have instant on radar guns that hit you multiple times within a second. IMO, the only useful things are radar and laser jammers. But radar jammers are epic felony level stuff, and laser jammers only work on lasers. And of course, none of it helps when they're just cruising up and down the highway with their planes and helicopters.
2chguy: nut up man... this is car audio we're talking about
2chguy: if it was easy, it would be called home audio
Then it's time to start selling those radar absorbent paint like the ones used on the B2 bombers
In CA there's this loophole regarding coppers on choppers i.e. in order for you to get issued with a valid ticket he/she has to be wearing full uniform, which most of them don't when flying a chopper. So you go to court with the ticket and request proof that the officer was wearing their full uniform, if evidence is unable to be presented then the judge usually dismiss the case
But I'm surprised that Police would go as far as instant-on radar guns to avoid radar detectors.
Well the very least these detectors will tell you where stationary radars are located. And that's another thing that the Governator approved recently: stationary speed radars to (not discourage speeding) increase state revenue income He actually said on TV interview exactly that.
there's MAP policy in place so I can only advertise them to a set standard. So its marketing game of who could capture the most customer while advertising the same price.
did u know there's also laser jammers, and apparently they're legal.
it plug straight into the beltronics radar detector.
and the other fact that impressed me was that police apparently have "radar detector" detector, and beltronics therefore released the "anti radar-detector detector" radar detector.
I recently installed an Escort QI45 with shifters and it works as expected. Haven't had a chance to "test" the shifters but I'm hoping for the best.
Radar detectors aren't a perfect solution, and the best option is still to simply not be a dumbass, but they can be a helpful tool in your belt when on the highway.
Im kinda suprised with this post from a vendor... When i had my shop, we carried K40, Escort, and Bell... All 3 provided extensive training.. Usually through the locap REP trainging course.. They would cover all facts of their particular product, as well as cover alot of the laws pertaining to the use... Also if you carry anything with a TICKET GUARANTEE, be sure you UNDERSTAND what the guarantee is... Most people DONT, sure to advertise it, will get you plenty of customers, only to PISS them off later.. I dont care who the manufacturer is, or there Ticket guarantee, they ALL come down to one thing.. IF you get a TICKET, you have to send them PROOF you PAID that ticket, then they will REIMBURSE you for the ticket.. Well hell, everyone takes defferred so that it doesnt go on your record, and they wont pay deffered.. Its their way around paying the ticket..
I still run the Escort with Shifters, damn awsome radar/laser/detector/jammer...
I just started carrying their lines, and haven't been to training yet. I thought might as well ask you guys about it.
now, there's never a no ticket guarantee, may be I'm new to this, but I don't know if there was a no ticket guarantee campaign. even so I don't think it would be effective, considering that paying your ticket in court = guilty plea, ie: goes on record & u'r insurance increase.
I don't think any method is ever successful to avoid getting caught when breaking the law. but it doesn't hurt to have backup
yes some of the manufacturers offer a no ticket guarantee... but as i stated before, its a selling point, but a clear sham... because they know people wont just pay the ticket, and get reimbursed, thats just stupid, LOL...
As you probably have figured out, there is no money to be made in radar detector sales! Way too many on the net to be had cheaply....
A brick and morter store is better off selling Installed detectors, ones that have several pieces to be custom installed into the vehicle.. We used to do quite WELL with both K40 and Escort installed detectors.
Best detector on the market is the Valentine One made by Mike Valentine, one of the original owners and founders of Cincinnati Microwave, makers of the Escort. They run about $400 and the unit is actually a radar locator; it tells you if it's coming from the front, rear, or off to the side....and it keeps track of the number of signals being tracked. When you pass the grocery store with the automatic doors that always set your bird dog off, you'll notice one more signal on the counter showing you that Smoky is sitting in the parking lot taking your picture as well. My second choice would be the Escort.
I've never read a credible test review that show radar or laser jammers work to any effect. Save your money.
