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Mine are crossed at 350hz with 18db/oct, works very well for me.
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Well, I don't know about lowpassing them up top letting them play lower but it will for sure keep them from having to play as much of the spectrum. Lowpassed up top or not they still gotta move air to play the lower stuff with authority. For your needs I'd be running the gb25 in that size range if money allowed. With the power you have and being a convertible that 4mm of Klippel verified linear xmax could really work in your favor and could take that power crossed at 300hz without breaking a sweat.

Since I want to mount these in the factory location and the grill is part of the door handle assembly the gb25 will not fit without a major rebuild (I already have a pair of gb25s). The Morel will drop right into the factory location like it's made for it. Given these facts the Morel wins. I'm just not willing to rebuild my door or have a giant blob on my a-pillar to install the gb25 (at least not yet ).

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Since I want to mount these in the factory location and the grill is part of the door handle assembly the gb25 will not fit without a major rebuild (I already have a pair of gb25s). The Morel will drop right into the factory location like it's made for it. Given these facts the Morel wins. I'm just not willing to rebuild my door or have a giant blob on my a-pillar to install the gb25 (at least not yet ).
Oh ok. Well they're worth a try then. If output suffers at the suggested 350hz just step them up until you can push them to desired volume without distorting.

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Default Re: Morel CCWR254 2.5" mid/fullrange review

With the esotars having really good midrange, you have nothing to lose by running them to 400 or above to get whatever you need out of the morels. Many midbass drivers may not play well higher, that Dyn is not one of them.

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With the esotars having really good midrange, you have nothing to lose by running them to 400 or above to get whatever you need out of the morels. Many midbass drivers may not play well higher, that Dyn is not one of them.
Agreed. This makes sense given that the Esotar 3 way crosses the 650 at 650hz. Why make a 2.5" driver struggle to play what a 6.5' driver plays effortlessly? The only reason would be to raise the sound stage a little with the smaller driver positioned at the top of the door. This should work itself out with little trial and error but I agree 400-500 should be great.

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You can run them IB just fine. Only thing I really suggest is to do as much as you can to keep the sound from the back of the speaker from causing issues that "just dropping them in" can cause. Some neoprene to make a bladder type enclosure should work fine. I know a guy who had great success making an enclosure for his Scan 10f's this way. Really you just want to attenuate the wave from the back of the cone as much as possible.
Could you expand a little on how to make a neoprene enclosure, that would improve midrange response for these or any other midrange speakers in a ib door situation?

Also, do you or any others have any commentary on how these would compare to the sb accustics 2.5 inch?
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Could you expand a little on how to make a neoprene enclosure, that would improve midrange response for these or any other midrange speakers in a ib door situation?

Also, do you or any others have any commentary on how these would compare to the sb accustics 2.5 inch?
I've never personally made one like that but I would imagine as long as you can seal a piece to an adapter ring or something with both roughly the same size you should be OK.

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