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what kind of crossover capability does this amp have? some sort of plugin module?
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Default Re: xtant 404m

You need to buy the lil HP/LP modules and then you can make your own sip chips for each frequency based off resistor value AFAIK - or buy the chips off ebay or call up xtant/mtx. Basically, a PITFA.

Otherwise, probably my favourite amp ever.

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ah so in the same vein as the pg xs series then, for the true enthusiast
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Default Re: xtant 404m

This works on the X series, I would expect the M series to be the same

Steps to creating a custom crossover frequency sip

1. Choose a crossover frequency from the chart and note the
corresponding sip code.
2. Translate sip code into a resistor value.
3. Load 6 - 1/8th or 1/4 watt resistors into the sip socket isolating the leads.

Frequency SIP Code Resistor
Value
7000 Hz 102 1000 Ohm
6500 Hz 112 1100 Ohm
5600 Hz 132 1300 Ohm
5000 Hz 152 1500 Ohm
4600 Hz 162 1600 Ohm
4000 Hz 182 1800 Ohm
3700 Hz 202 2000 Ohm
3300 Hz 222 2200 Ohm
3000 Hz 242 2400 Ohm
2700 Hz 272 2700 Ohm
2400 Hz 302 3000 Ohm
2200 Hz 332 3300 Ohm
2000 Hz 362 3600 Ohm
1900 Hz 392 3900 Ohm
1700 Hz 432 4300 Ohm
1600 Hz 472 4700 Ohm
1400 Hz 512 5100 Ohm
1300 Hz 562 5600 Ohm
1200 Hz 622 6200 Ohm
1100 Hz 682 6800 Ohm
1000 Hz 752 7500 Ohm
900 Hz 822 8200 Ohm
800 Hz 912 9100 Ohm
700 Hz 103 10000 Ohm
600 Hz 133 13000 Ohm
500 Hz 153 15000 Ohm
450 Hz 163 16000 Ohm
400 Hz 183 18000 Ohm
375 Hz 203 20000 Ohm
300 Hz 273 27000 Ohm
250 Hz 303 30000 Ohm
200 Hz 393 39000 Ohm
150 Hz 563 56000 Ohm
120 Hz 683 68000 Ohm
100 Hz 913 91000 Ohm
90 Hz 104 100000 Ohm
80 Hz 114 110000 Ohm
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Default Re: xtant 404m

That only works if you have the crossover circuitry on your amp :P
The X series has a crossover for which you can adjust the frequency...however, the m series does not.
You need the modules for it to do anything.

Speaking of which...i should sell my Parametric Module i have. Was gonna use on my 2200i, but then blew the input stage by touching the module input pins with a screwdriver while it was on (trying to adjust something)...damn open circuit board.

Otherwise i also love the Xtant amps.

ON a side note, from the russian mobile magazine (i forget it's name, AutoByte???) The A series actually puts out more power and at less distortion. somewhat based on the same board too. So the A4004, and A2002 are also very good. (compared to 404m and 202m which i run). Both are excellent and the balanced input circuitry is a godsend which eliminated all my engine whine.

I use the 202m for my seas tweets and the 404m bridged to my rs180's

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might be able to pick one up for 100, what do you guys think?
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Ya, going rate is $80-110 on ebay depending on the market.

I preach it ad-neaseum: you CANT find a better 4x50/2x200 amp for $100 anywhere.

I wish I never sold mine

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ya...i got A4004, then sold for Avionixx 600.4, sucked (noise and problems)...warranty replaced with 800.4 OK i guess but not as good...then got the A4004T (titanium silver one...nice)...worked great...then added 202m for tweets, then got matching 404m and sold a4004...meanwhile i always bought them for $100us and sold locally for $175Cdn...so made money always. Xtant is truely a good brand and i think even their new stuff is fine although having been bought out. (still have the balanced input and also a good amplifier circuit overall)...although maybe i shouldn't hype them up as the prices will rise on ebay.

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I preach it ad-neaseum: you CANT find a better 4x50/2x200 amp for $100 anywhere.



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very true
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which is true? the statement? or that he preaches it ad-neaseum? haha
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Excuse the newbness but are specific crossover chips still required even if using the 404m to power an active setup, or will the HU take care of everything in that case?
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If you don't have the chips installed the amp does nothing to alter the signal.
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If you don't have the chips installed the amp does nothing to alter the signal.
As in it doesn't change the amplitude of the signal?
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The chips don't alter amplitude or anything else if they aren't installed. The pins have a jumper on them that allows them to bypass any signal altering. The function of the amp is to change the amplitude of the signal.
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So by installing different chips on this amp you are able to specify the range of frequencies that you wish to amplify?
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The amp changes the amplitude but the crossover chips will allow different frequencies to pass or be blocked. It's a little more complicated than what you've described but you're on the right track.
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