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Default PHD AF 6.1 MB Pro; My take on things

I have spent a few weeks with these wonderful speakers, and will be working on my full review over the next day or two. While I work on it, here's some pictures for you to enjoy;












I took lots of pictures because I wanted you to be able to see what I think is outstanding build quality.

Btw, if you want more information on these before I post my review, please direct all inquiries to Mike Allen [email protected]

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First things first; I was turned on to PHD by my friend, Geoff who in turn introduced me to Mike Allen, the US sales rep. I had a long conversation with Mike and we decided the component set you see here is what I would audition. Now, anybody involved in the selling end of the 12 volt industry has two very basic needs; Good product and product support. I won't name names, but I'm familiar with brands that don't always have both. However, in this case, Mike Allen and the wonderful company he represents have it in spades. So, thank you gentlemen, for allowing me this opportunity.
The car is your basic 2005 MINI Cooper S model. I cut out the rear fill a long time ago, as I found it to be unnecessary in such a small car. The speakers are set in stock locations;


I broke these speakers in with a Phoenix Gold MPS2500 and after they were nice and supple, I introduced them to my Orion HCCA 2100. Both very, very nice amps for your front end. But the amp I have running them now is a Sony XES M3. That one stays.


When the large glossy black box showed up in the mail, I was very excited. Normally, I record all of my openings (for posterity and proof), but this time I didn't care. I felt like a kid at Christmas. When I got the box open, I wasn't ready for what I found. I've run a lot of different speakers in my time but these were very different. They are visually striking, and the build quality is second to none. The mids are truly something to behold. The crossover is also very nice. I couldn't wait to get these in the car!
These almost didn't fit, but because I had modded my doors awhile back, thankfully they did. So let's fast forward through the break in period to right now; Alpine 9835, Sony M3, and the components.
One of the first tracks I listened to after I got everything fairly tuned to my liking was Journey's "Faithfully". I have never heard anything like that in my life, and was brought nearly to tears by the depth and breadth of Steve Perry's vocals. Makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. I listen to a variety of music and these speakers picked up everything. Every instrument, every sound, piano keys, guitar picks, etc. It's all there. These speakers took what I've been listening to for years and showed me something very different. I'm not very technical and neither is this review. But in the most basic terms, I can sum it up like this; I pulled my CDT ES620 Golds out of the car for these. And my whole listening world went from black and white to color.
There are those that will tell you "equipment is equipment". And to a point, I can agree. But I know something special when I hear it. I'm an old school guy, but unless I'm doing a period piece, I like to run newer speakers. After this audition I can say with confidence that this is the only new speaker I will buy.

Previous listening experiences include MB Quart, German Maestro, Diamond Hex, Focal Polyglass-Utopia, Morel, Dynaudio, HAT and more. <<Some I have owned, some were owned by friends. I haven't listened to everything out there, but to be completely re-invigorated at 41 means a lot to me.
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Default Re: PHD AF 6.1 MB Pro; My take on things

Great review and it has convinced me to pull my nib PHD AF 1.C tweeters out of the for sale forum. Now I just need to pick up another car to put these in. Too bad I'm not doing audio in my Ram....

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Those af 1c's are pretty nice as well

Glad to see people using quality drivers!

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Default Re: PHD AF 6.1 MB Pro; My take on things

I know people like pics to associate, so here's the Sony;



And I'd like to say, I'm not a "professional". I'm just an enthusiast who does his own installs. And I can't say that these are the best speakers out there. But these are assuredly the best I've listened to.
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I had the pleasure of listening to both Geoff's and Mike's cars a couple of weeks ago. They were both very good cars and very, very good people.

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I had the pleasure of listening to both Geoff's and Mike's cars a couple of weeks ago. They were both very good cars and very, very good people.
I wish I could hear their cars. Maybe next year. And yes, both are top notch guys!
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Is this set a new design for 2014....because they look a lot different (better in fact) than the ones ive seen before and on their site
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Is this set a new design for 2014....because they look a lot different (better in fact) than the ones ive seen before and on their site
The mids are brand spanking new, but I believe the tweets are last years model. I could be wrong though.

Speaking of tweets, these do not hurt my ears when I turn the volume up. I'm always having to crank my tweets down. Not this time.
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Those AF mids look very nice. Nice speakers, nice install. Glad you are pleased with them. I'm partial to them myself.

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Very nice review. Mike Allen is not the US Rep though, he is the US distributor. So he is the end point of all customer service. PM me if you want to know who the US rep is. We are trying to get our speakers in the hands of the novice, the amateur, as well as the pro, Thank you for your review sir!

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What's the US MSRP $ on this set?

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What's the US MSRP $ on this set?
This was a set put together for Jason, at the time he didn't want the af 1.c tweeter so we got him the af1.a which is much cheaper. Currently we are having a sale on all of our inventory, so we can bring in more items.

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Those pro mids look awesome!I would like to know about the entry level products and pricing
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Everyone is telling me to do audio in that especially since I average about 37,000 miles per year in it lol. Dealership is begging me to turn it in for a 2014, but I really like this one. Let me see if the wifey can handle the strain of being doing another audio build. She was sick to death about hearing the one in my legacy lol.

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I am currently running the 6.1 Pro and I really like them. I have the same 1.1 tweeter and it is nice and lively without being too harsh. I have to agree that these speakers are solid performers. To me they just have a well balanced sound and to me they deliver a very "Live" sound to them. I would love to try out the upgraded tweeter as I have heard nothing but great things about them. However, at the current time all my extra funds and time is going into restoring a car. I will certainly purchase more PHD in the future.

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I am currently running the 6.1 Pro and I really like them. I have the same 1.1 tweeter and it is nice and lively without being too harsh. I have to agree that these speakers are solid performers. To me they just have a well balanced sound and to me they deliver a very "Live" sound to them. I would love to try out the upgraded tweeter as I have heard nothing but great things about them. However, at the current time all my extra funds and time is going into restoring a car. I will certainly purchase more PHD in the future.
I greatly enjoyed the phd AF drivers over my HAT L1pro and L4se's. The phd's were more realistic, had lots of "life," and didn't have the sharp sound that the L4 SE did.

The af 4.1 and Af1.c tweeter were really great to listen to.

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This a great review of some killer product. Thanks for all your time and effort to help get the word out on products that are not in the main stream.
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