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Arg! 80prs or DRZ9255!?

12K views 22 replies 11 participants last post by  Got-Four-Eights  
#1 ·
I've narrowed it down to these two with the Clarion 702 a distant 3rd. Although people around here keep telling me to get a Kenwood. Are they off their rocker or does Kenwood have a unit worthy of this group?

I know the 9255 is gangster. I'm also really liking the 80prs though. I don't play mp3 CD's so that's not an issue. Although I do use my iPod quite a bit. BT would be really nice to have, but I can live without it.

Is there such a thing as "too much HU?" I don't think I want to go back to 3 way active. Although, if I got the Clarion, I'd feel like I had to. Lol. I don't compete in SQ (yet?).

Pros? Cons? What questions should I be asking myself? Totally open to other suggestions. I f'n HATE shopping for HU's because there's just way too many damn models.
 
#4 ·
Bikinpunk measured them to be about the same. I believe the 9255 will have a little more voltage on the outputs if thats important to you...I dont think it will be. There's no reason to go with the DRZ-9255 if you wont run 3 way active and can live with a little less EQ and a few crossover options. The 80PRS is a nice unit with very good sound and alot of great features that the DRZ doesnt have - 2 usb inputs are clutch!, iPhone/iPod integration which works well, front aux input, etc. and still has plenty of processing power all at less than half the cost. The DRZ is a little higher quality, noticeable in the materials of the faceplate and button controls, but not a deal breaker. Once I get my 80PRS connected up active to my setup Im building, I'll have more to report on the differences I find in the quality. Feature wise though, it's fantastic. I think you'd be very happy with the 80PRS
 
#5 ·
The 80PRS is a nice unit with very good sound and alot of great features that the DRZ doesnt have - 2 usb inputs are clutch!, iPhone/iPod integration which works well, front aux input, etc. and still has plenty of processing power all at less than half the cost.
DRZ9255 owner never think about converted files IMHO.

The DRZ is a little higher quality, noticeable in the materials of the faceplate and button controls, but not a deal breaker. Once I get my 80PRS connected up active to my setup Im building, I'll have more to report on the differences I find in the quality. Feature wise though, it's fantastic. I think you'd be very happy with the 80PRS
I know many systems built-in DRZ9255 sounding cool. IMHO it's like ODR and F#1 level.
 
#8 ·
I have owned a DRZ for a little over a year now to me it is very a very average sq deck as far as high-end decks go. Does it sound better than a $300 pioneer? Yes of course but not by as much as you would expect. I'm getting my DRX back from repair this week it is going back in. (can't wait) Now that deck is head and shoulders above anything else I have ever heard, and I am willing to give up the DRZ features for the pure SQ bliss. But thats me.
 
#9 ·
My DRZ blew away my Alpine 9835 which was an awesome deck. I have also thought about going to an 80PRS but I feel like I will be stepping down. I would like to get impressions from others who have done the swap from a drz9255 to an 80prs....
 
#10 ·
DRZ would be steak and the 80prs would be like a thrown up jack in the box burger after someone else threw it ate it and threw it up.

honestly i have not used the 80prs but owned the drz9255 for the longest time and i cant imagine anything better. well yes i can, a black faceplate on it and a non cheap looking trim ring....
 
#11 · (Edited)
Seriously, where do you guys get these ideas the 80prs is so horrible? Aesthetically, it's hideous. But I own it and have tested it. It tests just as well as any other high end deck electronically. Buy based on features such as DSP, iPod. Bluetooth, etc and/or design style. But don't bother wasting your time comparing sonics as if there was really any audible difference (other than maybe the way the pre out voltage is incremented). If you know how to tune, ANY minute differences can be overcome (not that there are in reality anyway). Sweating indistinguishable differences is a waste of time.

I've got the data comparing it directly to the p99. Id be happy to post it for anyone who doubts what I say or just wants to see it. Trust me, if it were bad I wouldn't have removed the p99 and replaced it with the 80prs/mosconi DSP combo. ;)


Edit:
I'll go ahead and post up the comparison data between the P99 & 80PRS. The differences are negligible... so much so, that I might as well not even acknowledge them. both measure at the bounds of my m-audio 2496 soundcard (used by many as 'high end' soundcard).
The DRZ has been measured by myself but I don't have the data on this PC to compare to. Bottom line is it measured beyond the bounds of my sound card, too, which is higher than any human is able to detect. Bottom line: if you lose a sound quality competition, it's not the fault of the headunit. ;)
So, again, purchase based on features and/or personal taste. Not on perceived or proposed sonic detail. Any differences otherwise are negligible and certainly not dominant factors in why you hear what you hear (though, your brain probably is).

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#15 ·
I honestly think the 80PRS looks nice.. I got the 9400bt for my girls car and kinda like it. I really want to make the swap to the 80prs with a Mosconi 6to8 or Zapco DP6.... I think with this combo I wont be dissappointed.. I heard the auto tuner on the 80PRS works well?
 
#17 ·
The past and current Pioneer decks are the Cat's Meow in terms of SQ on a budget.....the 80PRS rules the current $300 deck price point. Given the data that guys like Erin has posted on how it measures very close to the P99 makes it a no brainer if you don't plan to run a 4-way system.


Myself, I just sold my 800PRS to pick up a DRZ9255 because I am running a 4-way system and have always wanted to try one. At some point I will either use the optical out and get the Mosconi 6to8 unit or I will go for the P99. I am sure once I get bored I will want more control and also....at some point I plan to "finally" join the digital age and get my music onto a harddrive....so the P99 would be a great option for that.
 
#19 ·
I was about to get the 80PRS but cancel my order, i've planned to run it active (sub+midbass+wideband) but realise the limit of the xover from the manual... Is the manual right, mid LPF and hi HPF are can't go beyond 1.25kHz? Also it look like the hi HPF slope can't be set to off so using the amp onboard XO is also impossible...
 
#21 ·
For anyone that wants a reference standard for Bikinpunk's test results, below is a perfect RMAA summary result for a CD/USB file (ie 16bit/44.1kHz). That is the digital resolution limit for that format and the device's digital to analog stage can never improve on it, only equal them. These are the EXACT same results you would get if you were testing ANY CD digital output.

(Erin, dunno if you know this but you can include that chart in your test by analyzing the test file as if it were a recorded test track to be analyzed)

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