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mmm. i just got my horns installed. maybe ill come around to taking pics.

found myself image dynamics cd ultras full bodies with drivers for 175 shipped. Is it just me, or does the plastic bodies smell really bad?

ive spent...40 minutes of tuning while driving. and ive gotten them to sound really nice for a few songs.. and other songs sound soooo bad and sharp
Turn down 2.5 to 4khz maybe try centering around 3.6k Q 1.2
To -10db thatís being the only eq on horns for setting gain. than ajust gain down until sounding smoother and listenable
Than eq down other problem areas. Donít boost in eq at least until you know whatís actually going on.. even than...mooot

You definitely overgained. You want the gain to sound like the horns arenít quite loud enough barely , than fix the midrange and midbass by cutting peaks and should come together.

Read Ericís tuning horns thread and pay attention to the details of what he says to do. All the little steps matter a lot with horns

And I love the smell of the mold release and urethane. Especially on a hot day :-) smells like pen ink (yummy)

ALSo pull the diaphragm out of the motor (carefully) gently pull on the voice coil as you pinch the voice coil and see if the glue has separated from the dome.
Inspect for dents in dome from abusive crossover points from hitting phase plug or debris in throat. Clean the voice coil gap with masking tape and business card and reassemble if all looks good.

Eric can help you or direct you on a new diaphragm if you need one.
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Turn down 2.5 to 4khz maybe try centering around 3.6k Q 1.2
To -10db thatís being the only eq on horns for setting gain. than ajust gain down until sounding smoother and listenable
Than eq down other problem areas. Donít boost in eq at least until you know whatís actually going on.. even than...mooot

You definitely overgained. You want the gain to sound like the horns arenít quite loud enough barely , than fix the midrange and midbass by cutting peaks and should come together.

Read Ericís tuning horns thread and pay attention to the details of what he says to do. All the little steps matter a lot with horns

And I love the smell of the mold release and urethane. Especially on a hot day :-) smells like pen ink (yummy)

ALSo pull the diaphragm out of the motor (carefully) gently pull on the voice coil as you pinch the voice coil and see if the glue has separated from the dome.
Inspect for dents in dome from abusive crossover points from hitting phase plug or debris in throat. Clean the voice coil gap with masking tape and business card and reassemble if all looks good.

Eric can help you or direct you on a new diaphragm if you need one.
Good luck

sweet. I actually saw that horn tuning 101 that eric wrote up.
Only thing ive done was xovers and the slopes. No ta or eq yet.

that smell.. pen ink?? hahaha ive never smelled pen ink before.

I suppose checking the unit would be smart. Though since i put it in, i wont be doing that for a while. Baby is on the way, those drivers were purchased before the baby. installed it in record time with the couple hours i have not setting up baby stuff. Haha
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sweet. I actually saw that horn tuning 101 that eric wrote up.
Only thing ive done was xovers and the slopes. No ta or eq yet.

that smell.. pen ink?? hahaha ive never smelled pen ink before.

I suppose checking the unit would be smart. Though since i put it in, i wont be doing that for a while. Baby is on the way, those drivers were purchased before the baby. installed it in record time with the couple hours i have not setting up baby stuff. Haha
No eq?!!!

At a minimum you have to turn down three to 4K at least 10 DB or they will sound awful thatís just at a minimum

Private message me if you have any questions letís stop dirtying up this thread Iíll be happy to help you

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At a minimum you have to turn down three to 4K at least 10 DB or they will sound awful thatís just at a minimum



Private message me if you have any questions letís stop dirtying up this thread Iíll be happy to help you
Not sure I agree with that. I had a pair of ID mini body on the CD1e driver that sounded fabulous with only the high end boosted 6db or so. (Above 6khz) cut 3-4khz by 10+db and you will have killed most cymbals.

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Any way to get all these links pics to show?
I think they all disappeared when Photobucket ditched the free accounts.


I would love to see all those old installs . . .

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Coming soon.

2003 Chevy venture 43k original miles , super clean van!

Going to try the Veritas in the grocery getter. The wife will pull up to the sooper with her country jams , all the other moms will be jelin.

Canít decide what motor to stick on these? Any recommendations

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From the look at these horns , it defy looks the the HF is going to have a very hard time making a turn around the bend in the body, from what I was told about the center being dominated by HF looks obvious.

She dosent have a console but the center of the dash protruding about 4Ē past lower dash and glove box.

Iím going to have to do some treatments for sure and maybe tilt them up about 4į Or so
To get the stage to rise enough. The van sits upright like an suv, but for hers as long as itís spectral itís all gravy baby!