Radar detector detectors work off the fact that all modern radar detectors use superheterodyne technology within them. Simply put, the detector creates a frequency that it beats against the incoming radar signal to convert it to a signal that can be amplified and processed more accurately. Almost exactly like a "beat frequency oscillator" seen on older radios. That small signal, in a poorly shielded detector, can be detected by John Law if he has the right equipment to do so. If you are running a detector now you probably know how this works....and who is running a piece of crap detector...because their unit sets yours off until you get one half to a mile away from them. Spend the money on a "quiet" unit like an Escort or a Valentine, and just unplug the unit, to be safe, when first crossing into Canada at the border...where most of the detector- detectors are!
"Instant-on" is rarely the threat perceived by many, unless you're relying solely on a detector to save you. The only place to truly fear it is when you're the only car on the road, and you're not sure who's approaching you, or hiding in the weeds. Most of the time you'll get a good warning of instant-on when he's shooting the guy way ahead of you. If you're bopping along at a perfectly respectable 90 mph north-bound and didn't notice Smoky rolling south-bound, you've got no excuse for him noticing you first and irradiating your face. Most tickets get written for drivers not paying attention. A cranked stereo and high speed driving don't go well together; you'll lose critical seconds in clamping on the binders.
Speaking of paying attention.....many people get rolling along comfortably confident in the prowess of their bird dog and ignore the car behind them that they either merged in front of a night or didn't notice creeping up on them. The first clue is when the detector gets smoked off the windshield. The first principle of radar detectors is that they don't work if the cop doesn't have his radar on. The microwave outburst that woke you up was just the cop doing a speed verification to his speedo before he lights you up. It's really kind of embarrassing. Don't ask me how I know that.
Laser is strictly line-of-sight and won't reach over the hill the way radar will, and the cop has to be stationary to run it. Even the best detectors merely tell you to get your checkbook out for a legit laser tag. The best hope is that laser is mostly run in urban areas, often by cops out of the car on foot, and that you have a decent chance of picking up the signal of the guy in front of you getting tagged. If it's a dedicated shot at you and you only, you're toast.
A lot of areas are not running as much radar as they used to but, many are doing it increasingly at very low power. Especially the state troopers/patrols. That's not good because you get a weak signal and treat it casually, as if you've time for evaluation. The bad news is that, that is all the stronger it is going to get and he's close, very close...in fact, in the time it took to read this, you may be toast. My rule is to treat all signals as a full out assault on my wallet and act accordingly. I immediately slow down until I've identified the threat. (This is where the cheapies like the old "Long Range Super Snooper" will drive you nuts.....they'll set your bird dog off sporadically for miles and you'll think it's a low-powered bogey instead.) Just remember that the cop doesn't have to run his gun at full power to get you. If you go rolling by a darkened parking lot at three in the morning, on deserted streets, that little chirp is enough to get you, because he's only sitting a hundred yards away from you. Speed only on limited access highways and your life will be simpler and your driving record shorter.
I'm hesitant to mention it but, you can beat radar. You'll probably still get pulled over, but maybe only for a lecture. You have to have excellent reactions, a well-equipped car, and the willingness (and an appropriate situation) to pin the brakes to the floor. Don't do that, if you've just passed someone and pulled in in front of them; your trunk-mounted amp will end up in the backseat...along with their bumper. It helps if you're driving a light weight sports car with excellent brakes but it can be done even in a sedan with superior brakes....like most of the Nazi products have. The reason you can do so is that radar for speed measurement works on the Doppler principle. What is actually measured is the change in frequency of the returned radar signal. The best example of this, in the audio range, is the train whistle going by. The frequency, or the pitch of the sound to your ears, changes as the train approaches and then passes. We know it's one frequency or pitch so what changes? The sound waves are compressed as the train approaches your location, at normal frequency while alongside, and then expanded as the train passes going away. A Doppler shift is the measurement of that change in frequency, in this case, caused by the front of your moving car.
