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Also One guy saying they play OK doesn`t mean shit, counterfeit speakers still speakers.
I`m concerned how many of those will be resold here as legitimate drivers at later times.
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I bought some out of curiosity. Will try to see if they're counterfeit when I get em

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If you have originals to compare them with.

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What we don't know is how his "generic" stuff measures. Could be better than OEM, could be worse. I don't think he's hiding or sneaking anything, or selling as something that it is not. Maybe he considers those ribbons a suitable replacement (same size, same mounting points, same timbre, etc.), I'm not sure.

I personally would like to try a few, but I don't have the pockets or need at the moment.

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Also One guy saying they play OK doesn`t mean shit, counterfeit speakers still speakers.
I`m concerned how many of those will be resold here as legitimate drivers at later times.
I will tell you from first hand experience China companies will clone almost anything! It amazes me what all they clone. From the smallest electronic parts to food products to the largest construction cranes.

This is why I can't bring myself to buy any speakers not directly from Crutchfield or directly from the manufacture.
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They are not.

I know my SPX PRO's. They were the "ones that got away" when I had to sell the vehicle with them installed, since they create huge holes in door panels.

They also measure damn nice. I only measured them with REW as a whole system (so I get that I am not getting a specific tweeter measurement) but they are nice and smooth, no question. I've got mine at 3k @24dB/oct and that's what I used (more or less) back in 2008, sounds the same. Got that nice heft to it that I'm used to.

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I will tell you from first hand experience China companies will clone almost anything! It amazes me what all they clone. From the smallest electronic parts to food products to the largest construction cranes.

This is why I can't bring myself to buy any speakers not directly from Crutchfield or directly from the manufacture.
I'm aware,trillion dollars theft operations.
Every product not sold by legitimate channels are,despite what "heft"it has.
Some virtually impossible to distinguish but still fakes.

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Victor, damn man...

If you have no dog in this fight, why are you still doing this? Same shit as before.

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It bothered me that you do, compromising your integrity.
You vouch for questionable source drivers like you know something we dont.

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Victor, damn man...

If you have no dog in this fight, why are you still doing this? Same shit as before.

Done, you guys carry on. unsub
woah woah cmon man dont be so sensitive. i know its frustrating but you can ignore members (last i checked we had that option on this forum?)

i bought a pair, my only concern is i messaged him twice and yet to get a reply...
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Default Re: Hot eBay deal - Alpine SPX PRO tweeters

If Victor wants to send me a pair of these "questionable" drivers for a physical and measured comparison, I've still got a few pairs of the original Alpine SPX-PRO Tweeters (one pair is from an actual full set of the SPX-17PRO components, and the other set is from PacParts.)?

fourthmeal's post #57 pretty much satisfies my doubts. I think that they are legit drivers. If performance is equal or better than the "originals", does it really matter?

For about the same price, you guys might want to consider Nick's (SI) M25 tweeters as well.

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If Victor wants to send me a pair of these "questionable" drivers for a physical and measured comparison, I've still got a few pairs of the original Alpine SPX-PRO Tweeters (one pair is from an actual full set of the SPX-17PRO components, and the other set is from PacParts.)?

fourthmeal's post #57 pretty much satisfies my doubts that they are not legit drivers. If performance is equal or better than the "originals", does it really matter?

For about the same price, you might want to consider Nick's (SI) tweeters instead.
I would but I won`t buy them. I know enough to avoid questionable sources.
Not everything's about money, well, not to me.
and yes I bought Nick`s tweeters and I`m sure as hell they perform better.
I`ve seen so many fakes and none perform better than originals they`ve been stolen from. Focals, Hertz to name a few.

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I would but I won`t buy them. I know enough to avoid questionable sources.
Not everything's about money, well, not to me.
and yes I bought Nick`s tweeters and I`m sure as hell they perform better.
I`ve seen so many fakes and none perform better than originals they`ve been solen from. Focals, Hertz to name a few.
Awesome. Now mount Nick's tweeter in a space that will only accommodate 2" in diameter or 1" in depth.


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Sounds about right

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If Victor wants to send me a pair of these "questionable" drivers for a physical and measured comparison, I've still got a few pairs of the original Alpine SPX-PRO Tweeters (one pair is from an actual full set of the SPX-17PRO components, and the other set is from PacParts.)?

fourthmeal's post #57 pretty much satisfies my doubts. I think that they are legit drivers. If performance is equal or better than the "originals", does it really matter?

For about the same price, you guys might want to consider Nick's (SI) M25 tweeters as well.
You think you can post some close up pictures to show you original SPX-17PRO tweeters?
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Sounds about right

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How 'bout that flange.
it`s one solid piece-non removable.
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You guys are getting suckered if you really believe those are Vifa speakers from an old alpine set...or even related.
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if any of you guys have a woofer tester or DATS it's a VERY simple process to determine if the eBay tweeters are the real deal. Just sweep the known good one vs any of the others and they should match. if they don't, then you know they're not legit. It's literally a 30 second solution.

if it really matters, I can do it for you. but I'd have to have them shipped to me and someone cover return shipping.

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it`s one solid piece-non removable.
Oh it's removable alright might not not look pretty when done though. Grinder? lol
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...if it really matters, I can do it for you. but I'd have to have them shipped to me and someone cover return shipping.
Though I don;t have these tweeters, if anyone wants to send Erin theirs original and these ebay ones, I'd certainly chip in 5 or 10 bucks towards shipping and return shipping just to find out if these ARE in fact legit.

That being said, my guess, after reading through his other lisitngs and based on the his repeated claim that they are all made by one of China's "premier speaker manufacturers" that also make the likes of Jamo drivers etc, that all speaker lsitings are factory seconds or factory overruns and that he has a freind or connection at the factory and they MIGHT well be legit. But that is ONLY a guess and for 5 or 10 paypal friend bucks I'd help end the guessing and find out for sure.

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I would put in $5, my curiosity is piqued.


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Awesome...anyone else...howzabout you Victor, $5 in the pot??
I wasn` sucked in that, no reason for me to verify illegitimacy of those drivers.
I believe those who bought them should be interested in this test.
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