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Does this work with DSP pro? I figure they've changed it by now.
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Default Re: How to make your own Remote Controller for Helix and Brax DSPs

This is the next thing I have to build :-) a couple of the last posts here are using the mini din plug and it should work with the DSP pro.

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This is the next thing I have to build :-) a couple of the last posts here are using the mini din plug and it should work with the DSP pro.

You ever give this a shot? How'd it work out. Gonna try this with my Pro. Thinking of taking apart my URC-2a and making it less ugly
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You ever give this a shot? How'd it work out. Gonna try this with my Pro. Thinking of taking apart my URC-2a and making it less ugly

I haven't yet... I'm still using my URC also. I'd consider taking mine apart too but I'd like to really have a metal knob that sticks out a little more rather then a thumb wheel
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Cool, thanks for the response. I'm with you on the knobs, I got some aluminum ones Ima try. Let you all know how it turns out.

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Hey ! Thanks for all the info iv got so far. But i still have one problem with soldering the connector. Its round 8 pin mini-din, abd looks like this =

i.imgur.com/jQOh4Tt.jpg

Buy how should i solder one wire into shell (for ground)? Tin doesnt stay on that coated shell...
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I ordered a Director... Any idea if I can have a potentiometer within arms reach for system volume control and put the director say in my sun glasses holder and just use it for input changes?
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Default Re: How to make your own Remote Controller for Helix and Brax DSPs

I wanted to say thank you to this group for all of the good information about this unit, and to give an update.

I have the Helix DSP Pro, and the information is accurate for the pinout as of this posting.

I'm using a digital potentiometer to control the Helix, and in my findings, 10k just isn't enough. Even at 0 which reads about 9.5k on the multimeter, signal is still passed over the RCA from low to high. In order to get the volume to totally stop I had to have a resistance of 55.7k.

In my findings, the basic steps are 55k, 53k, 37k, 25k and then every ~407 ohms from 25k up to 300 ohms has a noted increase in volume. My source unit only has 64 steps so its possible the increments are even smaller than 407 per step but thats roughly 1db when measured with my SPL meter.

If you use an analog potentiometer this might not be an issue if it goes to a complete circuit disconnect at 0.

I hope this helps someone else. I had to combine a 10k and 50k to get this working.

It would be MIGHTY helpful if anyone knows the DIGITAL control and not the analog one. I cant believe the Director unit is using the analog like the small remote does.
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Installing my DSP Pro today.

What type of connector do I need to connect to the processor?

Also what type of switch do I use if I want to be able to toggle between the two presets? I am assuming a toggle switch would not work, correct?
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Installing my DSP Pro today.

What type of connector do I need to connect to the processor?

Also what type of switch do I use if I want to be able to toggle between the two presets? I am assuming a toggle switch would not work, correct?
Looks like an 8-pin mini din connector such as this recepticle I saw on pg1 that looks like the port on the DSP:


Maybe something like this:
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...nf1nHYLQ%3d%3d

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Default Re: How to make your own Remote Controller for Helix and Brax DSPs

Thanks Scott.



I'm looking to use an Alps Blue Velvet like Erin had in his car for volume control. I believe I need a 10k linear. Would this be the correct type?

ALPS RK27112 Potentiometer 10K ohm linear B taper pot RK27112A005N RK27 10KBx2 | eBay
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Here's my version, with just a bit more info since I took my URC apart.
The bi-colour LED is only necessary if you're using a pushbutton switch that doesn't give any indication as to which state it's in (ie. in/out), but if you use a toggle or rocker switch then you don't need it (unless you like more lights!)

I found the connector at Newark Electronics, their part # 97K5346. $3 - so buy a couple - the pins are tiny and the ABS can melt if you don't solder quickly.

Can someone give me some guidance on this please?

I want to control volume only and be able to switch between the 2 presets on the DSP Pro.

I'll have an Alps pot in my possession tomorrow. I need to order a switch. If I am reading this correctly I need a DPDT switch, correct? Does it need to be a rocker/toggle type switch or can it me a momentary switch? I am having trouble finding a DPDT switch that is small enough and does not looks like ass. SPDT switches seem to be super easy to find and look nice, DPDT not so much.

