Joseph Goebbels, Nazi propaganda minister during World War II said: “It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion; truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
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I know nobody wants to comment on this thats fine.
But even if you are for all the stuff going on now it will not last forever. sooner or later what you like today will be different when a new politician gets in.
then when you suddenly feel the need to speak out you wont be able to without fear of being thrown in prison or worse.
I am really shocked just how far people are willing to let the gub do and not say a word.
Joseph Goebbels, Nazi propaganda minister during World War II said: “It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion; truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
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You butthurt no one responded to your troll?
are you seriously that immature that that is what you think the post is about?
my troll?
its real legislation its not some made up crap.
just like NDAA and the TSA
Joseph Goebbels, Nazi propaganda minister during World War II said: “It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion; truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
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Yes I think it's a troll.
You get upset when people respond. You get upset when people don't respond.
I would say by now that if the good people of DIYMA OT wanted to pay any attention to Alex Jones, that they would.
I could refute the conclusion you're drawing from the material posted, but I'm not going to bother because I know you don't care what rational people think.
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Alex Jones,he is trying to shift the blame away from Zionists and onto other people, mainly Americans, but also some British and Chinese. Most of the people in the "truth movement" are doing exactly as he does.
For a recent example, on 21 September 2007, Alex Jones tries to convince us that the Zionists are actually subservient to other people, such as the Queen of England
On 30 August 2007, he gives an emotional rant about how he is tired of these criminals ruling over us, but listen to who the criminals are:
Jones-30Aug2007.mp3 only 540 kbytes
Alex Jones
An honest investigator of crimes? Or a criminal trying to confuse us and protect his network?
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Mainstream sources have described Jones as a conservative[4][5][6][7] and as a right-wing conspiracy theorist.
Alexander Emerick "Alex" Jones (born February 11, 1974) is an American talk radio host, actor and filmmaker.
[SIZE5"]Power kills speakers ... not waveform shape. ~ werewolf[/SIZE]
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Alex Jones didnt write the story nor did he come up with the legislation.
You people who say others are coming to the wrong conclusions and all that, said the very same thing about the Patriot Act when it came out. It is well known and stated even by Obama that the Patriot Act applies to everyone.
this has nothing to do with Alex Jones. I only used those 2 links cause it was the fastest way to get the post up at the time.
Joseph Goebbels, Nazi propaganda minister during World War II said: “It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion; truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
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Originally Posted by Oliver
Alex Jones
An honest investigator of crimes? Or a criminal trying to confuse us and protect his network?
just what are you even quoting and what does AJ have to do with any of this other than being linked on his site?
Just what is his network?
"mainstream sources" ?! so we are supposed to take their view on things now when they are all the same run by the same and only report the same?
I see now we are going to focus on the messenger and not at all discuss the message.
Joseph Goebbels, Nazi propaganda minister during World War II said: “It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion; truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
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Let’s make one thing clear – the manual primarily deals with enemy combatants captured and detained in foreign prison camps run by the U.S. Military. However, another thing that is just as clear from reading the manual in full is the fact that it also applies to citizens detained within the United States, whether they be DCs (displaced citizens) or “civilian internees,” in other words citizens who are detained for, “security reasons, for protection, or because he or she committed an offense against the detaining power.”
Firstly, throughout the manual there are scores of references to how the U.S. Army would work together with the DHS, ICE and FEMA (page 24) to implement the policies “within U.S. territory” as part of “civil support operations” in the aftermath of “man-made disasters, accidents, terrorist attacks and incidents in the U.S. and its territories.” (page 38).
because terror attacks in the USA are just so prevelant.
man made disaster ? what the hell is that?
whats a civil internee camp? its a FEMA camp is what it is.
Joseph Goebbels, Nazi propaganda minister during World War II said: “It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion; truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
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Originally Posted by JAX
“security reasons, for protection, or because he or she committed an offense against the detaining power.”
If I were you, I would not say anything that they find offensive, thereby living out the rest of your life where U are , instead of a small cramped cell on Guantanamo Bay
[SIZE5"]Power kills speakers ... not waveform shape. ~ werewolf[/SIZE]
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Originally Posted by Oliver
If I were you, I would not say anything that they find offensive, thereby living out the rest of your life where U are , instead of a small cramped cell on Guantanamo Bay
At what point are you willing to say that gub has overstepped its authority ? It's purpose ?
If you watched "brave heart" then you recall the king mandating that all new wives first be screwed by the king or whomever within the system and then the new husband could have his new wife. The reason she was killed because she refused.
But in the movie it was "the law" because those in power decided it so.
Extreme example but , as long as we continue to just accept whatever is said and done behind closed doors the we deserve to get screwed.
Your statement sounds to me like I should just drop the shorts and bend over any time gub wishes.
Problem with that is you are asking me to lay down and absolutely guarantee my son will be a slave to this massive government that is a black hole .
I say if you wish yo be owned by the gub then you and others like it can move to one side of country.
The rest of us who wish to be free to live be on other side.
