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Old 03-31-2012   #176
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Default Re: IN MY CAR TEST: Jl 12w7 vs Morel Ultimo 12 SC vs Phoenix Gold Ti12d Elite!

Thanks to the OP and all contributers to this thread. Special thanks to FartnInTheTub - I cannot remember when I last laughed so hard - I've been through some tough times lately, and this has been VERY therapeutic.

Most of all, it has given even more weight to what has been a growing suspicion - I suspect that many people regard an SQ sub to be one without much low end bass and lots of midbass. Failing to reproduce the low end bass allows the detail of the midbass to be heard more clearly and hence the sub is considered to be more detailed (although in reality it is just missing the low end detail!)

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i dont really know if i want a SQ sub or an SPL one. the above comment has made me consider an SPL one. i dont need huge ground shaking bass, but i dont want a quiet sub either.

By the way, reading this post the optimal sealed enclosure size people are going for is 1.25cu ft. why is this? the manual states the 0.998cu ft is the optimal.
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i dont really know if i want a SQ sub or an SPL one. the above comment has made me consider an SPL one. i dont need huge ground shaking bass, but i dont want a quiet sub either.

By the way, reading this post the optimal sealed enclosure size people are going for is 1.25cu ft. why is this? the manual states the 0.998cu ft is the optimal.
all companies make a "generic" for the mass public size optimal box, my JBL GTI 10's are listed at .75cuft, too punchy at that size box, i use them in a 1 cuft sealed box and get better extention / lows.

The larger a sealed box is, the lower the sub will play, but the less power it will handle. The smaller a sealed box is,
the higher the frequency the sub will play, and the more power it will handle.
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Default Re: IN MY CAR TEST: Jl 12w7 vs Morel Ultimo 12 SC vs Phoenix Gold Ti12d Elite!

I still remember running a small PG Ti 10 (non elite, didn't like the cone lights). I got it for $80 brand new shipped off ebay or something about 10 years ago and ran it with 500rms forever. Very nice sub and I ended up giving it to my little brother who's had it in his BMW for a couple of years and it's still banging...
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Awesome review, love my pg ti12. My favorite sub I've ever used nothing comes close imo

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Default Re: IN MY CAR TEST: Jl 12w7 vs Morel Ultimo 12 SC vs Phoenix Gold Ti12d Elite!

Hello people,
I'm thinking of getting the UltimoSC 12" for my car and not sure about what size sealed enclosure - the manual suggests 1.94 Cu Ft is optimal, but I'm metric and lost, can someone share some guidance on what type of sealed box I need?

Ideally external dimensions in cm - does it need to be a perfect square? I see some boxes with an angle on the back... Ideally I'd prefer the smallest possible but I understand a bigger than minimum has it's advantages.

Thank you!
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I also heard the Ultimo SC 12" is slightly smaller in diameter compared to normal 12" subs so doesn't fit generic 12" sealed enclosures, is this correct?
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Someone needs to bump the new peerless sub i bet it will outperform all these for less money
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Hello people,
I'm thinking of getting the UltimoSC 12" for my car and not sure about what size sealed enclosure - the manual suggests 1.94 Cu Ft is optimal, but I'm metric and lost, can someone share some guidance on what type of sealed box I need?

Ideally external dimensions in cm - does it need to be a perfect square? I see some boxes with an angle on the back... Ideally I'd prefer the smallest possible but I understand a bigger than minimum has it's advantages.

Thank you!
Actually I thought it suggested 0.94 cubic feet. General usage-based recommendations suggest 1.3-1.4 cuft.
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Default Re: IN MY CAR TEST: Jl 12w7 vs Morel Ultimo 12 SC vs Phoenix Gold Ti12d Elite!

Thanks, I'm basing this info on this graph from the Ultimo SC 12" manual:



Showing sealed and ported volumes.
That's how I understand it...?
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Default Re: IN MY CAR TEST: Jl 12w7 vs Morel Ultimo 12 SC vs Phoenix Gold Ti12d Elite!

That's the Titanium SC, not the SC 12. If you're looking at the Titanium SC's then they recommend 0.706 cuft - 1.76 cuft. I'd still feel good about 1.3-1.4cuft.

Manual (look at page 4): https://www.morelhifi.com/wp-content...al-for-web.pdf
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This old thread is from 2011.
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He resurrected it so I figured I'd at least try to be useful
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Default Re: IN MY CAR TEST: Jl 12w7 vs Morel Ultimo 12 SC vs Phoenix Gold Ti12d Elite!

I had the cheaper of the morel 12in sub in the suggested enclosure of less then 1 cu ft and didnít like the sound of it. I had a local shop make the enclosure, which was fiberglass and was made it smaller then I asked (I do not know how to do fiberglass work). I am sure it sounds awesome in a larger then suggested box, I to a hybrid Claris 10 which sounded better in the 1cu ft enclosure
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I had the cheaper of the morel 12in sub in the suggested enclosure of less then 1 cu ft and didnít like the sound of it. I had a local shop make the enclosure, which was fiberglass and was made it smaller then I asked (I do not know how to do fiberglass work). I am sure it sounds awesome in a larger then suggested box, I to a hybrid Claris 10 which sounded better in the 1cu ft enclosure
This is what've I've consistently heard too. They seem to like 1.3-1.4 cuft.
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Default Re: IN MY CAR TEST: Jl 12w7 vs Morel Ultimo 12 SC vs Phoenix Gold Ti12d Elite!

Thanks people,
I ordered a 1.6 cuft enclosure for the Ultimo SC 12" - I wonder if its too much now? Should I add some fill?

What does it mean that a larger enclosure limits power handling? I want to power it with two channels of a Mosconi AS 200.4 - generating 640W @4Ohm (the sub is 4 Ohm).

Lastly, how high do you set your HPF for this sub, is 100hz too much?

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