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Hello All,

My name is Chris and I’m from the Bay Area. I figured that I’d start a log after mulling around the site for a few months. I’m preparing to start my most in depth build since 2Pac was on the radio. I’m confident in my 12v skills, but this will be my first time using a DSP. I must admit that I’m apprehensive about tuning it, but I really enjoy learning and projects - so here I am.

I have a 2015 Toyota Camry XSE V6 and I’m hoping to keep a mostly stock stereo appearance. With that in mind, I plan on doing something that (as far as my research has shown) has not been documented before.

I’ve purchased an OEM JBL Entune headunit and amp to replace my non-JBL Entune headunit. The two should be a direct swap, but I haven’t seen this verified yet.

I plan on using a PAC AmpPro as a pre-amp for a miniDSP c-DSP 6x8.

From PAC’s user manual:

“The PAC AP4-TY12 provides a 6-channel pre-amp output for use with aftermarket audio equipment. Using the full range, fixed level head unit output, in conjunction with data bus messages, the AP4-TY12 delivers a variable 5v RMS pre- amp output with fading, balance, equalization, and level control capabilities. The module also retains audio from other vehicle features such as factory navigation prompts, Bluetooth and Voice Activation.”

I plan on using two JL audio amplifiers, one HX280/4 (which I purchased previously) and one XD400/4v2. I’m hoping to mount these discreetly under the drivers seat in the stock JBL amps location on a piece of moldable abs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58-861C6b2c&t=259s

The OEM JBL amp must remain hooked up for the AmpPro to work properly, so I plan on relocating this behind the head-unit.

I bought a compliment of Audiofrog Speakers including GS690’s (6x9”’s) for the front doors, GS40’s (4”) mids which hopefully will work in the stock corner dash locations, and GS10’s (1”) which I may flush mount in the “A” pillars.





I also have a previously installed set of Alpine 6x9”s in the rear deck. I plan on keeping these for rear fill, but I’ll need to see how things go.


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I typed up an excel spreadsheet of all my costs so far. I didn’t plan on spending this much, but I can see how it would be easy to spend much more:


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The factory JBL amp and harness arrived today. For those that didn’t read my first post, in order for me to get a clean pre-amp signal out of the OEM JBL HU via the PAC AmpPro, I had to install the factory JBL amp too.

Here are some photos to help others considering this upgrade:


To the OEM JBL HU


I bought this harness and the amp from infotainment.com. It has a composite video out tied into the harness:


Here’s what I think the OEM location would be under the drivers seat. I plan on mounting my JL Amps in this spot, so this probably won’t end up here:



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Subscribed and watching intently

BTW, may want to check the build log link you have in your signature... it brought me to the homepage instead of here.
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BTW, may want to check the build log link you have in your signature... it brought me to the homepage instead of here.
Thanks for the heads up Ryan, I corrected the signature link.

I had a chance to put the JBL headunit in yesterday and our suspicions were correct - itís plug ní play with full functionality. Iíll update with installation pictures and more information regarding the installation either today or tomorrow.

Thanks for leading me in this direction!


Notice ďJBLĒ just below the lower left of the screen

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Thanks for the heads up Ryan, I corrected the signature link.

I had a chance to put the JBL headunit in yesterday and our suspicions were correct - itís plug ní play with full functionality. Iíll update with installation pictures and more information regarding the installation either today or tomorrow.

Thanks for leading me in this direction!
Very Cool! I'm glad it's working out so far.

So does the JBL head-unit power the speakers directly without the JBL amp installed?... meaning it has a built in amplifier with speaker level outputs and fixed level pre-amp outputs to feed the JBL amp too?

Also, no special "programming" needed so the vehicle and the head-unit recognize each other?

Very interested to see how the PAC AMPro integration goes...
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So, as I said in my last post, the JBL Entune Head unit went in without a hitch. To answer Ryanís (truthunter) question, the amp does need to be plugged in for any sound to come out of the speakers. The unit will function without it, just void of any sound.

The JBL HU was 100% plug and play. No programming of any sort was necessary.

The part number of the HU I purchased was 86100-06341. The interchange part numbers are 86100-06501, 86804-06110, and 86100-06502.

Hereís a comparison of the rear connections on the JBL (right) and non-JBL Entune Head Units. Theyíre identical:


I didnít realize it until I started removing the HVAC controls from my original HU to swap to the JBL, but this is the navigation unit:


Hereís the video I followed for installation:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YIRj4eEgqpk&t=311s

There ends up being an empty socket on the HU after everything is plugged in. Here is a photo I found on the internet of a similar unit. I couldnít take a picture of mine as I only found the out after I gave up looking for the missing plug and mounted the unit:


I tried mounting the JBL amp behind the radio, but it just wouldnít fit and ended up under the drivers seat. Hereís a few shots of spots I tried:



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I bought the JBL Amp and harness from infotainment here: https://www.infotainment.com/product...-amplifier-kit

The description on infotainmentís website gave me the impression that:

1. The amp was new

2. The amp was the OEM part for my 2015 Camry. I had entered my cars make/model into the websiteís drop down menus which led me to the JBL amp page.