The reason you can beat the radar gun is that, if you decelerate fast enough, the radar gun will not lock in and give a speed reading. To get a speed reading it has to compare multiple Doppler shifts received and it compares them, very quickly, against each other and then averages them out for your speed resolution. If its first iteration shows a speed of advance of 90 mph and its next shows 80 mph, and so on down, it won't lock until the rate of decel decreases...hopefully, right around the speed limit. If you brake normally, it will have enough time to track your speed as it decreases. Needless to say, this is pinned against the seat belt deceleration sufficient to dislodge that Three Dog Night cassette from under the seat where it has been since 1978, or throw that cup of coffee your co-pilot just poured onto the windshield and back into her lap, about three times, and so it's a maneuver that you've considered, or rejected, long before you made the decision to speed. The cop is still going to pull you over because the radar unit has an audio output upon which he can listen to the Doppler shifts, and what he's hearing is going to sound like the Union Pacific Super Chief trying to avoid a train wreck.
I had a PA trooper nail me in my old RX-7 doing about 93 mph. He was quite gracious about it and informed me he was giving me a break and writing me for 63 in a 55....because if he wrote me for the 73 I was doing, it'd cost me $150. I neglected to inform him that I'd have like to have scrubbed more than the twenty I did off my speed before he got locked in and was quite happy with the "little" ticket. I had a county mounty shoot me from 500 yards away doing 60 in a 45 and he never did get lock. I got pulled over and complimented on my reaction time...but, "we both know what you were doing". In all honestly, it was in an area where I was anticipating a signal and had I been doing so much as touching the turn signal stalk, I'd have never beaten it.
If you're a casual observer of other laws than the speed limit, and you travel long distances on roads such as the Ohio Turnpike, there are some nice radio scanners that may happen to inadvertently pick up the police bend frequencies. Most states frown on having these devices in one's car which means you'll need to make room in the glove box to mount it....and shut it off if you get pulled over. You don't need the cop listening to his dispatcher in stereo. In Ohio, the troopers report location by mile marker and east or west-bound. A pocket notebook, attentive ears, and you can plot every speed Nazi across all of I-80. CB radios used to be good, and still may be in some parts of the country where the chatter isn't all BS, especially if you can find an old Bosch tri-band power antenna. You sacrifice a little performance, across the FM and CB bands particularly, but you only need one antenna.
The best advise I can give anyone using a radar detector is to drive the way you did before getting one; paranoid. And remember two things. It doesn't do any good if he's not shooting radar. And the cop will be where he's always at every morning, when you're driving your wife's car without the detector.
Around here they're useless. Areas where the cops have big budgets radar detectors become essentially useless. Our guys here have instant on radar guns that hit you multiple times within a second. IMO, the only useful things are radar and laser jammers. But radar jammers are epic felony level stuff, and laser jammers only work on lasers. And of course, none of it helps when they're just cruising up and down the highway with their planes and helicopters.
I dont agree. I live in sfl and My escort 9500 has save me many times over. Have avoided atleast 50 cops since i bought it last year. It is also updateable via the internet. They have an update each week which includes updates for the redlight and speed cams and also any known speed traps. IMO you cant live without one in sfl with all the damn cameras popping up.
I dont agree. I live in sfl and My escort 9500 has save me many times over. Have avoided atleast 50 cops since i bought it last year. It is also updateable via the internet. They have an update each week which includes updates for the redlight and speed cams and also any known speed traps. IMO you cant live without one in sfl with all the damn cameras popping up.
I second this statement. I also have the 9500 upgraded from the 995 upgraded from the 955 and I will continue to upgrade as better technology becomes available.
I believe you cant live without one but thats just my opinion.
I second this statement. I also have the 9500 upgraded from the 995 upgraded from the 955 and I will continue to upgrade as better technology becomes available.
I believe you cant live without one but thats just my opinion.
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He actually said on TV interview exactly that.
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