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The all new Mosconi 8to12 has been announced!

There will be two models:

8to12 PRO
8to12 Aerospace

They will be listed at $999 and $1399, respectively.

Yesterday, the Aerospace won a prestige Eisa award for this year.

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Oh snap!!!!
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Mosconi Releases New DSP Next Month, Wins EISA Award | ceoutlook.com

That's all I can find so far. There's a little blurb on their Facebook page from a few months ago, but it doesn't say much more.
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Damn 120db crossover... That's excessive...

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Damn 120db crossover... That's excessive...
Yeah, it takes a crossover slope and turns it into a brick wall.
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Can't wait for a three way battle between this, the new Zapco and Audio Frog DSPs!
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Damn 120db crossover... That's excessive...
While 120dB per octave slope is excessive, essentially what they mean is that you have 10 stackable crossover selections. So lets say you want a 24db/octave bandpass, that is 4 lines, then you need a shelf, that's a 5th, maybe another shelf, 6, and a notch, that's 7. If you need to make the bandpass 36dB/octave and now you're at 9 lines of network. So...it's pretty elaborate.

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While 120dB per octave slope is excessive, essentially what they mean is that you have 10 stackable crossover selections. So lets say you want a 24db/octave bandpass, that is 4 lines, then you need a shelf, that's a 5th, maybe another shelf, 6, and a notch, that's 7. If you need to make the bandpass 36dB/octave and now you're at 9 lines of network. So...it's pretty elaborate.
Any idea on the ability for phase correction?

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Any idea on the ability for phase correction?
As of right now, still 0 (zero) and 180 degrees of adjustment.

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While 120dB per octave slope is excessive, essentially what they mean is that you have 10 stackable crossover selections. So lets say you want a 24db/octave bandpass, that is 4 lines, then you need a shelf, that's a 5th, maybe another shelf, 6, and a notch, that's 7. If you need to make the bandpass 36dB/octave and now you're at 9 lines of network. So...it's pretty elaborate.
I figured it was something like that. Any chance it has FIR filters? Or multichannel upmixing? Or that the tuning can be done from an iOS app?
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I figured it was something like that. Any chance it has FIR filters? Or multichannel upmixing? Or that the tuning can be done from an iOS app?

I don't think it has FIR filters, and an iOS app is also fairly unlikely. I have tried tuning some pro-audio DSPs using iOS apps and they don't really work all that great, to be honest.
Some things lend themselves well to a touch screen. Generally, I don't think DSP tuning is one of those things that does. Sounds nice in theory, until you actually try using it.

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I don't think it has FIR filters, and an iOS app is also fairly unlikely. I have tried tuning some pro-audio DSPs using iOS apps and they don't really work all that great, to be honest.
Some things lend themselves well to a touch screen. Generally, I don't think DSP tuning is one of those things that does. Sounds nice in theory, until you actually try using it.
I can see that. Maybe that's why Kicker went with 1/3 octave EQ for their amp/processor line. Their iOS interface works really well, for the record. For tuning at least. It seems like someone would be able to figure out a way to adapt a touchscreen device to DSP tuning software and make it easy to operate. Lots of smart people in the audio industry. Surely one of them has the brain to figure it out.
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I don't think it has FIR filters, and an iOS app is also fairly unlikely. I have tried tuning some pro-audio DSPs using iOS apps and they don't really work all that great, to be honest.
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I can see that. Maybe that's why Kicker went with 1/3 octave EQ for their amp/processor line. Their iOS interface works really well, for the record. For tuning at least. It seems like someone would be able to figure out a way to adapt a touchscreen device to DSP tuning software and make it easy to operate. Lots of smart people in the audio industry. Surely one of them has the brain to figure it out.
The Mosconi software on a surface pro tablet works really well.

The main issue with the Mosconi stuff is...Apple devices in Europe weren't really a thing for a LONG time. To top is off, you originally had to pay apple to "certify" the bluetooth interface. Now with BT 4.0, that doesn't need this certification, and the Mosconi support so much higher in the US than it ever has been before, Apple support is being looked at, and being worked on. If a Mac command library can be generated, then an iOS interface would be easy.

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How much longer until we can test drive the software?

I'm interested to see what the Aerospace can do.

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I'm interested to see what the Aerospace can do.
Imagine a 6to8, only better, and there you have it. HAHA. Software will pretty much be the sale with the additional channels. Mixer layout is a bit different, 11 and 12 are monos and programmable to suit most people's needs, within reason. More input EQing, more output EQing, source dependent preset selection for varying EQ needs. Other than that...it's mostly the same.

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Imagine a 6to8, only better, and there you have it. HAHA. Software will pretty much be the sale with the additional channels. Mixer layout is a bit different, 11 and 12 are monos and programmable to suit most people's needs, within reason. More input EQing, more output EQing, source dependent preset selection for varying EQ needs. Other than that...it's mostly the same.


More input EQ? Sweet! I'm glad to see this coming to more DSPs.

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Meh. Old news. I held one in my hand almost a week ago. I heard someone already got one installed in SoCal.


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Sweet, but is the marked really high enough for a 12 channel dsp?

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Sweet, but is the marked really high enough for a 12 channel dsp?


Hmmm. Well, a 3 way active front with subwoofer and rear fill requires 9 channels. The answer is a resounding YES, 12 channels is necessary.


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