10" or 12" SQ subwoofer recommendation....I'm sorry, I have to
Hey guys, allow me to first apologize for creating a thread I'm sure you guys see at least 492381t75 times a day. I've searched, found some recommended subs but they were either out of my price range or I just couldn't power them enough, here's my criteria for the best sub for me. I'll try to be as detailed as I can!
The amp will by run off the 5th channel of a Kicker ZX700.5 amp. The sub mono channel is rated at 420 watts @ 2 ohms. Then again, my birthsheet stated my amp was rated at 919 watts, which is obviously more than 700 but I can't figure out a way to somehow see if the 420 is still 420 or it's more since overall the amp is underrated.....
Anyway, I'm looking for first and foremost a SQ sub that can get somewhat loud if need be. I don't need or want anything crazy, but I'd like to feel the clean bass, if that makes sense.
From what I've researched, the Dayton HO 10" looks to be a winner but that's a 4 ohm sub meaning it would only receive 210 watts...is that correct? That wouldn't be enough power would it?
Also, I'm looking for a sub that I can port without doing anything crazy. I measured and I can fit about 2.78 cu ft for a box. Should be big enough for most 10's or 12's out there I think but if I can go smaller, I definintely will.
Last and certainly not least, the price. I'm looking around $200, with a max of $250. Most of all I want a sub that has an excellent bang for the buck. Like if see two subs, one is $250 and one is $160, and the more expensive one is only a tiny bit better, I will go with the $160.
So based on my criteria, what would you all recommend that will give me the sound I'm looking for while being perfectly happy with the power the amp is giving it?
Any replies from anyone would be greatly appreciated, thank you very much!
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I have an Oz audio Matrix elite D4 would work well with that power ported. I believe its 2.75 cubes as well. BNIB 12". Also look at going IB if possible or get a really nice 12" you can seal (like the OZ or IDMAX, W7, Shiva etc)
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If your amp does 420 to the sub channel at 2 ohm, it will give a little more than 50% of the power at 4 ohm. It probably does 250 or more at 4 ohm.
If you don't mind using a sealed enclosure, get a Dayton RSS315HF, and put it in a 2 cubic foot box. The HF versions have slightly better sound quality and a little bit better extension, but require a bigger box.
And they're on sale for $119. This is the smokin deal for subs right now.
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Look at Exodus Shiva-X. $135+shipping, works great in 2 cubic feet sealed.
Damn. That looks pretty damn stellar, especially for the price. I didb't see it mentioned, but what's the impendence on those? And just to make sure, this should work fine with my amps power output correct? I'm not doubting your suggestion, I just have a nasty habit of making absoultely sure about everything before I make a purchase.
The RSS315HF is also on the block for strong consideration.
Thanks again for the replies guys, I really do appreciate it. Anymore input would still be great, thanks!
Just so I don't jump the gun, is this correct? Since my amp pushes out 420 @ 2 ohms, if I were to get a sub that has an impedence of 4 ohms, it would only receive around 250 watts? And if a sub has 8 ohms as the impedence, it would only receive 175 watts or so? Is that correct? As you can tell, I'm kinda new.
However, I was informed recently by another Kicker ZX700.5 user, that he actually did some testing on his and he managed to get 515 @ 2 ohms. Now taking the new figure into consideration, what would you all suggest now? Does anyone know where I can learn more about the previously mentioned Dayton RSS315HF subs? I tried doing a search but found minimal results. rimshot, I'll keep in mind your offer and do a little research. If I like what I see, I'll definintely let you know.
I keep hearing great things about the Peerless XLS line of subs as well. Could I run one of those?
Someone throw me a bone, I have no idea what to go with. Deciding really sucks.
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Dual 4 as well so your amp will be maximised. Hope this helps.
Can you explain this a bit more? How exactly will my amp be maximized? I'm not doubting you, I'm just trying to learn.
I've heard great things about the IDQ's, they just seem a tad expensive. Sorry to add another possible sub, but how about the Phoenix Gold RSDC-102? The 102 series are the 2 ohm version so all the watts from my amp would be able to power it correct? Meaning, since my amp is underrated, an average of 515 watts @ 2 ohms sounds a bit more reasonable. The RMS of the RSDC's is 600 watts so they are pretty close.
