You're not being reasonable so I can only assume that I am once again bullying you and trying to start a fight with you and hurting your feelers.
My statement is truer than you will admit. What kind of percentage of today's population is tired of this shit? Its a pretty high number. They aren't listening anymore. The country is now completely divided.
Dude take it easy.
Just because a large percentage of people are apathetic and disengaged doesn't mean issues aren't important.
The birth thing is one of few things outsiders can get some teeth into because it spans decades and whomever wants to hide the truth hasn't been able to keep it all hidden
The reason it matters now is because if he can't prove he was born here then he cant be on the ballot in some states.
Perfectly legal issue. Not conspiracy.
Just because a large percentage of people spend all day playing Xbox and getting high doesn't mean my kids future is disposable
You never wanted to hear about this topic from the beginning.
How does time make it less important?
Breitbart was supposed to release info march 1st about Obama and his communist plans but the guy died night before releasing video.
Gee how convenient.
Several other anti admin people are supposedly in fear of their lives right now to.
Perhaps if so many were not asleep our government wouldn't be acting like they are
Joseph Goebbels, Nazi propaganda minister during World War II said: “It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion; truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
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Don't even try to bother to reason with him. He's one sided, and is only in it to "win" the argument. He's not going to let a little thing like "making sense" fuck up his argument. Think of it like the "Do not feed the animals" sign at the zoo. Once your attention is not on him, he'll crawl up in the corner and disappear.
People with any lick of sense can smell bullshit on this topic. Regardless if they're tired or not, they can tell he's full of it.
really? How does this make sense?
You might not like the point, but its certainly noteworthy.
People have stopped listening. That's it. Think about the rage we were all in when clinton had some knob-polishing. Now if something like this came up back then, people would have been really concerned, right? Now people have stopped listening.
Its something to consider and its certainly not something worth you guys mounting an attack.
Swanson...what a little girl you're being. Its hilarious. And what argument am I winning?
Just because a large percentage of people are apathetic and disengaged doesn't mean issues aren't important.
The birth thing is one of few things outsiders can get some teeth into because it spans decades and whomever wants to hide the truth hasn't been able to keep it all hidden
The reason it matters now is because if he can't prove he was born here then he cant be on the ballot in some states.
Perfectly legal issue. Not conspiracy.
Just because a large percentage of people spend all day playing Xbox and getting high doesn't mean my kids future is disposable
You never wanted to hear about this topic from the beginning.
How does time make it less important?
Breitbart was supposed to release info march 1st about Obama and his communist plans but the guy died night before releasing video.
Gee how convenient.
Several other anti admin people are supposedly in fear of their lives right now to.
Perhaps if so many were not asleep our government wouldn't be acting like they are
I am and have been taking it easy. I made a relatively small statement which I still think is true and yet your reaction is all classic JAX, there's really no reason for it.
Nothing bothers me. I'm not bothered. If there weren't people protesting and hooting and hollering before the first month was up, maybe there wouldn't be so many people willing to ignore it.
You might not like it, but that has rarely changed anything.
LOL sorry you just seemed a little bothered. If your not, that's good then cause your right, it aint going away.
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You're not being reasonable so I can only assume that I am once again bullying you and trying to start a fight with you and hurting your feelers.
My statement is truer than you will admit. What kind of percentage of today's population is tired of this shit? Its a pretty high number. They aren't listening anymore. The country is now completely divided.
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Originally Posted by AWC
......So no, if it were totally proved real, people would still claim its false. There's no winning so there's really no reason to keep yammering on about it in all its various guises. Fuck. Obama is a freakin' Russian Space Alien. Fuck it. What's the difference? It only has traction within those circles that have already made up their mind.
I am and have been taking it easy. I made a relatively small statement which I still think is true and yet your reaction is all classic JAX, there's really no reason for it.
I am not complaining about your opinion .
I understand that some people turn their ears off after they hear something over and over.
When I said "take it easy", I was referring to that little pop shot you took at me about "you bullying me" and me "getting twisted"
None of that was going on. But you had to say that just to take the shot at me.
This is how you get crap started
Joseph Goebbels, Nazi propaganda minister during World War II said: “It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion; truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
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Don't even try to bother to reason with him. He's one sided, and is only in it to "win" the argument. He's not going to let a little thing like "making sense" fuck up his argument. Think of it like the "Do not feed the animals" sign at the zoo. Once your attention is not on him, he'll crawl up in the corner and disappear.
People with any lick of sense can smell bullshit on this topic. Regardless if they're tired or not, they can tell he's (Liebama) full of it.
I got ya, yeah I can kinda see that. In the end here is all that matters for me with people that get mad when you question Obama's eligibility:
IF IT'S REAL PRODUCE THE CERTIFICATE
IF IT'S FAKE TIME TO GO!
Otherwise, like I said, it ain't go away unless we make him go away in NOV.
