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What's the mounting diameter? (please let it be under 5.5")
SB acoustics most probably use the same frame as on their other 4 & 5 inch drivers.





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I was asking about the 6"

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Black 1
Outer Diameter : 2.5" (with plastic mounting ring)
Outer Diameter : 1 7/8" (without plastic mounting ring)

Black 4
Outer Diameter : 4 13/16"
Inner Diameter : 3.75"

Black 6
Outer Diameter : 6 11/16"
Inner Diameter : 5 9/16"

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I want that tweeter. It looks a lot like the scan d2904.

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Guys I played with the SB acoustics 6" vs the ARC blacks and they are very different the 1st thing I noticed was the surrounds and cones. The SB surround was very soft and light. The ARC Black is much more robust and strong more like a woofer. Same goes for the cones the ARC's are just beefier !

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Not surprising. The specs show a higher MMS, and papyrus... rolling papyrus isn't generally the best material for the auto environment.



Perhaps they're treated papyrus? What's it look like it's made of?


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I am gonna order a set soon and play with it I have high hopes for this set and should fill a niche in my line up

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I'm ordering mine this week! Lol
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does anyone have Fs for the 1.0? I'm tweeter shopping and Lee mentioned the flange is removable. That makes them about 1.875" OD. Might work for me.

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does anyone have Fs for the 1.0? I'm tweeter shopping and Lee mentioned the flange is removable. That makes them about 1.875" OD. Might work for me.
I could call tomorrow and find out. Or you can mail me a WT3 and I could check that way....lol.

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does anyone have Fs for the 1.0? I'm tweeter shopping and Lee mentioned the flange is removable. That makes them about 1.875" OD. Might work for me.
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What ever happened with this? How did everything sound?

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Well i just got my 2nd black 12 installed and about an hour of listening whilst breaking in. I must say ARC you have a new fan boy.. My god these things sound good! Going from 2 idq12v3 the bass is every bit as fast while sounding deeper, more full, totally controlled, they blend seamlessly with my JBl 608gti's even if i turn my head and look out the pass seat window the bass sounds like its coming from the mids in the doors. btw the 2 subs are in a sealed box .9 on each side stuffed with 3/4lb poly fill behind the rear seat of my crew cab f250. they sound prefectly flat, GET LOW as hell without any mechanical noise unlike the idq's. Play the upper frequency's with ease. Now with the 2nd one the Punch is there.. Thats the only thing i missed about the 2 idq's to the single 12 was the punch of the higher bass freq's. not no more.. these things have exceeded my expectations all the way around and i can finally say im satisfied! At least with my substage.. Oh im using a rockford t1500bdcp at 1ohm so +/- 1700 watts crossed at 80hz 18db and these babys love it!


The only thing is i wish i got dual 2 ohm's so i could run them at 2ohm for the same power the t1500. i could run them at 4ohm but they would only be getting 1100 to the pair and these really like closer to 1000 a piece. Thats also what fred and brad from arc said as well.

There not cheap but worth every penny.. id say there close to the sound of a w6 (sealed in about 1.2-1.3) but sound a smidge less fat on the bottom end with more upper punch. totally clean and controlled. This is the subs i was looking for when i posted this and now i have it! https://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/...ar-jlw6v2.html

how the hell did you get these behind the seats of a crew cab f250? please post up some pics. i really want to give this a shot but always thought i had to have shallow mouts behind the seats.
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Took the back seat out and adjusted the bracket that holds it to the floor to move the seat forward about 1.5" inches and up about a .75" (using plywood then aluminum spacers). Ended up having room for a wedge box about 9.5" wide at the bottom and 4.75" wide at the top and upto 60" long and 17" high. Would fit about a 6" deep sub.

Also I have an 02 which has a lot more room behind there then the newer superdutys.
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Those are beautiful.

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Hello All,

I thought maybe this would be a good thread to write down a short review about the ARC BLACK 10 D4 for which I am a proud owner of for the last few months (ever since the begining of OCT 2015 to be more exact).

I've replaced my car, baught my dad's Subaru Legacy 2010 2.0 petrol and had to reinstall my audio system but I was looking at the same time for a smaller sub woofer to spare some more free space at the trunk do to the fact that kid version 2.0 is about to be born soon

This would be a bit funny as my sub woofer is a JL 8W7 in a 35 lit. seald enclosure and I actually moved to a 10 inch sub in a 0.8cf sealed inclosure which makes it look like a baby sub infront of JL's W7 true "baby monster" 8W7 - take a look at these pictures to get the grasp of the major difference:



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But why from all the possible subs in the world, especially when now there is such a hipe about the SI mark 4 shallow subwoofer lines which has a bigger diamater in an even smaller enclosure?

Why not going for other vendors for example a DLS Nordica 10 SQ? SEAS Lotus? the new Hertz Mille Legend which is so tech advanced and promissing?
And so on and so on - so, why BLACK?

