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TOOSTUBBORN2FAIL 03-04-2019 03:28 PM

CLD Testing
 
With the closure of SDS, along with some other companies on top of the creation of new companies like Resonix, its time to put these products through the gauntlet again.

I have plenty of time, but no funds to do this on my own, so I am fundraising to get this going. This test rig will be more accurate, have better resolution, lower noise floor, audio recordings, and testing at multiple temps. It is also unfortunately more expensive. This will be a permanent addition to my garage, enabling testing for the foreseeable future.

There will be a dedicated youtube channel where all tests will be posted for transparency. There will also be a dedicated webpage with a running database.

All purchases made with these funds will be documented, and reciepts will be posted for all to see that the funds are being spent appropriately.

As of this point, I'm a little over 32% funded. I will begin gathering materials at the end of this week to start building the test rig, and post updates here as I go.


https://www.gofundme.com/raising-fun..._co_campmgmt_w

SkizeR 03-04-2019 03:39 PM

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Lets GOOOOOOOOO!!

As you saw, i donated what i can already. i would put up more but running 1 new business and starting another arent exactly good in the personal wallet department lol

Justin Zazzi 03-04-2019 04:06 PM

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This looks awesome.
I have some materials on your wishlist that I can donate.
I'll send you the details.

rton20s 03-04-2019 04:32 PM

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Let's do this people! Donate if you can. Chris' contributions have already proven invaluable to our community. Especially for DIYers.

Thanks to all of you that have and will donate. This is going to be awesome.

rob feature 03-04-2019 07:07 PM

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Bitchin! Thanks for doing this stuff Chris!

SkizeR 03-04-2019 07:13 PM

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I love how we have a thread about tipping pizza delivery drivers getting 25 replies an hour, then this has chirping crickets.. what happened to this place?

Theslaking 03-04-2019 09:18 PM

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I would donate but I don't do credit cards. I'll do a PayPal gift. PM me. I really appreciate your efforts. I've referenced them many times.

truckguy 03-05-2019 09:31 AM

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Iím in for this and will donate a little later tonight. Can you test Ampere Audio Vibraflex? Thx

Dan750iL 03-05-2019 09:55 AM

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I'm in. Looking forward to seeing results.

Holmz 03-05-2019 02:56 PM

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Good on ya and best of luck with it.
(I did not leave a tip though)

TOOSTUBBORN2FAIL 03-05-2019 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by truckguy (Post 5669383)
Iím in for this and will donate a little later tonight. Can you test Ampere Audio Vibraflex? Thx

That is one of the products that definitely has to be included this time.

rton20s 03-05-2019 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TOOSTUBBORN2FAIL (Post 5669561)
That is one of the products that definitely has to be included this time.

https://jlottosen.files.wordpress.co...5hik.jpg?w=640

Jscoyne2 03-06-2019 11:29 AM

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Perhaps email the cld companies and see if they'll donate.

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SkizeR 03-06-2019 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jscoyne2 (Post 5669935)
Perhaps email the cld companies and see if they'll donate.

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aint no one gunna fund the revealing of the truth about their products

Jscoyne2 03-06-2019 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SkizeR (Post 5669949)
aint no one gunna fund the revealing of the truth about their products

Maybe maybe not. Worth trying.

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Dan750iL 03-06-2019 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SkizeR (Post 5669949)
aint no one gunna fund the revealing of the truth about their products

No one?

The ones with confidence in their product will.

Jscoyne2 03-06-2019 12:15 PM

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If someone will write the email. Ill send them out.

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dgage 03-06-2019 12:48 PM

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I'm with TheLasking that I won't put my name on a list to be contacted for other things. I made the mistake of giving directly to our local fire department once and that was a disaster as thereafter I'd get calls every couple months wanting donations for this or that. Finally got them to stop calling and now all of my donations are anonymous.

TOOSTUBBORN2FAIL - please PM me with your Paypal and I'll give directly if that is an option.

Thanks for offering to do more testing and share the results.

TOOSTUBBORN2FAIL 03-06-2019 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jscoyne2 (Post 5669961)
If someone will write the email. Ill send them out.

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I prefer not to involve any companies. I will definitely not be reaching out to any. If any reach out to me, I will move forward on a case by case basis, and only with written terms that allow all products tested that are currently for sale, to be fully published, no matter how well or poorly they perform.