I got ya, yeah I can kinda see that. In the end here is all that matters for me with people that get mad when you question Obama's eligibility:
IF IT'S REAL PRODUCE THE CERTIFICATE
IF IT'S FAKE TIME TO GO!
Otherwise, like I said, it ain't go away unless we make him go away in NOV.
nice. I actually had thought you understood what I was saying. I had no argument except for that my statement be understood as my statement. Nothing added, no assumptions, just that people stopped listening and the reason why. You're right though, it is me being ugly to everybody, not just trying to get my point understood. Nice. I didn't even think my point was in any way against any common view, but why people stopped listening.
Who is actually arguing what? Doesn't matter, I guess, so long as I "win".
Nice move guys, really classy
Can I ask if someone ever did understand my point? Or were you not listening? Hmm....
I questioned you reasoning about not caring because it had been heard before.
Joseph Goebbels, Nazi propaganda minister during World War II said: “It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion; truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
The reason the parties have not bothered is easy .
Just what would happen if they busted Obama for fraud? It would open a huge can of worms.
I am really surprised to see people still talking left or right. As if the primary campaigning hasn't shown clear enough that politicians will lie to get votes.
GWB was no more conservative than my cat
Have either of you guys looked at the info presented?
The info presented from the 6 month investigation by the "cold case posse"
I think the real reason they don't want to bust Obama, that would mean he would have to step down as President. Most of you would rejoice, but wait, a bigger horror awaits. Biden as president would be enough to make me move to Australia or something like that.
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It would never happen because according to maxims of law, anything born from fraud is like it never existed (paraphrased of course).
If that were to happen, all of the banks and businesses that got money from TARP would be forced to give it back immediately, with interest, to the American people (along with instant reversal of every law Obama has "signed".. including Patriot Act renewal, etc etc etc). And we all know that big business is never one to give up money (or give the slaves back any lost freedoms) over a "little technicality" such as an illegitimate, illegal "President". Pshaw!
To answer my own question, I don't know if it's a fake. I tend to want three signatures on an important report involving a bad salad bar let alone a subject like this. Were three agencies to study and come up with the same findings, I would be right there with..some of you.
Like I said before; If he would have just whipped it out and said "here it is" the day America asked for it this would be a moot point. Instead it took three years and several moves by his administration to supress information before we got to see it, or what he claims is it.
I'm not falling for the "okie doke" and it scares me that some people won't even entertain the idea that it MIGHT be a fake and just accept it as fact.
And this is from people who won't even send me $5 for a bass knob unless I post pics with my username, grandmothers place of birth, and a 100 iTrader rating. SMH
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To answer my own question, I don't know if it's a fake. I tend to want three signatures on an important report involving a bad salad bar let alone a subject like this. Were three agencies to study and come up with the same findings, I would be right there with..some of you.
DR. Corsi investigated it and wrote his book last year. Week before it hit the shelves the fake birth cert came out. The week of the release Esquire magazine reported the book was being canned which was a lie and a attempt to stop sales. They had to later semi retract it and were threatened with a lawsuit.
if it was all just bs then why a) have your mouth piece rag of a magazine try to sabotage it and B) why release the fake BC then ?
Arpeio or whatever his name is supposedly has a pretty good size forensic team in ARIZONA
again I havnt had time to watch the video.
Now I also heard that GWB had someone go to Africa and they looked at the records of the supposed African birth. It was cut out .
I think someone else got wind of that and went to see and by that time Obama had put one of his relatives in charge and they would no longer allow it to be seen.
if there was no document then there would be no cut out to be seen.
if you think that its just a bunch of Conservative tea party people screaming about it then that is not true.
those are not 3 different agencies but its a good enough reason to want to know the truth.
This digitized document only made things look more suspect
Joseph Goebbels, Nazi propaganda minister during World War II said: “It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion; truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
I'm not falling for the "okie doke" and it scares me that some people won't even entertain the idea that it MIGHT be a fake and just accept it as fact.
And this is from people who won't even send me $5 for a bass knob unless I post pics with my username, grandmothers place of birth, and a 100 iTrader rating. SMH
thats funny but true...lol....
Joseph Goebbels, Nazi propaganda minister during World War II said: “It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion; truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
That's what is should be about. THE TRUTH. Not agendas and personal feelings. I'd stand down if he could produce a normal birth certificate just like anyone else would have to.
Why would I have to mount legal challenges when I can extract myself from what I need to without conflict? In addition, a legal challenge would place you into their jurisdiction, which is exactly what you are trying to avoid.
None of this would matter if you're certain.
The idea is to take a stand for something, anything. There's no sense in dilly-dallying back and forth with conspiracy theories when you could be making practical steps to prove your points. You know, action.
I hate to inject some sanity into you guys' fun, but don't you guys think that Obama opponents like the Koch brothers, with their billions, would've looked into this issue by now?
If they can't find anything, I don't think posting some youtube links or other useless conspiracy drivel is going to help your case.
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you just seemed a little bothered. If your not, that's good then cause your right, it aint going away. 
Maybe you aren't making your point clearly?
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