To be honest both the Hertz dealer and the ARC dealers out here in Israel are good friends of mine, I've thought about the Mille to begin with but they are just not available yet and as well I am still a bit concerned about a 700Watt subwoofer and especially when half of its coil is air cooled! on a Mono channel that can provide 600W 4Ohms loaded in a Full-DA system on a stock electric system.

I've decided to go on the more modest option which is the ARC BLACK.

To put the perspective - at which kind of Audio system this subwoofer is being installed at:

Vehicle - Subaru Legacy 2010 2.0 stock electric system.
HU - Nexus 7 tablet -> OTG (no charging, not needed, small country) -> USB HUB -> SSD 240GB -> HiFiMeDIY USB SABRE DAC to optic converter
DSP -> Audison BIT ONE using the optic digital input.
AMPS -> Audison Voce 5.1HD (Bit IN unit Embeded)
SSI (cheap 2CH for rear speakers)
Speakers -> TW - HAT L1 8ohms on custom xover.
-> MD - CDT ES-02 which are about to be replaced by Morel CDM880 on custom xover.
-> WF - Morel Hybrid 602

-> Rear speakers - Pioneer TX-150s sealed 3way.

-> SW - Arc Audio Black 10 sealed 0.8cf

The entire car is sound proofed with Butil, Vynil, CCF etc etc - just no point starting with covering it all.


So - How does it sound?

Well - I looooved the 8W7 because it had such a strong punch and yet such a deep bass in to it - I called it "fatboy slim"

But there was something uncontrolable about the 8W7 when it really got power, it filled the entire car with bass and in dubstep music like it becomes a beast and not a technical SQish subwoofer I would have liked it to be but sure was bringing a lot of FUN in to the sound.

The BLACK -

First of all the looks of it - I don't think I would call it a rather "sexy" speaker, it is really a much more conservative design the way I see it.

The 8W7 was sexy!
An Audison Thesis Basso is SEXXXYYYY!
A Morel Ultimo is Sexy.

The BLACK, well - its just black! but yes - it makes you understand that you are dealing with a vendor which is NOT FOOLING AROUND - it makes you feel that they put the money where it really counts - AND THEY DID!

Knowing that the engineers that designed the Scan-Speak revalator (which I know how their 9inch sounded like and it was an AWESOME SQ sub - I had high expactations of it).

So again, HOW DOES IT SOUND?!?

I will begin with the cons -

I expected it to be driving a stronger punch, it does drive a rather strong punch but the 8W7 was a bit stronger than the BLACK though:

1. I am compairing a SQL sub to a SQ sub - apples to oranges somewhat.
2. The 8W7 is in a MUCH bigger enclosure and has a smaller diamater - no fair!

But this is the only con I can possibly think about and how am I going to address this? I am going to buy ANOTHER ARC BLACK - this is how good it is, so now I will list its good features.

The good side of the dark side of the black:

1. It is BLACK! - yes, does not steal the eye of the beholder and does not attract unwanted attention to it.

2. Small enclosure and small weight - very important if you have baby carts to put in to the trunk and very importent for those who wish to keep the added weight as small as possible.

SOUND

Well - It really has that Scan-Speak nature in it -

The bass volume (not as in decibels but just how it fill in the car with bass) is out of this earth!

It goes loooow and yet at the same time it stays fully focused on the car's front end and contained there.

It is extreemly accurate and tonal and it does drive a good punch even though I would appreciate a little bit more punch to it - for example - a DLS KW10 drives a much harder punch but does not go low any where near the BLACK.

And as much as it goes low it does it makes it sound as if it is a pure extension of the woofers which in my case are Morel's and they are known for being very bass pleasant speakers.

Example - Chris Jones - long after you're gone

The bass guitar in most cars I've listened to this track - it really needs to have the suwoofer muted becuase the bass guitar just does not sound right, not real, too loud, too shaky - not with the BLACK!

It is to be honest the first subwoofer ever since my AuraSound NS513 that was capable of doing such reproduction!

To Sum it all up - to whom would I recommend it to?

SQL lovers? - NO!

I would say look at:
IDMAX, Ultimo, W6, W7, Nordica, Mille Legend

And if you do want the BLACK and get a good amount of SPL in it - put it in a 1cf enclosure and not the recommended 0.8cf!

Or heck - do what I am about to do - buy a dual sub!

SQ? Hell Yeah!

I would recommend it to people who are looking for a reall good, dammn real good "all arounder" that would give you extras, plenty of extra low end, out of this earth tonality and punctuality and yet still able to maintain a fair enough punch (but no more than that).

This sub is located in a very high position but for no doubt it has a LOT of major competitors and that makes a hard decision - give it a try, it is worth it.

Eddie

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Nice to read your review ,i'am going to order my tomorrow arc black 12D2.
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Nice review eddie, i read it on our local forum, but with the extra review and in english it even sound better, i think ill go with the 12" version, that will give me more spl just enough to get into the SQL court.
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