Joseph Goebbels, Nazi propaganda minister during World War II said: “It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion; truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
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It's a contingency plan. Many govt's have them for pretty much any scenario imaginable.
Let's say a large group of armed dissidents, like in the tens of thousands, decides to overthrow the govt and instate communism/nazism/purple spaghetti monster worship. Maybe they even infiltrate some military units and get access to some serious hardware.
Should the govt use the military to stop them? I sure as hell hope so. What do you do with tens of thousands of people and probably even more sympathizers? They're citizens so you can't deport em. You respect the rule of law so you can't kill em. Trying them all in court and punishing them that way would clog the legal system for years.
You do what pretty much every country does after a civil conflict, decide level of complicity, try the worst offenders in court/tribunals, hold and reeducate the bulk with the aim of releasing them, and cut the truly peripheral players loose asap.
Jax, most of the people here are free thinkers and not the sheep you're always accusing us of being. I think most of us have a line in the sand. It may not be where yours is although. How much energy do you want us to spend on things that aren't happening? Yes, the govt has a lot of fucking power. They've misused it in the past and will continue to misuse it. But a contingency plan for an unlikely event is what you want us to get up in arms about?
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Even more "proof"
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The Red Cross, United Nations, Department of Homeland Security, and FEMA have partnered with the US (and foreign) military to find a way to deal with Ron Paul supporters once and for all. It's called FM 3-39.40 Internment and Resettlement Operations in which the PTB plan to place OWS protesters, tax protesters, military protesters, NPR listeners, peace activists, the Dalai Lama, 9-11 investigators, the Kennedy family, and any person who wishes to overthrow a tyrannical government.
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BTW...this "recently leaked" document that has been supposedly hidden from view can be downloaded straight from the US Army training downloads center. It was made available in Feb. of 2010.
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BTW...this "recently leaked" document that has been supposedly hidden from view can be downloaded straight from the US Army training downloads center. It was made available in Feb. of 2010.
That is true. Was going to say that it's on a military website not just a talk show personality website.
It's ok though. They will only get me cause Alabama gets a waiver.
Joseph Goebbels, Nazi propaganda minister during World War II said: “It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion; truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
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So if there was a manual detailing how the Army corps of engineers helped build canals and dams by using explosives in the process, I'm sure that nut AJ would put out a blog saying "Leaked: The US Army has plans to use explosives on American soil".
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Nice.
Whatever.
Joseph Goebbels, Nazi propaganda minister during World War II said: “It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion; truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
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Originally Posted by BigAl205
BTW...this "recently leaked" document that has been supposedly hidden from view can be downloaded straight from the US Army training downloads center. It was made available in Feb. of 2010.
AL,
According official army response " it was available to look at but was not supposed to have been "
Words out of official army spokesperson
Fort Leonard Wood Public Affairs director Tiffany Wood has provided the first official response to the shocking U.S. Army document that outlines the implementation of re-education camps, admitting that the manual was “not intended for public release” and claiming that its provisions only apply outside the United States, a contention completely disproved by the language contained in the document itself.
After a reader sent Wood a link to where the manual, entitled FM 3-39.40 Internment and Resettlement Operations (PDF), can be downloaded on the army.mil website (but only by military employees with special credentials), Wood responded by stating that the document should not be in the public domain.
“The document was not intended for public release,” said Wood, adding, “Any other questions regarding the
document, you will need to file a FOIA request.”
This means that either hackers have obtained access to a secure military website and downloaded the manual or it was leaked by a military employee concerned about the content of the document.
Joseph Goebbels, Nazi propaganda minister during World War II said: “It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion; truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
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sure. whatever.
do you have your ticket to Builderberg 2012?
Joseph Goebbels, Nazi propaganda minister during World War II said: “It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion; truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
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Originally Posted by JAX
AL,
According official army response " it was available to look at but was not supposed to have been "
Words out of official army spokesperson
Fort Leonard Wood Public Affairs director Tiffany Wood has provided the first official response to the shocking U.S. Army document that outlines the implementation of re-education camps, admitting that the manual was “not intended for public release” and claiming that its provisions only apply outside the United States, a contention completely disproved by the language contained in the document itself.
After a reader sent Wood a link to where the manual, entitled FM 3-39.40 Internment and Resettlement Operations (PDF), can be downloaded on the army.mil website (but only by military employees with special credentials), Wood responded by stating that the document should not be in the public domain.
“The document was not intended for public release,” said Wood, adding, “Any other questions regarding the
document, you will need to file a FOIA request.”
I think it's funny how if you Google "Fort Leonard Wood Public Affairs director Tiffany Wood", you get a hundred conspiracy sites who just copy/paste the stuff without changing a word. I guess if 100 sites all say the same thing verbatim, it must be true https://www.google.com/#hl=en&gs_nf=...0&bih=578&bs=1
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This means that either hackers have obtained access to a secure military website and downloaded the manual or it was leaked by a military employee concerned about the content of the document.
It's so secretive, it's still there available for download
It's a subsection of the manual for military police operations
BTW...according to Alex Jones, we will be in the middle of WW3 by March 2012.