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I like it a Conspiracy Theory that actually isn't one, but infact highly public knowledge. It's no real secret that the CIA along with the Brits smuggled cash and weapons through to the Afghans when they were fighting the Soviets. They also had many ex SF troops in the country teaching them how to fight.

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I like it a Conspiracy Theory that actually isn't one, but infact highly public knowledge. It's no real secret that the CIA along with the Brits smuggled cash and weapons through to the Afghans when they were fighting the Soviets. They also had many ex SF troops in the country teaching them how to fight.

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I know this is back on topic and not about conspiracies but how many people remember the $200 hammer or whatever stupid outrageous amount the gov spent on a hammer? Same with a bunch of stuff but it was years ago. Now you can't tell me the us gov won't spend whatever they want with no regard to cost wether its real or inflated.

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I know this is back on topic and not about conspiracies but how many people remember the $200 hammer or whatever stupid outrageous amount the gov spent on a hammer? Same with a bunch of stuff but it was years ago. Now you can't tell me the us gov won't spend whatever they want with no regard to cost wether its real or inflated.

If you don't think that excessive spending is about conspiracy I don't know what to say. Where do you think all the extra money goes?

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Looking to spur job growth in the United states through increased trade with India, President Barack Obama’s state visit to India yielded over $14.9 billion in business deals. Obama said the U.S.-India relationship has the potential to define the 21st century.
what the hell does he think he is doing !
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Do you realize how powerful India really is?

Even they don't know how powerful they are. ~1/6th of the entire population of the world lives there.

India is producing a decent computer for the masses for the cost of ~$100! Good luck, everybody else!

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This helps explain it, from back in '09

India important to US interests: Asia Society study

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Come on guys stop the madness. When any US President travels the military is on high alert....and the Secret Service ramps it up BIG time for these type trips. Nevertheless, have we forgot where India is in the World? Have we forgot what is going on NorthWest of India? The DAMN Ships and subs are already there! Tons of them! So please stop the B.S.


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what the hell does he think he is doing !
Come on man...are you Obama hating or what? India's is emerging and that has been going on for awhile now...waaayy before he got into office. Now, India wants to modernize and buy American services and products. In some area's they they need outside resources and business. This will in effect create jobs here in the US...the man HAD to make this trip at some point during the four years.

I really don't see the point in the post...the trip had to get done rather it was Obama, Bush, or McCain, etc.....this is not a Democrat or Republican thing but a USA - India relationship that has to be re-established....We need to get some of the jobs back!

Good read here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...110603920.html

Things are such that we can now make some money off of India if we play our cards right...we must keep good relations with India.

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Even they don't know how powerful they are. ~1/6th of the entire population of the world lives there.

India is producing a decent computer for the masses for the cost of ~$100! Good luck, everybody else!
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You need the wheels redone in polka dots and I'm down for one !

Let's see the tweeters on the A-pillars and the sub in back . . .
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If nobody got a chance to see it, Both Jon Stewart and Steven Colbert hit this topic hard. It was fun to watch Glenn Beck get caught double-speaking as well.

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If nobody got a chance to see it, Both Jon Stewart and Steven Colbert hit this topic hard. It was fun to watch Glenn Beck get caught double-speaking as well.
Double-speaking on what? I'd be interested to hear.

Oh, and since you brought up Beck: George Soros... hero or villain?

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Double speak because he was on his radio show stating basic information as hard facts, then a couple hours later he said those same words on his tv show but said them in a way that removed himself from the issue.

Feel free to watch, not only was in entertaining, it was educational as to how dumb a move it really was.

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liars are everywhere. our elected officials do it every day.

funny the only ones who get ridiculed are the conservatives and the talk radio guys.

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George Bush- most vacationing president ever.

No one seems to be asking if Bush did it differenlty/smaller /cheaoer. Guess what - HE DID THE EXACT SAME THING because the secret service decides.

Now why do you suppose people jump all over Obama on this but not Bush or Clinton? Hmm. WHat is the major distinguishing characteristic between the three guys? Obama's policies are no more liberal (if you live in the actual world and not a Fox News paranoid fantasy) than Clinton's were. Now let me think...

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they don't like to pay for the military but they don't mind the escorts.

and, they have no trouble with using US military personnel/equipment to transport huge numbers of party people to destinations of merit across the globe...

