Since when was Phonix Gold a hi-end brand for them to try to retail a sub over 800.00?? I know the old school PG was top notch, but the new stuff is pretty much crap and by looking at that sub am proven right. Sorry guys but thats just my opinion.
And am sure you can find them for less than 300 brand new.
What was said earlier is absolutely true....bigger box for the TI will do wonders. The JL in that boxy is going to lend itself to the booty side (gotta member the market for that setup in a shop a smaller box (although just slightly) will fix some of the complaints. They are great sub as well!
the ultimo's are nice but never "wowed" me?