The last round of testing, I had several issues due to taking donations from companies. An employee from GTMat was fired after she convinced their owner to send me some products and it tested poorly. The owner of Raamat ranted against me several times on the forum. The new owner of Second Skin, the guy Ant sold the company to, was fully on board with my testing and testing method and sent me a large box of their products. Then, later on, when I called out the false advertising and impossible physics of Second Skin Speaker Tweakers, he went on a large, personal attack on me, my family, and my testing on this very forum. Moderators did nothing about it. Which is why I haven't been on this forum since 2016.

On top of that, there might always be the accusation of bias, no matter how unwarranted. That's a huge part of the reason I've turned down the two jobs I was offered in that industry (jobs that could really help me right now as I'm currently only partially employed and trying to get my own non-audio related business going).

Part of the testing procedure this time will include full video of all testing, from start to finish, to show that all products are given an equal chance. Thanks to the youtube channel my wife and I run, we have the equipment to do this properly now.

SkizeR 03-06-2019 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TOOSTUBBORN2FAIL (Post 5670023)

The last round of testing, I had several issues due to taking donations from companies. An employee from GTMat was fired after she convinced their owner to send me some products and it tested poorly.

are you fucking kidding me... thats pathetic

Pb82 Ronin 03-06-2019 03:49 PM

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In there like swim wear. I have some spare stuff I can send. Will this be just Dynamat like products, or are we including MLVs and OCF/CCFs?

rob feature 03-06-2019 04:45 PM

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On top of the reasons TS2F gave for not wanting to accept things from companies, if they know they're sending a product for testing, they're going to make damn sure that it gets an extra helping of QC if nothing else. And who knows - they might even have some superior product lying around that was used in early prototypes or sommat that could be sent as a misrepresentation of the actual product being sold. I wouldn't even take anything from forum members or anyone else trying to help out. IMHO, to help eliminate variables, nefarious or not, all product to be tested should be purchased from authorized retailers by the party performing the test.

Chris, I sure do hate to hear that you were treated like that. I wish I could say it's a surprise. Even more reason to applaud you for doing this.

TOOSTUBBORN2FAIL 03-06-2019 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rob feature (Post 5670073)
On top of the reasons TS2F gave for not wanting to accept things from companies, if they know they're sending a product for testing, they're going to make damn sure that it gets an extra helping of QC if nothing else. And who knows - they might even have some superior product lying around that was used in early prototypes or sommat that could be sent as a misrepresentation of the actual product being sold. I wouldn't even take anything from forum members or anyone else trying to help out. IMHO, to help eliminate variables, nefarious or not, all product to be tested should be purchased from authorized retailers by the party performing the test.

Chris, I sure do hate to hear that you were treated like that. I wish I could say it's a surprise. Even more reason to applaud you for doing this.

This is exactly where I'm headed, as far as purchasing products for the testing. Its not meant as an offense to any potential product donors, or donors from my last round of testing, but, last time some products were donated that were damaged upon arrival and therefore didn't get tested. I don't think it was intentional, just one of those things that can happen, especially when being sent leftovers from a project.

Again, that's not to call out anyone who helped with the last run of testing, I truly appreciated everyone who helped. I wouldn't have been able to do it without you guys.


As for my treatment, I can say the worst that ever happened was with Second Skin's owner here, (although at a much later time I had a very pleasant conversation with another of their employees), and an email telling me I should kill myself.

At least I didn't get death threats like Don from SDS did when he had his old testing page up.

Pb82 Ronin 03-06-2019 06:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TOOSTUBBORN2FAIL (Post 5670107)
This is exactly where I'm headed, as far as purchasing products for the testing. Its not meant as an offense to any potential product donors, or donors from my last round of testing, but, last time some products were donated that were damaged upon arrival and therefore didn't get tested. I don't think it was intentional, just one of those things that can happen, especially when being sent leftovers from a project.

Again, that's not to call out anyone who helped with the last run of testing, I truly appreciated everyone who helped. I wouldn't have been able to do it without you guys.


As for my treatment, I can say the worst that ever happened was with Second Skin's owner here, (although at a much later time I had a very pleasant conversation with another of their employees), and an email telling me I should kill myself.

At least I didn't get death threats like Don from SDS did when he had his old testing page up.

Holy crap dude. BTW, you know you can file charges against people for things like that right?

SkizeR 03-06-2019 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pb82 Ronin (Post 5670115)
Holy crap dude. BTW, you know you can file charges against people for things like that right?

Yeah, but chris isnt a total pussy so..

Lol

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