It shouldn't matter if there is no second pot, correct?

I would like to have the parts I need ordered by Monday so I can have them by the end of the week and get this built and functional.

Thanks in advance!
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Any reason you can't use a joycon to do this for steering wheel controls? Does it have to be a dial that has physical 0 - 100 rotational limits or can it be used for a jog dial that rotates infinitely.

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Neat idea. I think I may try this. Thanks for all the posts!
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Thanks Scott.



I'm looking to use an Alps Blue Velvet like Erin had in his car for volume control. I believe I need a 10k linear. Would this be the correct type?

ALPS RK27112 Potentiometer 10K ohm linear B taper pot RK27112A005N RK27 10KBx2 | eBay

Hey! I'm about to build one of these so I will put together a parts list and build log to share with everyone.

To resurrect your question... I would not buy that pot. Briefly glancing over the schematic it looks like you only need a single gang pot (unless you are going push pull). I also think that is way overpriced. I'd probably go with something like this. Alpha makes good pots.

Alpha Single-Gang 16mm, Solder Terms, Linear & Audio Taper - Small Bear Electronics


I build guitar pedals as a hobby. Mouser is a great place to find parts but for small builds like this, sometimes a supplier like smallbear is a better route.

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I just built one of these for my DSP.2 and I was wondering if anyone had tried using two 20k pots instead of the 10k. I tested it at first with just a single 10k pot, which worked fine, but I didn't pay close attention to the volume range. Following the schematic, the two pots are in parallel so it cuts the resistance in half giving a range between 0 - ~5k. I didn't know if you would get more volume steps using two 20k pots instead. I think I have some, so I will probably give it a try. I'm going to make an enclosure with my 3D printer and I will post my build when it is completed.
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I just finished my build, it cost me around $30, but some of the parts could have been gotten for cheaper. It seems to be working fine with the 10k pots, so I will just be using those. Here are the files for my 3D printed enclosure: Helix DSP.2 DIY Remote Enclosure.
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^^^

Nice job! Our 3D printer has been a great tool for things like this... Once we got it to work consistently Your layers look consistent.
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Looks like Helix themselves have seen this, as their URC.3 looks rather similar.

I have one and like the simplicity over the Director (which I also have) but, the knobs are just too damn small a diameter on the HRC.3.

Despite being a nice solid feel and metal, it is just too fiddly to use. I'm now going to take it apart and see if I can piggy back onto the connections for one of the pots and make my own with a larger better placed seperate volume 'knob', then hide the rest of the URC for switching duties.

Failing that, I'll mate into the RJ connector on the back and make my own complete unit.
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Looks like Helix themselves have seen this, as their URC.3 looks rather similar.

I have one and like the simplicity over the Director (which I also have) but, the knobs are just too damn small a diameter on the HRC.3.

Despite being a nice solid feel and metal, it is just too fiddly to use. I'm now going to take it apart and see if I can piggy back onto the connections for one of the pots and make my own with a larger better placed seperate volume 'knob', then hide the rest of the URC for switching duties.

Failing that, I'll mate into the RJ connector on the back and make my own complete unit.
I based my design on the URC.3, I ordered similar knobs to it as well, but ultimately decided on the larger knobs. Depending on the length of the pots in the URC.3, you may be able to just replace the knob, but a larger one might cover the switch. I imagine you can add your own pot to it, but just be aware that it will change the resistance if you don't bypass the original.
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Hello


Here's the schematic (from Audiotec-Fischer) useful for makin your own remote controller compatible with the DSP's from Helix


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Default Re: How to make your own Remote Controller for Helix and Brax DSPs

Anybody know which resistor value for the LED ground is correct here? The parts list uses a value of 120 ohms while the schematic reads 220 ohms.

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Anybody know which resistor value for the LED ground is correct here? The parts list uses a value of 120 ohms while the schematic reads 220 ohms.

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I don't know which is correct. I never noticed there were different values listed so I used the 220 ohm from the schematic. FWIW I have been using the 220 ohm with no issues since last March.
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I don't know which is correct. I never noticed there were different values listed so I used the 220 ohm from the schematic. FWIW I have been using the 220 ohm with no issues since last March.
Thanks for that Salami - 220 it is
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