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JL HD
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JL HD
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They all sound the same.
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They all sound the same.


Hahhahahaha.....was just thinking the same thing!


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I hope the Soundstream Picasso Nanos sound good...I have two
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My track record isn't so good with the Alpine PDX series. Of course, YMMV, because I seem to have bad luck with car audio in general.

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I hope the Soundstream Picasso Nanos sound good...I have two
Not to stir the pot too much, but the OP listed a couple different quality levels of amplifiers. The Picasso Nanos don't reach the lowest quality level of the OP's listings. The Picasso Nanos are the same amp as the Power Acoustik Razors. I think there is a reason you don't see former or current Epsilon employees talking up the Picasso Nano/Razors on DIYMA.

As for how they sound... I'm not touching that one. Pulling up a seat...
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I hope the Soundstream Picasso Nanos sound good...I have two

As long as they sound good to you then that is all that matters.

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If you can opine on how they rate then you should be brave enough to detail how they subjectively sound in comparison to what they are being put up against in the list.

The thing about gear and what it's worth.... it's like housing. What it's value is only matters during resale. As long as the owner gets good use of it then all else has no weight.

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If you can opine on how they rate then you should be brave enough to detail how they subjectively sound in comparison to what they are being put up against in the list.

The thing about gear and what it's worth.... it's like housing. What it's value is only matters during resale. As long as the owner gets good use of it then all else has no weight.
I gave my opinion based on the information I had available to me. I've not heard one of them installed, and I haven't heard every single one of the amps in the OP. Mine was more a comment on build quality. Maybe I shouldn't have said anything and this should be strictly about the sound quality of the given amplifiers.

From what I gather there seems to be a general consensus that there is a threshold for a "quality" amplifier. And while it most certainly seems to vary based on perceived value, there are certainly brands and models that the majority attempt to steer people away from.

For the record, I would love for someone to prove how great an amp the Picasso Nanos are. If they are solid performers, they would be a steal at their price point and I'd probably throw one (or more) in the wife's car.
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I concur on the build quality, but at the same time you could take two even tiered amps and come up with one "sounding" better than the other. Now as to who has that final word.... the end user?

As to the Picasso, I definitely won't say it's built better, but until someone with some good "ears" gives it a whirl then who knows where it may sit. It's a shame Pasmag won't test more gear on the lower tiers.

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Not to go off on a complete tangent, but how legitimate are PASMAG's reviews, really? Have you ever heard a bad review from them? Sure, some products they obviously like more than others, but I have never seen a product reviewed negatively. I appreciate what they do, and I subscribe to their youtube channel, I'm just not so sure about their objectivity. At least we have the test reports when all is said and done.

Regardless of how "legitimate" the reviews are, I'm with you on wanting to see more gear tested. Really at all tiers. Heck, I would like to see some "Price Point Shootouts" to see who is the best bang for your buck at different tiers.
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Not to stir the pot too much, but the OP listed a couple different quality levels of amplifiers. The Picasso Nanos don't reach the lowest quality level of the OP's listings. The Picasso Nanos are the same amp as the Power Acoustik Razors. I think there is a reason you don't see former or current Epsilon employees talking up the Picasso Nano/Razors on DIYMA.

As for how they sound... I'm not touching that one. Pulling up a seat...
I'm hoping for the best. They are built in Korea, which is a good sign. I will definitely report back.
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Not to go off on a complete tangent, but how legitimate are PASMAG's reviews, really? Have you ever heard a bad review from them? Sure, some products they obviously like more than others, but I have never seen a product reviewed negatively. I appreciate what they do, and I subscribe to their youtube channel, I'm just not so sure about their objectivity. At least we have the test reports when all is said and done.

Regardless of how "legitimate" the reviews are, I'm with you on wanting to see more gear tested. Really at all tiers. Heck, I would like to see some "Price Point Shootouts" to see who is the best bang for your buck at different tiers.
That much is true. After all, one must question any other's listening test as I'm sure we all don't want to listen the same. I do find that part entertaining, but the main part are the bench tests which we don't even see on here. I'm actually surprised no one here has that with most of the masterminds. Perhaps it's very expensive or not worth it... I don't know, but it would be nice if it could be added.

Anyways, there have been a few bad reviews, but it's all in the graphs as they don't lie. For example look at the one on Audiopipe mini amps. Despite what was said, it was shown to be overrated if I can remember. Now does that make it useless? Not IMO. What it does is let's you know what you're really working with so you can properly accommodate it. And as you see they are being happily used by numerous people. Of course one could do much better.

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I'm hoping for the best. They are built in Korea, which is a good sign. I will definitely report back.
That's the general consensus that if they're built in Korea they're more than likely good, but I'm one to believe it's all in the company's hand. Working in a mill, I can tell you right now how sometimes corners are cut for the sake of production while other times QC is stringent enough that it will be produced as designed or else. With that I wouldn't say yay or nay. Just install them and see for yourself.

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I recently installed a Alpine PDX 9V in my WRX. Great amp, birth certificate shows 138 WRMS X 4 and 586 WRMS X 1. Alpine rates the amp at 100X4 and 500X1. No problems with noise are noted. The amp is very small and easy to install under the front seat. No overheating problems have been experienced.

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I recently installed a Alpine PDX 9V in my WRX. Great amp, birth certificate shows 138 WRMS X 4 and 586 WRMS X 1. Alpine rates the amp at 100X4 and 500X1. No problems with noise are noted. The amp is very small and easy to install under the front seat. No overheating problems have been experienced.
The PDX series are great amps. The PDX-V9 is the one I would have gone for if it was available when I was looking for small amps. I purchased the PDX-F6 and the PDX-M12 instead.

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I have two first gen pdx amps, a 4.150 and 600.1, and I abuse the hell out of both of them. I've mentioned this elsewhere but I literally have the 600.1 wedged under the back seat of my jetta. It gets no air flow and is essentially insulated by 4" of seat cushion foam. It has never protested though. I'm happy with the sound.
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Not to go off on a complete tangent, but how legitimate are PASMAG's reviews, really? Have you ever heard a bad review from them? Sure, some products they obviously like more than others, but I have never seen a product reviewed negatively. I appreciate what they do, and I subscribe to their youtube channel, I'm just not so sure about their objectivity. At least we have the test reports when all is said and done.

Regardless of how "legitimate" the reviews are, I'm with you on wanting to see more gear tested. Really at all tiers. Heck, I would like to see some "Price Point Shootouts" to see who is the best bang for your buck at different tiers.
Amen! I've been thinking this since I found pasrag online.
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PDX for the win.
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With the new Arc Audio XDI V2 amps, they are pretty hard to beat for the quality and size at that price point.

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I hear that the new RF T400x4AD sound pretty good.
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I've been having good luck with my xdi 1200.6. puts out good power. no issues with heat over long treks with the volume on 11...

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If anyone's heard the Zed Audio Leviathan and the Arc Audio Xdi 1200.6 v2 which one would you prefer in terms of their sonic characteristics? Can someone please shed some light on this?

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Alpine PDX because others have never tried
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