I find it funny Obama hasn't had the envoy land in Dubai, now that's a fun city...
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The local newscast keeps saying obama is there to get back American jobs. I find this amusing. How exactly do you get back American jobs? Do you beg? Do you plead? Do you bribe?

How exactly do you convince another country to give up it's profit and livelyhood?


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George Bush- most vacationing president ever.

No one seems to be asking if Bush did it differenlty/smaller /cheaoer. Guess what - HE DID THE EXACT SAME THING because the secret service decides.

Now why do you suppose people jump all over Obama on this but not Bush or Clinton? Hmm. WHat is the major distinguishing characteristic between the three guys? Obama's policies are no more liberal (if you live in the actual world and not a Fox News paranoid fantasy) than Clinton's were. Now let me think...

I dont recall 3000 press and other media people going on vacation with Bush. I doubt it very seriously

As for being less liberal..your kidding right? he makes Clinton look like Reagan.

its not some fantasy world that is on Fox news. its real life in the real world I live in.

Its real things that are happening in part because of the asshats like Pelosi and Reed and Barney Frank.

Why is it if someone doesnt agree with something it must be because of Fox News or some talk radio host?

Are you implying that people only say crap about Obama cause he is black? is that what your insinuating?...well. he is just as white as me or shall I say I am no more white than him...

you must be related to Bassfromspace......

everthing has to be race related with some people.

I wouldnt like this if he were 100% white or if it were that dried up McCain or anyone else.


I never said it wasnt something that might need to be done. I question the overspending being done to do the trip.

seems like every Obama trip has to be expensive.

so yeah...I would rather have someone going home to his ranch in Texas than on vacation any day.

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our city has asked for money to install a sidewalk where the elementary is located. parents are hesitant to allow their little ones to walk to school due to there being no sidewalk. if we get sidewalk, it's going to cost $1,000,000 for just 1,200ft. the feds would be involved, so the cost is considerably more
than it should be due to all the federal employees being involved in the project.

obama isn't the only one who blows our dough. all of the federal government over pays on projects. they had a road construction project here that was to last the summer. well, it lasted three years. twice they had to redo their mistakes and now part of the project has been abandoned.

they had a sign up that read, "your tax dollars at work." another sign just below it said something like, "project to completed summer of 2007." and, here it was 2010.
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Oh how he doth protest too much.

You don't recall? Seems like? Now there's a journalistic standard that can Fox aspire to.

Stick with facts. What does the non-partisan OMB say the cost of "Obamacare" will be to the American taxpayer? Don't know do you? ZERO.

How are taxes now compared to under GW Bush? Flat to slightly lower.

What contributed to the deficit more, all Obama actions or the War in Iraq? Iraq.

What did the bank bailout cost the taxpayer, net? Negative, a small gain on it overall.

It's not just the color of his skin. It's also that he SOUNDS like the Harvard constitutional lawyer he is. Bush had the most elite education available on the planet, but sounded like a hick, so people could "relate" to him. Clinton too, and he could Bubba it up just as well, although he was Yale/Oxford.

Obama is just so alien to conservative white people, and most seem to want a President that makes them feel good about themselves (narcissist) as opposed to actually doing a good job.

In fact, Obamacare is almost EXACTLY what REPUBLICAN Bob Dole proposed in the 90's.

So, how about one objective example of Obama's "socialist" policies?

And the trip to India is a major DIPLOMATIC trip, not a vacation.

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I dont recall 3000 press and other media people going on vacation with Bush. I doubt it very seriously

As for being less liberal..your kidding right? he makes Clinton look like Reagan.

its not some fantasy world that is on Fox news. its real life in the real world I live in.

Its real things that are happening in part because of the asshats like Pelosi and Reed and Barney Frank.

Why is it if someone doesnt agree with something it must be because of Fox News or some talk radio host?

Are you implying that people only say crap about Obama cause he is black? is that what your insinuating?...well. he is just as white as me or shall I say I am no more white than him...

you must be related to Bassfromspace......

everthing has to be race related with some people.

I wouldnt like this if he were 100% white or if it were that dried up McCain or anyone else.