Was just told the 450 radian came on these , I was thinking maybe a radian or a de500 or de550tn

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Was just told the 450 radian came on these , I was thinking maybe a radian or a de500 or de550tn
Radian not even close to a DE500 or DE550. Original ID drivers were Radian and while decent no where near the CD2 Comp. I dont think the mouth are and flare rate would take advantage of the DE550 larger diaphragm area.
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Radian not even close to a DE500 or DE550. Original ID drivers were Radian and while decent no where near the CD2 Comp. I dont think the mouth are and flare rate would take advantage of the DE550 larger diaphragm area.

I havenít had a set of 500s Iíve heard lots of good things about them just never had a set. Now I have an excuse to get a set :-)

What do you think about the difference between the 550 and the 550tn?
I havenít had a set of titanium drivers that I liked since the ultras or the cd2
However I remember loving the ultra sound quite a lot.

If I wanted a driver that will play lower on maybe another horn (Hint hint :-p)
Would you go for the 550 or the 550tn (which is better for low end).


(Meaning Iíll probably swap them out down the road to a better horn, or should I just get the 500)

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After reviewing the 550 wont play any lower, just handles more power. The small volume of the rear chamber is the reason. Go polymer no matter what.
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The wife will pull up to the sooper with her country jams , all the other moms will be jelin.
That made me laugh, more than it should have. Good to see a horn install.

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That made me laugh, more than it should have. Good to see a horn install.

Itís partially because she always takes my car wherever she goes and leaves me the van she says she likes to bump and likes the horns.

So I figure, now whatever car she takes at least Iíll have something to play with.

As her punishment tho sheís getting the sundown u-15 in the 6th order, and Iím going to do some of Ericís subs in my car.
He was telling me about them and wow! I canít wait to try them.

I could actually have some trunk space and still have good bass

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mmm. i just got my horns installed. maybe ill come around to taking pics.

found myself image dynamics cd ultras full bodies with drivers for 175 shipped. Is it just me, or does the plastic bodies smell really bad?

ive spent...40 minutes of tuning while driving. and ive gotten them to sound really nice for a few songs.. and other songs sound soooo bad and sharp
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And another horn system , Jesseís car. (2010 ish Lancer EVo

Car is a little dirty but dam it sounded pretty good.
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I got to say the mb6 gets with it. Oh my gosh thatís a nice sounding speaker. I literally could not believe how much sound came out of that 6.5. Very nice indeed plays nicely down to 100 crossed at 120 LR4 and 960 LR4










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Broooo stop it before i spend money I don't have.

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Did you try the ES MB6 high-passed @80hz?

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Car is a little dirty but dam it sounded pretty good.

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Xd4004 bridged on HLCDs

Jl audio twk88 dsp

13w7 on a slash 1000/1



I got to say the mb6 gets with it. Oh my gosh thatís a nice sounding speaker. I literally could not believe how much sound came out of that 6.5. Very nice indeed plays nicely down to 100 crossed at 120 LR4 and 960 LR4



















Nice install. Looks great Andy!

And same here...everytime I see these ES drivers I want one even more.

So you crossed them at [email protected] particular reason why? Better question is it install related or function of the driver? I look at these as more of a "hybrid" b/w PA and traditional speakers and was thinking 70/80hz would be good (the MB8 anyway).

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Nice install. Looks great Andy!

And same here...everytime I see these ES drivers I want one even more.

So you crossed them at [email protected] particular reason why? Better question is it install related or function of the driver? I look at these as more of a "hybrid" b/w PA and traditional speakers and was thinking 70/80hz would be good (the MB8 anyway).
The MB6 works great with an 80 Hz high pass, and the MB8 is even better and can do well to as low as 60 Hz ut I suggest 70 to 80.
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"I look at these as more of a "hybrid" b/w PA and traditional speakers and was thinking 70/80hz would be good (the MB8 anyway)."

I think that is a great summary.

I cant bottom mb6 with 250watts at ~72hz
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The only reason why I choose 120 is the owner of that car listens way way louder than I can apprxeciate and his taste in music is almost saturated in the midbass, maybe his hires player was adding too much gain and getting dangerously close to 0dbfs. When I played my iPhone I could get his system to go all the way up with no distortion at all. With his hires player it was as loud as my iPhone at about half volume. To each there own, 120 at full power it still was grabbing into the 80s with the amount of eq cuts that was needed at 140-300. When he comes back for more work I may try it lower. I wanted to keep power handling at its max for awhile unti he learns a little more.

Iím my experience first time horn owners tend to want to have fun with the addded volume abilities for awhile than the sq desires come out eventually.


His sub played decent to 120 , a little eq before crossing it worked good for his requirements, he definitely likes good sq and is into hires and stuff......

I think my gut was telling me something.

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