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Nice Raimonds!

Is there a connection for the ribbon cable of the preset switch on the outside of the enclosure?


-Steve
I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same as the APL1, where the ribbon cable is sandwiched between the lid and the rest of the case.

I do need to get more info from Raimonds about how to make a simple 2-tune switch from the ribbon cable.

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...I do need to get more info from Raimonds about how to make a simple 2-tune switch from the ribbon cable...
I'll get you started. I was going to do something similar, because when will I ever need 16 presets?

He sent me the pinout for the rotary knob. I haven't had a chance to take it past that, though.

His response about the pinout:

"Yes, you can use any multi-conductor cable and no need for shield.

Actually working wires are 5.

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Here is cable's pinout

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3 signal 2

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5 not in use

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How soon can we expect the car version of the APL1012 to be available for purchase? Any pricing yet?

Iím going back and forth between going with APL-1S unit or the Dirac DDRC 22D or DDRC 88a. This car version APL1012 seems to be the most ideal!!
It is available! Please make your offer : )

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Is there a connection for the ribbon cable of the preset switch on the outside of the enclosure?

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YES! You can see two mini XLRs on back panel. The 5 pin one is for preset switch. The 3 pin one is for remote volume control.

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I also noticed that there is no optical input?
The optical in is available on main PCB temporarily.

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APL1012 - Great device! Especially for those who will make 3-way active install. As I understood, appart from the preset switch, there is a separate volume control for the whole system. Or for subwoofer channel only?

Looking forward to install it in a new car.

Recently I have read an article by Chris Huff "Seven keys to making voices sound like you want them to sound" published in Church Sound 3/2018 and it reminded me some discussions about the target curve called mp1 from Rajmonds Scuruls.

Recommendations mentioned in this article are quite simple, but after their implementation, you will be surprised of how the shape of the final frequency response curve looks like. it is almost similar to the above mentioned target curve mp1. And it makes sense.

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I was planning to upgrade my processor and have finally decided to buy either APL1 or 1012. Already in conversation with Raimonds on the purchase.

I am in two minds...whether I should buy 3 units of Apl-1 or 1xAPL1012.

3xApl1 should give me more freedom of use. My existing processor is alpine pxa-h800 which can do active 3 way front+ sub and also multichannel 5.1 surround (2way front/centre/rear/sub)

Having three units of Apl-1 will give me 06 channels of analogue input and 6 on output. They can used in multichanel surround system also. 3xApl can be placed between pxa-h800 and the amps.

Similarly I can use them in my HT also for testing the differnce in sq. At least front/center/sub and a pair of surround out from my Av-processor can be processed for eq with Apl-1.

My current car setup is 3way active front + sub setup.
1xApl1 can be used for mid range + tweeter (with passive crossover)
1xApl1 can be used for midbass
1◊Apl1 for sub (or rears if I add later)
All 3 units can be placed between my existing dsp and amps. Crossover and Ta can be managed from the dsp.

1xAPL-1012 will give more control in a 3way active front + sub+rears.

Considing the flexibbility 3xapl1 will provide, will Apl-1012 provide any major noticeable benefits in sq?

Pls help me in deciding.

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I do - with foobar2000 in Windows and with Viper4a in Android OS. What is the question? Do you have some issues with it?
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I was just scanning this thread again because I'll be doing some more tuning soon. In the very first post there is a screen shot of Coneq PE1, and in that screenshot is the web address Coneq Out of curiosity I went there. I poked around on both branches of that site and was a surprised at how similar the software seemed to APL Workshop. Heck, the software for this hardware is even called Coneq Workshop!

As a Mac user, I was excited to see the Mac software, so I downloaded it. Unfortunately, I don't have a license key, and finding a way to get one is... Difficult. Hmmm.

So I continued to poke around on the site and found this: http://www.coneqpro.com/en/downloads...ologyshort.pdf
Read the History paragraph.

So now I have a couple questions for Raimonds:

1: Is Coneq Workshop compatible with the APL1?
2: If so, how do I get a license?
3: I got a warning about the software being old when I ran it on MacOS 10.13.4, have you ended development of it?

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Curious to get the end of this business story too, they have cool hardware and apparently use the same algorithm, but last time I tried when I had my apl was with no luck too.
But even if itís outdated and feature limited Iíd be interested.

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Both companies are built on Raimonds tech, I wonder why the split?

Not having to fire up Windows would be awfully nice, especially now that JL has MacOS software for TŁN.

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How do you like TŁN so far?
I only quickly played with it, and if it looked nice I was a bit perplex.
But it must the mini plugins habits, I canít see myself dropping the biquads and rew integration though.

