Re: Reason behind the buyouts years back on Car Audio
Its for the same reasoning they put the neon on the Fire and ice PA amps.All show and no go.Ever see one of those new stiffening caps.They have so many multi colored LED'S it looks like a carnival ride.My friend has one in his Yukon and tells me he still freaks out sometimes when he looks in his rear view thinking its the cops.
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Originally Posted by OldSchoolAudioandVideo
Just sux. WHY the hell they dont offer old school technology for a decent price today?
We get trash these days. I mean. seriously. WTF I want with leds all over my radio for?
Kenwood is famous for this.
WHY put a screen saver on a radio? WAY STUPID
It's really very simple, because its old technology.
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Why buy new old technology when you can have the same exact old technology from yesteryear on eBay? Sure, it may have problems, but according to the older is better philosophy, any halfway competent repair tech should be able to fix them. Of course, that assumes that they can be repaired because many things from yesteryear do not have a modern day equivalent substitute part without going through a major rebuild process. Plus, some things just don't have any replacement parts.
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Originally Posted by mires
The question has been answered about a dozen times now. There are still a ton of very high quality products out there. You just have to pay for it.
Times have changed man. Time to get over it.
i would argue that the items many of us hold dear to our hearts from the old days were more expensive than some of the newer amps. anyone know what a rockford fosgate 650 or a soundstream 10.0 or audio art 100hc went for?
i think we, i know i am guilty, compare what we can get some of the old ones for now and not take into consideration how much they cost 10-20 years ago.
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i would argue that the items many of us hold dear to our hearts from the old days were more expensive than some of the newer amps. anyone know what a rockford fosgate 650 or a soundstream 10.0 or audio art 100hc went for?
i think we, i know i am guilty, compare what we can get some of the old ones for now and not take into consideration how much they cost 10-20 years ago.
I wan't really arguing that equipment is more expensive now than it was then. Just that you do have to pay for it. I LOVE old school gear and personally think it's awesome that I can still get ahold of a lot of it from great people here on DIYMA and that one auction site. Especially since even if I were old enough at the time, I never could have afforded that stuff.
I just get tired of people bitching that ALL we have available is junk. It simply isn't true. Sure, a lot of very reputable companies that made awesome products have sold out, but there is still plenty of quality gear available.
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Originally Posted by mires
I wan't really arguing that equipment is more expensive now than it was then. Just that you do have to pay for it. I LOVE old school gear and personally think it's awesome that I can still get ahold of a lot of it from great people here on DIYMA and that one auction site. Especially since even if I were old enough at the time, I never could have afforded that stuff.
I just get tired of people bitching that ALL we have available is junk. It simply isn't true. Sure, a lot of very reputable companies that made awesome products have sold out, but there is still plenty of quality gear available.
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i agree the quality is still available from products made today, but why buy it when we can get all the high dollar toys we could not buy in our younger years.
one major place in car audio that i think one of the biggest improvements have been with subwoofers. i think they are cheaper and better than what was available 10 years ago. exceptions there are but overall subs like the idq make it affordable for anyone to have awesome sound
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i agree the quality is still available from products made today, but why buy it when we can get all the high dollar toys we could not buy in our younger years.
one major place in car audio that i think one of the biggest improvements have been with subwoofers. i think they are cheaper and better than what was available 10 years ago. exceptions there are but overall subs like the idq make it affordable for anyone to have awesome sound
Agreed. I'm running a cd8443, Alpine V12 amps from '99 and Boston Acoustic 8.5's. All stuff I was drooling over when they came out but couldn't afford. The only thing that won't be old school is my front stage. Unless I can find a NIB BA 6.53x set.
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Originally Posted by ChrisB
Of course, that assumes that they can be repaired because many things from yesteryear do not have a modern day equivalent substitute part without going through a major rebuild process. Plus, some things just don't have any replacement parts.
thats why i horded parts when they were going out of production. been doing that for about 13 years now, and if i see a part that is available that is getting scarce, i'll buy a few hundred, or, buy them all. even now for modern day amps, if i need parts for something that i dont have in stock, but need 10, i'll order 50 anyway.
there are only a few parts that i have ran out of that are used in car amplifiers, that are not available anymore.
unfortunately, there are a lot of parts i have ran out of for vintage head units though. very soon, i will have to stop taking Alpine 7909's in for repair.
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i agree the quality is still available from products made today,
sort of... i am still finding cheap Chinese capacitors in expensive high end stuff made today. it's sad.
from another forum, i repaired a amp today that is a very highly regarded SPL amp... what i found, is just another off-the-shelf board from the same manufacturer that makes a lot of the Hifonics boards. different heat sink, but the same amp inside. ( when i refer to "boards" i am not talking about just the printed circuit board... im talking about the whole guts of the amp. )
while the hard parts like transistors and IC's have improved greatly since the old days, not everything has. build quality standard has certainly gone down on average.
however, a new school high end amp, with a few cap and parts changes, are pretty awesome. that, i will use... and i do. but still like my old school stuff too.
project for this morning, is completing the modifications to a old school Planet Audio Big Bang BB150.2. ( yup, made in the USA old school one, not the new junk ) this is a no expense spared SQ and power upgrade that i am going to use in one of my vehicles. should turn out nice.
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Originally Posted by OldSchoolAudioandVideo
So we all know the quality of car audio has changed now for about 10 years give or take depending on the company.
I just never found out why all the big names sold out to shit companies.
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It is the ability to link the companies track record to their shitty products
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I dont understand why these companies dont atleast offer us what was SQ back then for a decent price now.
Instead what I see is low in even compared to 1990's yet the prices are still equal to what we paid back then. It doesnt make sense.
It might not make cents, but it definately makes $$$$
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Sure you get allot more watts but dam. THE SQ seems to be lacking and some of the parts seem to die quicker. Namely the caps! And we still get shit op amps. Why?
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Originally Posted by daveds50
unfortunately, there are a lot of parts i have ran out of for vintage head units though. very soon, i will have to stop taking Alpine 7909's in for repair.
start charging more and the supply will last longer, lol
and thank you for all your help to me in the past as well
hah ha ! yeah... then i would not be almost out of IRFZ44N transistors that i ordered 300 of them two weeks ago...
bi-weekly huge parts order being made right now.
The original IRFZ44 was a much better FET handled I'm thinking 50 amps constant of pulse power where the Z44N handles a little less, they always take away the good stuff
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