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1. Are those 10 events all judged but the same 2 judges or is it by different judges?

2. What were the conditions of the venues? I heard from MANY competitors that there was some weird voodoo happening in the Harv and stages were skewed and freq responses were all over the place from day to day

3. Do you know who your judge was? Have they heard your car before? A lot of judges get comfortable in cars they have seen over and over again with little to know changes being made to them so they know what to expect. I'm not saying thats always the case but I know it happens. Seeing judges you dont know shakes things up for competitors and they are often left wonder who the hell let this guy/gal judge a car only to see that it comes down to familiarity of the car.

4. How many IASCA judges got into your car over the weekend? Over the past month? How many if any changes did you make for this show?


Again, just asking questions to help you figure out why your score may have been lower then your average


EDIT: I see that you had a 1st place and a 3rd place with a swing of 4 points. On a MECA scale 4 points isnt just 4 points which I explained earlier its actually more like 16 when you take into account that there are .25 points used not whole points. How is it possible that you went from 3rd to 1st with what i presume was the same judges just more of them.
There was only one judge for the 2x event, and he was dedicated to that event only. The three judges for the 3x were not involved in the 2x at all.
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Default SQology Steel Valley Regional VII - New Cumberland, WV - July 28-29, 2018

Just curious how much time you guys spent seating your judges? My score from Geoff was about three points lower than usual and I blame it on how I seated him. Simple mistakes like this can make a big difference in your scores.

Iím going to be driving another seven hours this weekend to see him again to work on getting him positioned correctly.


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Just curious how much time you guys spent seating your judges? My score from Geoff was about three points lower than usual and I blame it on how I seated him. Simple mistakes like this can make a big difference in your scores.

Iím going to be driving another seven hours this weekend to see him again to work on getting him positioned correctly.


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this sexy beast.. its also why he won phat car





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Just curious how much time you guys spent seating your judges? My score from Geoff was about three points lower than usual and I blame it on how I seated him. Simple mistakes like this can make a big difference in your scores.

Iím going to be driving another seven hours this weekend to see him again to work on getting him positioned correctly.


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i made sure my judges were seated correctly , even to the point of putting a piece of painters tape on the pillar to align there ear , i said this is where your ear should be so adjust the seat to that point and i waited til it was lined up until i left the car , i was trying to cover what ever variables i could

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Anyone have any info on Mercury car audio? Never heard of them, but that's a good looking amp there.
Eddie DeJesus is the North American Distributor for Mercury. The amps in his car (2014 Hyundai Equus - Ultimate) are the mid-line for the brand. He has told me that the top line is outstanding although I have yet to look at them.

I was told that his car sounded MUCH better at SVR than it did at the HAT show last month. It is a beautiful install and Mercury is no slouch.

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i made sure my judges were seated correctly , even to the point of putting a piece of painters tape on the pillar to align there ear , i said this is where your ear should be so adjust the seat to that point and i waited til it was lined up until i left the car , i was trying to cover what ever variables i could
This is really splitting hairs for that last tenth of a point. I always said I'd never get that anal, but I see myself going that way if I wish to compete too I just said, here, hop in & enjoy. Obviously it worked well for you. Maybe I need to rethink this positioning the judges thing as well

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Eddie DeJesus is the North American Distributor for Mercury. The amps in his car (2014 Hyundai Equus - Ultimate) are the mid-line for the brand. He has told me that the top line is outstanding although I have yet to look at them.

I was told that his car sounded MUCH better at SVR than it did at the HAT show last month. It is a beautiful install and Mercury is no slouch.
I got a demo in the Equus and it sounded great, Eddie seemed like a nice guy to talk to as well. IIRC he said they were working on a demo truck to bring out as well.

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This is really splitting hairs for that last tenth of a point. I always said I'd never get that anal, but I see myself going that way if I wish to compete too I just said, here, hop in & enjoy. Obviously it worked well for you. Maybe I need to rethink this positioning the judges thing as well
I kind of feel the same way, but at the same time, I think if competing you have to go to that level of detail. I know in my own car if I move my head forward just a couple inches, it screws things around enough that if a judge is not in that ideal spot I tuned for, I am shooting myself in the foot in a competition.

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Default Re: SQology Steel Valley Regional VII - New Cumberland, WV - July 28-29, 2018

Related but unrelated comment that Ive been thinking about since the show.

After the show I was talking with Stan Frazier, Nick Scott and James Feltenberger who all judged the top 30 SQ round.

Most do not know that these were some of the best IASCA judges from "back in the day". James in particular is a professional Trumpet player and conductor w a Masters in Music.

I asked them how they liked being back judging and all agreed that cars today sound better. but the bigger point is that this has become a highly specialized hobby/sport.

Originally, you had to be very good at several things. Sound, Install, RTA and SPL. Any deficient area, needed to be made up somewhere else on the score sheet at having a chance to be on stage.
Also, originally--competitors could NOT make any changes between SQ, RTA and SPL. it all had to be done from the same setting....digital dsps, relay banks, seperate eqs all changed these rules..


But Today---the knowledge that even the novice rookie competitor typically comes in to a show with, is significantly higher than even 10 years ago.
the ability to manipulate sound and even poor speaker locations via DSP makes getting a good sounding car pretty easy for most.

There is becoming less and less separating the bottom from the top. Just looking at the top 30 scores and even several of the IASCA and MECA scores to see how tight the scores are a great illustration of this point.

At the end of the day there are 2 big things----If you're someone who is happy with how their car sounds--fine, enjoy it regardless of a score or something someone says
But---This is also a competition. Its about trying to win and do well, those who care about the competition side will go through alot to earn a spot on the stage.

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Damn, I never thought about seating the judges and that cost me 3rd place in my class cuz I got 3 points less from 1 judge because my stage was slightly to the left , I like the idea of marking where your ear should be as I already have a mark on the center of the windshield. I’ve already fixed everything that the judges commented on and can’t wait for the next show.
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Does anyone have any information or more pics on the black Chrysler 300 beside the Audi?

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Does anyone have any information or more pics on the black Chrysler 300 beside the Audi?
yeah its bills car i dont know if he is on here , why ?

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yeah its bills car i dont know if he is on here , why ?
I just bought a 300S 4 months ago and was curious what was done to his and how the install looked. I guess I can wait till Finals and see it there if he goes.

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I just bought a 300S 4 months ago and was curious what was done to his and how the install looked. I guess I can wait till Finals and see it there if he goes.
well from what i remember , he is running the stevens mini horns and 8 inch mid bass and a pair of dayton 15's ib , with zapco lx amps and 2 big ass stinger batt's in the trunk . nice install as well all hidden too

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well from what i remember , he is running the stevens mini horns and 8 inch mid bass and a pair of dayton 15's ib , with zapco lx amps and 2 big ass stinger batt's in the trunk . nice install as well all hidden too
Thanks to you and Mic for the info. I really want to see it now but realized that I already have something scheduled for the same weekend as Finals. Need to decide which is more important now.

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