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How do you like TŁN so far?
I only quickly played with it, and if it looked nice I was a bit perplex.
But it must the mini plugins habits, I canít see myself dropping the biquads and rew integration though.
At the moment, I'm not too happy with it, see here: https://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/...8-post231.html

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I was just scanning this thread again because I'll be doing some more tuning soon. In the very first post there is a screen shot of Coneq PE1, and in that screenshot is the web address Coneq Out of curiosity I went there. I poked around on both branches of that site and was a surprised at how similar the software seemed to APL Workshop. Heck, the software for this hardware is even called Coneq Workshop!

As a Mac user, I was excited to see the Mac software, so I downloaded it. Unfortunately, I don't have a license key, and finding a way to get one is... Difficult. Hmmm.

So I continued to poke around on the site and found this: http://www.coneqpro.com/en/downloads...ologyshort.pdf
Read the History paragraph.

So now I have a couple questions for Raimonds:

1: Is Coneq Workshop compatible with the APL1?
2: If so, how do I get a license?
3: I got a warning about the software being old when I ran it on MacOS 10.13.4, have you ended development of it?
Hi,
Everything mentioned is at least 10 years old and stolen in that time.
Therefore, no any kind of support ...
Real Sound Lab is dead for long years already. Thanks to enormous level of crime ...

Regarding working environment.
From time to time I am suggesting to add to your measurement mic and sound card a piece of hardware for about $100 with 4 core 1.8GHz processor, 4G RAM, HDMI, Ethernet, Wifi, 2 USB and W10.
It is taking 2Wats from 5V power supply ...
Its size is 12x12x2 cm
It is called mini PC

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Is there a happy owner of the APL1012 on this forum? Wondering to hear a little review and practical experience with it. Pros and cons if any.
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Is there a happy owner of the APL1012 on this forum? Wondering to hear a little review and practical experience with it. Pros and cons if any.
If you can wait a month or 3 then I will supply a review for you.


As far as the practical experience...

I have a new battery for the Mrs' MacBook-P, and I chucked in a new SSD into her windows work computer, so I have been going slow on the S/W front.
(Job 1 is to get S/W installed under the parallels VM)

But these things are the same for most tuning S/W that are windows based.
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Is there a happy owner of the APL1012 on this forum? Wondering to hear a little review and practical experience with it. Pros and cons if any.
We should get feedback soon >
https://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/...-build-17.html

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Yep, been a little busy. Review is 90% done, should be posted in coming days. Itís a very interesting unit...

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Waiting on one to get here...I hope I can figure it out and love it.
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Here's a review of the new 1012 unit if you missed it:

APL 1012 DSP

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Is there a happy owner of the APL1012 on this forum? Wondering to hear a little review and practical experience with it. Pros and cons if any.
I have a unit but have been using it as a desktop 2.2 system. It was meant to replace my apl1 and audison bit one HD. But I ran into space issue due to the size of the unit.

I also just completed the install of my sub in my trunk. Hopefully i can look into integrating the unit into my car soon.

In my desktop, just using it for the crossovers without measurement. It has sounded great. Probably the crossovers. Just sounds clean compared to LR24 crossovers. Just got my replacement mic so hopefully can run it with some measurements to see how it does in my desktop.
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Dear Friends,
I must announce that the update of Windows 10 called "2018 April" is not supporting drivers of APL. It is just one Windows version that is known as not supporting.
May be it is because of fact that mentioned update is too much fresh and issue will be fixed.
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I must announce that the update of Windows 10 called "2018 April" is not supporting drivers of APL. It is just one Windows version that is known as not supporting.
May be it is because of fact that mentioned update is too much fresh and issue will be fixed.
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Hi Raimonds,

I am happy to report that the latest one June 2018 feature upgrade supports APL drivers again.
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Since this is the main thread with a huge collection of APL related knowledge, i decided to post my question here.

If one wants to get the best sounding two-seat tune possible, that is, a tune allowing both listeners to enjoy relatively nice FR and image, how would one perform the measurements? Once at drivers seat and then at passenger's?

How one should setup the time alignment? Set in between the headrests of two seats?
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Since this is the main thread with a huge collection of APL related knowledge, i decided to post my question here.

If one wants to get the best sounding two-seat tune possible, that is, a tune allowing both listeners to enjoy relatively nice FR and image, how would one perform the measurements? Once at drivers seat and then at passenger's?

How one should setup the time alignment? Set in between the headrests of two seats?
Using the apl-technology you must use the whole volume of the cabin except 10-15cm from all the surfaces painting some curves with a mic., despite you are measuring for left or right channel.
Time alignment is necessary to obtain a perfect sound imaging.
For two persons it is not achievable. It will always be a compromise.
Try to use the same time delays for a driver and passanger seat.

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