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This is more of a "Hey go check this speaker out!!" than a review.

I am testing about 15 pairs of 3" midrange drivers. I listened and measured just about all of them now and I want to bring to light a true outlier, the Dayton Audio PS95-8. The overall clarity and response is outstanding! For the minimal cost of these speakers anybody in the market for a 3" driver should pick these up. FYI I have not tested any other 3" driver that has better high frequency extension.

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Very nice. I may have to give those a try.

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I'd definitely recommend them in the appropriate install.
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Impressive considering they are 8ohm vs. the 4ohm drivers. The output is actually better down low and up high. Cool
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Default Re: Dayton Audio RS100-4, PS95-8 and HAT L3V2

I wonder how the PS95-8 would do in a column array - 6-8 in a row. I wonder how much air space they would need.
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Impressive considering they are 8ohm vs. the 4ohm drivers. The output is actually better down low and up high. Cool
All of the 8hm drivers I have have a higher sensitivy than the 4ohm drivers, which can be heard.

BTW they handled 80 wrms from my test amp in an open baffle no problem.

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I wonder how the PS95-8 would do in a column array - 6-8 in a row. I wonder how much air space they would need.
I don't think they were designed for an array but give it a try.
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It's nice to have another option in this size.

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Default Re: Dayton Audio RS100-4, PS95-8 and HAT L3V2

Nice, I've read good things about both the RS100 and the PS95 on other forums. I actually just used the RS100-8 recently in a home audio setup with great results.

What were they mounted on/in and are these on-axis measurements?
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Nice, I've read good things about both the RS100 and the PS95 on other forums. I actually just used the RS100-8 recently in a home audio setup with great results.

What were they mounted on/in and are these on-axis measurements?
They were mounted on an open baffle. The measurements were taken 3" from the cone. I did not calibrate my mic for SPL. Soundcard is calibrated though.

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If anybody sees fault in my measurements let me know. I certainly do not know it all when it comes to taking RTA measurements and I will gladly taek advice.

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Default Re: Dayton Audio RS100-4, PS95-8 and HAT L3V2

Any distortion plots? Spl is one thing, but if that Spl comes from higher distortion levels, then that is part of the equation. Polars would be nice too.

Thanks for the measurements. It takes effort to do this kind of stuff and it is always welcomed by me.
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Any distortion plots? Spl is one thing, but if that Spl comes from higher distortion levels, then that is part of the equation. Polars would be nice too.

Thanks for the measurements. It takes effort to do this kind of stuff and it is always welcomed by me.
I've ever done either of those tests. Give me a while to research it and I'll post them.
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Good to hear since i just ordered a pair yesterday. Ill be running a pair in stock locations in the dash.
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Good to hear since i just ordered a pair yesterday. Ill be running a pair in stock locations in the dash.
Please comment in this thread once you have them installed and demoed them!

They are fairly heavy for their size. The motor structure is almost the same size as the RS100-4. Mounting flange is a tad smaller than the RS100-4. Leaps and bounds above the RS100-4 in overall music clarity.
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Please comment in this thread once you have them installed and demoed them!

They are fairly heavy for their size. The motor structure is almost the same size as the RS100-4. Mounting flange is a tad smaller than the RS100-4. Leaps and bounds above the RS100-4 in overall music clarity.
I definitely will. I currently have the rs-180 7s (paper) in the doors and the dayton rs28s tweets in the dash.

I also have a set of the dayton reference 4s (paper) and a pair of the dayton amt mini tweets that I have to play with. Processing power is holding me back on trying those other speakers out. I'm hoping this full range driver will work well for the time being.
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Default Re: Dayton Audio RS100-4, PS95-8 and HAT L3V2

just bought the rs125-p and was playing around with it, but definitely interested in a further review of the ps95-8 as i almost snagged it as well.

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I have those PS95s and I wonder how would paper RS100 would stack up against it or RS75 for that matter. Looking for a tad more detailed sound I guess.
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I'll be installing mine today after work. Currently have the RS100-4p installed in the dash.

Mless, where are your mids installed?
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Mless, where are your mids installed?
In the kicks pointing to the back of the radio.
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I have those PS95s and I wonder how would paper RS100 would stack up against it or RS75 for that matter. Looking for a tad more detailed sound I guess.
You are looking for a more detailed sound than the PS95? I find it hard to achieve any more detail ( referring to FR) from a single speaker.
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So after a little experimenting with the Dayton full range 3 1/2s , i decided to go back to the dayton rs100s.

In my application with the mids in the dash firing towards the windshield, the rs100s just sound much better and they're much easier to tame. With my limited dsp, i just couldn't get the fullrange daytons to sound good. They have plenty of detail but I just couldn't eq them in the high midrange (between 1kh-8khz) enough to tame them down a bit.

The rs100Ps are great and although they can't extend as high as the fullrangers they still sound great and give plenty of detail, while also playing lower. I plan on getting a processor and mounting some tweeters in the a-pillars sometime soon to help out the RS100p that last bit in the 10khz-20khz range.





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You may have sold me on the Dayton Audio PS95-8
How would it compare to the aluminum cone RS100? Does it come in 4ohm also?

edit; Also looks like the PS95 is outta stock all about?
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They were mounted on an open baffle. The measurements were taken 3" from the cone. I did not calibrate my mic for SPL. Soundcard is calibrated though.


If anybody sees fault in my measurements let me know. I certainly do not know it all when it comes to taking RTA measurements and I will gladly taek advice.

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Thanks for the info on that little driver! Here's some tips to help you get more accurate measurements.

You need to measure far field to see accurate high frequency content. At 3" from the cone, your data is only accurate up to about 1k. That's probably why the responses slope down so much. I'd try around 20". I believe the rule is 5 times cone diameter.

You'll likely want to gate out room reflections when taking farfield measurements. Look at the impulse response to see the first room refection and create a window below that. usually around 3.5ms indoors.

Set smoothing at 1/12 or 1/24. That should give good resolution.

Make graphs 5db scale.

Your measurement baffle should be smooth, so no stepped ring around the driver. I don't know if this will have any real effect on a mid, but with tweeters you'd see edge diffraction in the response. Also, your baffle looks fairly wide, but remember that you'll get baffle step in your response where it looks like the drivers aren't very strong down low depending on the width. If this is say 10" wide the response will be 3db down at around 450Hz and continue down from there.
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Default Re: Dayton Audio RS100-4, PS95-8 and HAT L3V2

I use the Dayton RS100-4 in the dash in custom fiberglass enclosure in a active setup. it easily hits 300 hz without a whimper.
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I'm pretty sure the rs100 will do 300hz fine in a small pillar.
Nice pods but dont they intrude your view a little bit? Either way, drive safe.

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