Sorry Mic,
I forgot to post the link to the store if your interested. They have been great to deal with in the past....
C-dsp conversion-$1270 minus shipping) HELIX C DSP Digital Sound Processor
Thanks for the options. Im looking at options and hoping to find one under retail.
US Release date is end of August for the P-DSP
late Sept/Early Oct for the C-Dsp
2010 MECA Extreme World champion,
2005 IASCA World Champion Pro 600+
2010 MECA Mike Baylor Sportsmanship Award
2011 MECA SQL Spirit Award
2012 MECA SQL Judge of The Year
2012 IASCA FINALS SQ/INSTALL Judge
2012 USACi Japan Finals Judge
Thanks for the options. Im looking at options and hoping to find one under retail.
US Release date is end of August for the P-DSP
late Sept/Early Oct for the C-Dsp
As am I...My local shop's price is the same (little less actually).
Obviously you and I have different needs for processing.... Me= weekend warrior....You= extreme competitor
So I will likely be fine with the P-dsp.....If you go the Helix route will you wait for the C-DSP? Just curious what people are thinking between the two? I am just not sure I need the C-dsp for what I have and do.
P-DSP does more than most processors available.
Ive won 2 Championships with an H700---so Id be fine w the Pdsp for now.
C-DSP maybe for next season. C adds more inputs and a little bit more control but bascially everything else is the same
2010 MECA Extreme World champion,
2005 IASCA World Champion Pro 600+
2010 MECA Mike Baylor Sportsmanship Award
2011 MECA SQL Spirit Award
2012 MECA SQL Judge of The Year
2012 IASCA FINALS SQ/INSTALL Judge
2012 USACi Japan Finals Judge
That´s what ATF states: "Compatible with the HELIX Optical & Bluetooth Interface, which will soon go on the market – this makes it possible to operate the system using a Smartphone and to configure it with a PC"
Well, I will believe it when I have my phone in hands controlling one of the units.
But IF they´ll manage that to run- one ov the greatest inventions for a long time. No need for a second Display/knob to install..."cool"...maybe remote control function on shows?
Sorry Mic,
I forgot to post the link to the store if your interested. They have been great to deal with in the past....
C-dsp conversion-$1270 minus shipping) HELIX C DSP Digital Sound Processor
I have a couple of questions for the guy who has used these units.
First on the eq. In my 2 way I have the mids bandpassed from 50-2khz. I would typically eq each driver an octave above and below this range. So with the 30 bands that I get on each driver, I would use the eq across say 8 ocataves which is roughly 8 oct's and hence 24 bands. The top six bands on the eq would just be attenuated to the max.
It seems that there is a second level on the eq where I can go back and fine tune at 1/12-1/24 oct level on different q's. Is this in addition to the 30 bands above or is it an either or case?
Time alginment is in 7mm increments, thats 0.02ms, 0.27" .
What about xover points and slopes? It would take a while for the ears and mind to settle in at tuning at these levels. Tweaking with this would be a great ride though.
Just based on the specs and the users feedback these units look like a cut above everything in its class. I think a lot of competitors may switch to these units.
HU : Pioneer p-80rsII DSP Bit Ten Mid Bass : Polk SR 6500 Tweets : Scan-Speak Illuminator Sub : MM 2124 4 Ch Genesis Profile Four Ultra Mono : Genesis DM
I have a couple of questions for the guy who has used these units.
First on the eq. In my 2 way I have the mids bandpassed from 50-2khz. I would typically eq each driver an octave above and below this range. So with the 30 bands that I get on each driver, I would use the eq across say 8 ocataves which is roughly 8 oct's and hence 24 bands. The top six bands on the eq would just be attenuated to the max.
It seems that there is a second level on the eq where I can go back and fine tune at 1/12-1/24 oct level on different q's. Is this in addition to the 30 bands above or is it an either or case?
Time alginment is in 7mm increments, thats 0.02ms, 0.27" .
What about xover points and slopes? It would take a while for the ears and mind to settle in at tuning at these levels. Tweaking with this would be a great ride though.
Just based on the specs and the users feedback these units look like a cut above everything in its class. I think a lot of competitors may switch to these units.
