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Default Flawed Pioneer .flac specs?

Hello Guys,

I'm looking at a Pioneer AVH-X3800BHS DVD Receiver and I'm a little confused on the .flac specs.

The manual says, verbatim:

"FLAC compatibility
USB storage device
File extension: .flac
Bit rate: 8 kbps, 16 kbps, 24 kbps
Sampling frequency: 8 kHz to 48 kHz"

I know that bit rate refers the file size and I'd expect something on the order of 1411kbps (assuming 16 bit 44.1 sampling), for example. So the 8 kbps, 16 kbps, 24 kbps is throwing me.

I am still learning about file properties, so is this my misunderstanding or are this specs flawed?

Does anyone have knowledge of the mid-level AVH units and their ability to play .flac files at, say, 16 bit/1411 kbps?

Hope that made sense- thanks.
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Default Re: Flawed Pioneer .flac specs?

I have the Pioneer 4100 DD HU. My understanding is that it will play the HiRes FLAC file, but it plays at CD quality, nothing above.

I've come to the conclusion that HiRes in the car is a waste of space, however. What I mean is that you can't hear the difference between HiRes and normal compressed lossless, so why use up all of the memory on whatever storage device you are using to try and play huge flac files?

Regardless of the quality of the gear and install, the vehicle acoustics make it impossible to hear the difference between huge HiRes files and a good lossless copy of the same recording.

I have a fairly large HiRes library and a very high end home system with thousands of dollars invested in appropriate acoustic room treatments. The truth is that, even in that environment, it is VERY difficult to hear a difference between a HiRes file and a CD quality file of the same recording. In the car, it is not going to happen.

Not trying to poopoo on the idea of using hires in the car. I suppose if you have unlimited storage and your playback unit works with it, go for it. But my experience is that most HU's are limited on the size of the media device that they can read, meaning that if you load up a usb drive or ipod with Hires files, you are going to be limited in the number of songs that you can hit the road with. I would rather be able to put 12,000 songs in lossless on my ipod classic and hit the road. YMMV.

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Default Re: Flawed Pioneer .flac specs?

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Hello Guys,

Bit rate: 8 kbps, 16 kbps, 24 kbps
Sampling frequency: 8 kHz to 48 kHz"
I would think that the technical writers and checkers simply put the wrong label in the manual.

I imagine it should be 'Bit Depth' 8, 16, 24
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agreed ^^^^^

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That's what I thought. Thanks much guys!
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