What do you all think about that? Should I look more into this particular sub or are there other options I should consider?
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Ah, gotcha. I think. Just one thing, if the 4 ohmsub gets wired to a 2 ohm load, how man watts does it recevie? The full 420 @ 2 ohms (or 515 @ 2 ohm is not underrated)? Or more?
Sorry for the noobish question, I think this my biggest hurdle. If you don't want to explain something that's probably been explained one too many times, would you happen know an easy to read site that breaks it down better?
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Ah, gotcha. I think. Just one thing, if the 4 ohmsub gets wired to a 2 ohm load, how man watts does it recevie? The full 420 @ 2 ohms (or 515 @ 2 ohm is not underrated)? Or more?
Sorry for the noobish question, I think this my biggest hurdle. If you don't want to explain something that's probably been explained one too many times, would you happen know an easy to read site that breaks it down better?
Thanks again guys for all your patience.
On the sub will be two sets of inputs. Take the plus+ from both and tie together at the output from the amp. Do the same for the neg- wires.
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Used 12W6v2 would be a good option. 13W6v2 would fit in that enclosure size as well. Dual 4 ohm, work well with 400-500W, great SQ, get loud. Put it in a low tuned ported box and rock out
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May I suggest the iDQ15 v2 D2. These are on their way out and should be going cheap somewhere. 15" cone area, 94dB sensitivity, reasonably small box friendly. We have these kicking off 200w in some installs, should do wonders in yours.
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I second the notion of an IDQv2, be it a 12" or 15". These can be had all over the boards for less than $150. Great SQ sub, doesn't look all that impressive, but is a great driver. Would try to squeeze a 15" if you could since these wont have quite the output of the newer (and more expensive) IDQv3....
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The suggestions to go with a single 15 is good advice if you can fit it in your car. This will give you a good amount of output from a single sub, and keep price reasonable since you're only buying one sub and a smaller (single) box. Don't go smaller than a single 12. I personally would never recommend a single 10 or smaller unless space is limited.
One thing to keep in mind: A single 4 ohm 12" sub (a small box version) might be a good idea because it gives you room to expand. If you decide you want or need more output, one more sub (more cone area) is the best way to do it. Just pick up one more 12" sub identical to the one you decide on, and you're good to go.
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Being defeated is often a temporary condition. Giving up is what makes it permanent. X-type Jaguar, iPod, MiniDSP 2x8, /////ALPINE PDX-5, Seas Neo's, Dayton RS180's, Dayton HO 12's
Being defeated is often a temporary condition. Giving up is what makes it permanent. X-type Jaguar, iPod, MiniDSP 2x8, /////ALPINE PDX-5, Seas Neo's, Dayton RS180's, Dayton HO 12's
I was just about to post this, it looks really good for the price.
If you guys don't mind, let me run through a few things and tell me if I got this or not.
Ok. This HO is a 4 ohm, DVC (it is DVC right?). My amp pumps out the suggested 420, real world around 510 or so, watts @ 2 ohms.
Since this sub is a 4 ohm, and my amp is a 2 ohm, I have to wire so there is 2 ohms all around. I do this by wiring them parallel, so it looks like this...
Then since everything is 2 ohms, the 510 watts or so will go straight to the sub.
First question....am I correct?
2nd question....that deal looks really good. The Dayton HO 12"s has an RMS of 700 watts. Will my 510 or so RMS watts be enough to make this sub sound good? Or would I be starving it too much thus making me lose some sound quality? I already know subs can't be damaged from being underpowered, I'm just worried about the sound.
Lastly, is there anyplace that sells the IDQv3's other than woofersetc? Maybe someplace cheaper?
Thanks again for all the assistance guys, I really do appreciate it.
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Yep, basically wiring your DVC 4 subs in parallel gives you a final impedance of 2 ohms maximising your amp output of 510 or so watts. As chrisw85 mentioned the daytons are SVC with 4 ohm impedance. It's a good SQ sub although you wont be achieving your initial goal which is maximising your amp.
10" or 12" SQ subwoofer recommendation....I'm sorry, I have to
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