Unfortunately, I was wrong with both of my assumptions. It seems that infotainment.com makes the harness for the feed between the JBL HU and the JBL AMP, then pairs their harness to a salvaged amp.

The amp that I was sent was pulled from another vehicle which was likely either a Toyota Venza (part number: 86280-0T010) or a Toyota Sienna (part number: 86280-08031).

Hereís what actually comes with the Ď15 Camry
OEM 2015 TOYOTA Camry JBL GreenEDGE Radio Amplifier 86100-0w280


With under seat brackets installed:


Iím just mentioning all this to assure that anyone considering this install has all the facts. I probably wouldnít have purchased a different Oem amp if I knew all this ahead of time.

I emailed Infotainment over the weekend regarding my concerns. Iíll update with their response when/if they respond.
Hereís a shot of the amp/ harness listing:


On the plus side, the harness infotainment provides has composite video inputs which allows the passenger to mirror their phone on the navigation screen and allow video in motion. This unit is pretty slick as most other phone mirroring options involve a physical switch to change input sources and the navigation stops working when the input is used.



Hereís a video showing how this AV input works. Itís actually pretty slick:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VDcPkX4bbo

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Looking forward to seeing the rest of this build. I'm going to be doing a very similar setup with the C-DSP and AudioFrog speakers.
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Quite a few things arrived today that I was waiting on.

I already had the GS690ís, but the other two pairs got here today:


Most importantly, the pre-amp got here today. This thing is tiny, Iíll definitely be able to tuck it somewhere behind the hvac controls or center console. I get to pull the HU back out, yay.


Iíve been thinking about how to deal with the usb inputs on the minidsp c-DSP and the PAC AMPPRO. Iíll need to connect the the minidsp a lot and Iíd like to be able to easily connect to the AmpPro if I need to also.

Well, I have a 12v cigarette lighter outlet in my glovebox that Iíll never use. So, Iím going to remove it and mount this dual usb input in the hole it leaves:

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Most importantly, the pre-amp got here today. This thing is tiny, Iíll definitely be able to tuck it somewhere behind the hvac controls or center console. I get to pull the HU back out, yay.
May I suggest placing the PAC in an area that is easily accessible.. I know what a chore it is removing the front of the center console and the head-unit. Did that way too many times in my install

Maybe place the PAC directly under the piece with the seat heater controls at the rear of the console as that part can be popped out quickly and easily if for some reason it needs to be accessed for troubleshooting in the future... I suppose it depends on if the harnesses are long enough to do so.
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Today I installed the PAC AMPpro, then ran RCAís and the 12v constant/remote/ground to the trunk for the MiniDSP C-DSP.

The harness for the AmpPro was only about two feet long:


But the length was perfect to place the AmpPro unit right under the coin tray in the center console:




I had previously purchased this ďCamry Sound Processor Integration HarnessĒ from taco tunes. I thought since I had the AmpPro I wouldnít need it.
https://tacotunes.com/shop/toyota-ca...tion-system-2/

But it ended up providing a no cut/ no tap solution to run a 2a remote wire for the amps and the mini DSP, and a 12v constant/ground from HU for the mini DSP:



I also decided to return my unused/unopened JL Hx280/4 as it really isnít right for my application. I plan on buying a second JL XD400/4 and running 8 channels (6 front, 2 rear fill) + the JBL 8Ē underseat sub (just to fill in a bit where the Frog 6x9ís leave off).

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I just bought a second JL XD400/4 and boxed up the HX280/4 for return.

Iím thinking of mounting the amps on black textured 1/4Ē abs sheets (possibly carpeted) and attaching them to the rear deck:


One here to the right which will easily fit (*The ďJLĒ emblem fell off of this amp. A replacement emblem is on the way.)


And the other XD400 (hopefully) will mount here on the left. I may need to get creative with the moldable 1/4Ē abs sheet:


These also arrived last night. I still need to download the plugin and REW to familiarize myself:

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I worked on the the bracket for my under seat sub yesterday. I saw a guy on YouTube form an underseat amp bracket out of 1/4Ē abs sheeting, so I decided to try it out.

I knew heading into this that I had a conflict with an hvac vent and I had planned on just removing it. Well, I ended up just modifying it and I was pleased with the results.

Here are some pictures of my progress.











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Bracket made out of 1/4Ē abs sheeting:




I still need to get some threaded inserts to embed into the plastic. Then Iíll install the bracket and screw the sub enclosure to the bracket. This should give me a nice, solid mount for the sub, and none of it will be visible to rear seat passengers.