I never said it wasnt something that might need to be done. I question the overspending being done to do the trip.

seems like every Obama trip has to be expensive.

so yeah...I would rather have someone going home to his ranch in Texas than on vacation any day.
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Obama care is already costing me money. my insurance coverage has gone up and my coverage has gone down. Next year I will be taxed on my insurance premium as though its cash in my pocket when its not.

Look at any country who has the same type of free giveaways to the people and see how well it has worked out for them. They try it till they are nearly bankrupt and then they have to take it away in the end because it is not sustainable.

this is no different.

you have to have money to pay for the stuff and it comes from the rest of us who put into the system. there is no such thing as free. I will pay for mine and I will pay for the crackhead down the street. simple as that.

bank bailouts not costing? thats funny..

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We do it in Canada and it works well. I've never had a problem getting the care that I actually need. Sure the elective shit gets put off but what matters is the stuff that matters is done, and done well.

Our economy has been very stable despite the U.S. economy tanking. You have to have an entire system in place, you can't just pick and choose.

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you have to have money to pay for the stuff and it comes from the rest of us who put into the system. there is no such thing as free. I will pay for mine and I will pay for the crackhead down the street. simple as that.
and god forbid you need a procedure that is more than you can afford, you will get it and guess what, you will be that crackhead. But you also won't have to worry about being kept alive simply because you can't afford it. It works both ways.
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ok so it works you say in canada....it worked for a while in England too...and now they are having to stop giving away freebies .

something like 75% of the people are on welfare over there or some crazy amount of people cause its easier to sit on their butt and get stuff for free than it is to work.

not going to sit here and try to argue with you Boosted about your stupid health system.


problem here is there are too many people that think they should get something and do nothing to earn it wether they are able or not.

the free stuff should be for the people that are not able to work...if you can work you should and if you cant afford it then there should be a support for that.

but sitting around all day and not working then expecting help for your 5 illegitimate kids is bs.



unless your going to show me something that tells me the majority of people in Canada are fine and happy with their healthcare then it really doesnt convince me that its just as rosey as you say.

You can tell me its been fine for you and I can find someone else who has a nightmare story. I have seen enough people testify that they had problems for me not to just accept it at face value.

when it comes to this healthcare thing its not even worth getting into. whatever may be working for you in Canada is one thing...but that doesnt mean it will work here or anywhere else.

I have said time and again we are talking about the US gov which is full of waste and idiots. so I doubt this will work like its supposed to at all.

in Louisiana I cant be turned down if I need medical attention.

show me where rationing is a good thing when it comes to the government. if the government wants to start spending less so there is more for these things then I might think about it.

none of this crap in the US is about the people. its about someone getting paid.

I live in a crooked ass state. I know all to well what people with money and Power do with it

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Furthermore... The economy improving is a fact, it has been measured and is not subjective.
The mirage is the belief that this can't be true. It is. America is starting to come around

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Obama care is already costing me money. my insurance coverage has gone up and my coverage has gone down. Next year I will be taxed on my insurance premium as though its cash in my pocket when its not.

Look at any country who has the same type of free giveaways to the people and see how well it has worked out for them. They try it till they are nearly bankrupt and then they have to take it away in the end because it is not sustainable.

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ok so it works you say in canada....it worked for a while in England too...and now they are having to stop giving away freebies .

something like 75% of the people are on welfare over there or some crazy amount of people cause its easier to sit on their butt and get stuff for free than it is to work.

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Works quite well here, infact the GFC had barely any impact un employment had a very short term rise of probably no more then 1% and there was a slowing in the economy for a roughly 3-6 month period but it's back to business as usual and for the most part it is "What GFC?". Our housing market is incredibly stable infact we had our worst drop in housing prices in 40 years, the drop a massive 3% on average!!!! We also have a comprehensive social services system yet typically unemplyment stays around 5% and has actually declined since the introduction of social security many years ago, and for Australia 5% is roughly our happy spot as far as unemployment goes any less and labor shortages occur which is more harmful to the economy.

The UK problem isn't a result of free healthcare or even social security, they have been on a downward spiral since WWII and unfortunately it's not a quick fix.

Last I checked most of Europe has Universal Healthcare as well and from all the reports there standard of living, education, health and so on is looking alot better then the US has in the last 30 odd years.

Gradually learning to do more and more with less and less until I can do everything with nothing.
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