EQ is 30 band graphic with parametric adjustment. you can adjust the Q of the band to make it wider or shallower.
you can also adjust the frequency to the exact number you need.
Say you normally use a graphic and pick 1.6khz to cut...you can go in and adjust it to be 1.7 or 1.8 with a very Narrow Q. you can go down to 1580 or 1840hz
or you can widen the Q so you also cut the neighboring frequencies. Q is adjustable between .05 to 15
you get 6db of boost and -15 of cut.
Time alignment is adjustable in .2ms. Up to 10.4ms of delay!!! or 144.3inches or 353.3cm. 0-180 phase on all outputs but sub
Sub has 0-360 degree phase change in 22.5degrees---very helpful for sub integration/transition w midbass
Crossover adjustable anywhere between 20hz and 20,480hz. with different filter type and slope options. you can also link and unlink channels etc...
2010 MECA Extreme World champion,
2005 IASCA World Champion Pro 600+
2010 MECA Mike Baylor Sportsmanship Award
2011 MECA SQL Spirit Award
2012 MECA SQL Judge of The Year
2012 IASCA FINALS SQ/INSTALL Judge
2012 USACi Japan Finals Judge
Sorry Mic,
I forgot to post the link to the store if your interested. They have been great to deal with in the past....
C-dsp conversion-$1270 minus shipping) HELIX C DSP Digital Sound Processor
I'm not a helix dealer but could potentially (I don't want too and don't message me about these) get them to America for roughly $400 and $700 plus delivery respectably.
(P-dsp is available now, c-dsp hopefully in the next week or so.)
Am really not interested in doing it though as it's difficult to do as you guys don't have to pay VAT on them.
Saying this though if somebody wants a C-dsp for that price + 20% tax, then I'm coming back to America in the middle of August so wouldn't mind bringing one with me, if somebody buys it and allows me to put it on my test bench for a couple of weeks first :P (against a pxa-h800)
Last edited by senior800; 07-21-2011 at 07:31 AM..
EQ is 30 band graphic with parametric adjustment. you can adjust the Q of the band to make it wider or shallower.
you can also adjust the frequency to the exact number you need.
Say you normally use a graphic and pick 1.6khz to cut...you can go in and adjust it to be 1.7 or 1.8 with a very Narrow Q. you can go down to 1580 or 1840hz
or you can widen the Q so you also cut the neighboring frequencies. Q is adjustable between .05 to 15
you get 6db of boost and -15 of cut.
Time alignment is adjustable in .2ms. Up to 10.4ms of delay!!! or 144.3inches or 353.3cm. 0-180 phase on all outputs but sub
Sub has 0-360 degree phase change in 22.5degrees---very helpful for sub integration/transition w midbass
Crossover adjustable anywhere between 20hz and 20,480hz. with different filter type and slope options. you can also link and unlink channels etc...
The eq bit makes sense now. Thanks Mic. Wow!! The span of control and the and the accuracy with which you can set things, is amazing on this unit.
HU : Pioneer p-80rsII DSP Bit Ten Mid Bass : Polk SR 6500 Tweets : Scan-Speak Illuminator Sub : MM 2124 4 Ch Genesis Profile Four Ultra Mono : Genesis DM
I already gave my shop a deposit for one...He is AGRESSIVELY ON THE HUNT!
Although it doesnt really matter to me now.....Driving home this afternoon my truck caught on fire and melted to the ground Gonna have to start all over...... Its been a rough frigging month!
got my helix dsp 2 days ago:
Setup: Alpine 9855 digital @ Helix P-DSP
Micro Precision Serie 7 MK III @ Arc Audio 2075se
Andrian Audio 165g @ Zapco c2k 6.0x
Atomic Apocalypse @ Zapco c2k 9.0
its amazing, used the bitone and the intern dsp of the zapco ref dc 1000.4
both sucks againt the Helix DSP.
no problems, no whirring, hope its the right word
never wanna have any other DSP! if you can get one, buy it
I already gave my shop a deposit for one...He is AGRESSIVELY ON THE HUNT!
Although it doesnt really matter to me now.....Driving home this afternoon my truck caught on fire and melted to the ground Gonna have to start all over...... Its been a rough frigging month!
Off Topic, but HOLY SHIT!!! What the hell happened to your truck?!
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