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Looks good.
I've never used abs... Did you just use a heat gun to heat up the abs to form it? And how will the bracket attach to the vehicle?
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I've never used abs... Did you just use a heat gun to heat up the abs to form it? And how will the bracket attach to the vehicle?
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The 1/8Ē abs will bend with just a heat gun, but I used 1/4Ē. I scored it on both sides then used a heat gun to get the bends.

There are steel rails on each side of the depression that the sub sits in and I plan on screwing the bracket to these.

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Couple updates. Iíve been working on getting everything wired up and other associated installation items each morning when I get home from work (7 pm - 7am shifts for the next few months).

Just finished up the mounting board for the DSP. I made it out of 1/4Ē textured ABS. As the pictures below detail, I used double sided tape to adhere the DSP to the ABS sheet and cut it out on the router with a Straight Flute Flush Trim Bit.













Hereís a shot straight on with the DSP sitting on the mounting board:

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I also mounted my fuses yesterday.

I bought this black strap from eBay:
New Metal Back Strap 18"

And these Phoenix Gold Fuse holders - which were really great quality for the price:
PHOENIX GOLD FH.501K 4 OR 8 GAUGE FUSE HOLDER

I ran a 4 awg and a 8 awg instead of a single larger diameter line because thatís what I had on hand.

Here are some pictures of how it turned out:



Fuse holders mounted to strap:









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Got the miniDSP 6x8 mounted.

Found a great spot (thanks truthunter) but had a OEM wire conflict:


Relocated wire:


Used this hardware in some of the existing holes:


Board mounted:


DSP mounted with some rough wiring. Should be hidden behind the trunk lining when all is done. I ran the remote cable and USB up to the center console, so hopefully I wonít have to access the physical unit very often.

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Started the amp rack template for two JL xd400/4:


Finished product out of textured 1/4Ē ABS:


Relocated the cables for the rear seat fold pulls:




Hereís the amp rack mounted to the rear deck in its final location. I built it up with two additional 1/4Ē abs pieces (3 total) with a hollow space in the center for wires:


I got one of the xd400/4ís wired and mounted, the other one will obviously be right next to it:






JL was kind enough to send me a new badge to replace the missing one. I also flipped the orientation to match my install:

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Default Re: 2015 Camry OEM JBL Appearance Build Log, Audiofrog and JL Audio Components

Looking good Chris

Lol, It's like deja vu for me with those Stinger 6000 RCAs, MiniDSP and how it's all routed.

I also had to reroute that factory harness where the DSP was mounted.
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Looking good Chris

Lol, It's like deja vu for me with those Stinger 6000 RCAs, MiniDSP and how it's all routed.

I also had to reroute that factory harness where the DSP was mounted.
Thanks Ryan.

Your build log has definitely been a huge resource for me throughout my build.

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I ran into an issue when I tried to mount my second amp. The picture below shows the amp temporarily mounted as I terminated the cables. Once I moved the amp into its final position the RCA connectors hit against the bolt holding the middle rear seat-belt in place - a bolt/bracket combo that Iíd definitely rather not mess with.



I bought a pair of these AudioQuest 90 Degree RCA male to RCA female adapters on amazon and I have my fingers crossed that theyíll provide the clearance I need (I only have two channels hooked up to this amp). If the 90ís donít work, I may be able to drop the board down a bit, but that will mean disconnecting everything, drilling new holes and possibly the need modify the board to a smaller size. Definitely something Iíd rather not do.

I guess it wouldnít be as much fun if everything went according to plan

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Default Re: 2015 Camry OEM JBL Appearance Build Log, Audiofrog and JL Audio Components

I solved my RCA clearance conflict which I explained in my last post. I bought two 90 degree RCA adapters which got me very close. For the last 1/2 inch I had to cut the last few threads off the seat belt mounting bolt.

Luckily Iím running this amp bridged (2 x 100 watts) so I donít need the other two channels which ended up blocked.


Seat belt bracket bolt


Cut threads. Applied dielectric grease to the exposed metal.


Plenty of clearance


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Default Re: 2015 Camry OEM JBL Appearance Build Log, Audiofrog and JL Audio Components

I decided to use an OEM grounding location in the rear drivers side sail panel for the two JL 400/4 amps.


Removed grounding bracket and ground away undercoating


Covered the exposed metal in anti seize.

(Side Note: As I searched for the correct material to use to protect the bare metal exposed for the ground I stumbled upon some controversy. Dielectric grease or graphite rich anti seize?)


I decided to place the ring terminal on top of the factory ground. This allowed the best contact when all of the grounds were considered.




Ground distribution mounted on the rear deck


I used a hammer type cable lug crimping tool for all of my 8 awg and larger connections. I was very pleased with the results. Iíd certainly recommend it to anyone that wants the ability to crimp larger sized wire but doesnít do it that often.

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