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Default PPI DCX-730 Digital Signal Processor

Since these things look like they are going to be hitting super affordable prices and very little knowledge seems to be out there, I figure I'll post some stuff on it. (Plus gets me an entry in the raffle since any driver review by my rusty ears of doom would help no one! )

Anyways, just got this in today so this first post in just some initial information. Hopefully will be followed up with some hands-on notes in a few days.

Please excuse the pics....my audio hobby has left me little funds to replace my aging Nikon 2mp camera.....

Just for the record, this is one from Ikesound.com and yes, it was on ~$160 shipped. Its definately new in box. All new hardware, no signs of use on anything, no refrub stickers or scratched off S/N's.



Very nice looking pieces. Processor unit is probably about 6" x 4". The controller is 1/2 din, probably an inch deep so no velcroing this one on. Pieces are stamped, made in korea.



Won't know how readable the display is until I power it on and hit the sunlight, but hopefully, this will be a set and leave it alone. Buttons are large enough and well laid out. Only issue I don't like is one of the buttons is a disgusied rubber cap for the usb port. Not sure how long that will stay around before tearing off or discoloring. I'd probably like the port on the processor more than the controller but they didn't ask!







The processor has 3 sets of inputs, 3 sets of outputs and standard power block and controller port. Labeled for front, rear and sub. Although intersting enough, you can change those designations so front in doesn't go to front out.

Flipping through the manual, so things I like about the unit:
- low, bandpass, mid are all adjustable from 20hz to 20khz
- selectable slopes 6, 12, 18, 24 as well as selectable filters (butterworth or L-R)
- time alignment on each channel
- gain on each channel
- volume on each channel
- Q variable 0.1-9.0 (honestly, no idea what this does...but will definately play around with it)

Items I don't like about it:
- manual sucks! Its like 10 pages and barely describes any of the functions. Complete contrast to the Pioneer manuals for say the 860 I had which was a book that described not only functions but some theory behind them
- phase switch on each channel
- usb port on the front (which from reading the manual, probably has no support options yet)

Items I'm unsure about:
- don't know if you can drive all 6 outputs for one set of inputs? Manual never mentions this. If not, I'm going to have a mess of splitters.
- 7-band parametric eq. Not sure how well I'll like this. I've always used graphic eqs so this will be different.
- not sure how easy the menu will be to navigate
- not sure if crossovers will force the hp/lp for the drivers to be the same point of it you can over/under lap the ranges

These questions and more, I'm going to try to dive into over the next few days/weeks. But overall, I'd have to say this is the best new item I've bought for $160.

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I'm very interested in your findings, especially for the price. You can't be a 3-way active xover with TA and EQ thrown in for good measure for that price. It's a steal.
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Curious too.
Look forward to your findings
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i ordered one...
i hope i get it somewhat soon...

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Amazing price! I ordered one and await your review. Does it have a line driver? I use an Audiocontrol HPX (similar to Three.1) for that now and it would be nice to put everything in one box.
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My two cents... just from looking at the features list.

This unit is considerably better Imo feature wise than the h701, especially if you are using a stereo setup.

1. The eq is 7 band per channel, with q adjustments from 1 to 9, and level adjust from +/-18db. You also don't have the h701 limitations with setting points too close to each other, AND you have the option for high/low shelving filters. Imho this is far, far better than Alpine's parametric eq in terms of response shaping flexibility.
2. Higher pre-out voltage
3. re-rerouting inputs/outputs
4. crossover type select butterworth/l-r

There are a few unknown here's though... such as reliability and noise. But the Alpine isn't exactly a champ here either. Look forward to hearing more feedback.

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My two cents... just from looking at the features list.

This unit is considerably better Imo feature wise than the h701, especially if you are using a stereo setup.

1. The eq is 7 band per channel, with q adjustments from 1 to 9, and level adjust from +/-18db. You also don't have the h701 limitations with setting points too close to each other, AND you have the option for high/low shelving filters. Imho this is far, far better than Alpine's parametric eq in terms of response shaping flexibility.
2. Higher pre-out voltage
3. re-rerouting inputs/outputs
4. crossover type select butterworth/l-r

There are a few unknown here's though... such as reliability and noise. But the Alpine isn't exactly a champ here either. Look forward to hearing more feedback.
Oh No!!!!!!! The Alpine goons are gonna come get you.
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Wow I didnt know anything about this processor. It sounds very intersting. Ive been looking at an audio control piece but thats a lot more. I also just happen to have a 1/2 din slot open. 7 bands per channel should be more then enough esp with a peq. Can it do phase on each channel or anything?
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Great post! Looking forward to reading your performance and listening impressions.

Too bad this processor doesn't have any digital inputs. It seems like such a waste to have the signal go through D/A, then A/D, and finally back through D/A once again.
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Great post! Looking forward to reading your performance and listening impressions.

Too bad this processor doesn't have any digital inputs. It seems like such a waste to have the signal go through D/A, then A/D, and finally back through D/A once again.
is that how much credit you give us?

im sure it wouldn't be too hard to bypass the input stage for total goodness

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Items I don't like about it:
- manual sucks! Its like 10 pages and barely describes any of the functions. Complete contrast to the Pioneer manuals for say the 860 I had which was a book that described not only functions but some theory behind them
- phase switch on each channel
- usb port on the front (which from reading the manual, probably has no support options yet)
so are you saying it HAS phase switch on each channel or DOESNT?
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Oops, sorry...gotta reread what I type.

It doesn't have the ability to switch the phase. I'm really disappointed in that. Would of made tuning much easier.

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So maybe I'll have to keep my PSC-221's after all.

That makes it Sony HU -> AudioControl HPX -> DCX-730 -> PPI PSC-221's for highs and mids each.

Hmmm... I'm going to stick to the KISS principle and cut out everything 'cep the DCX if I decide to use it for this install. I had an interview last week so maybe I'll be in the running for a new ride if I get the job ($$$) and then I'll start this whole ordeal all over again. I feel like I've been in the garage for a month straight!
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Oops, sorry...gotta reread what I type.

It doesn't have the ability to switch the phase. I'm really disappointed in that. Would of made tuning much easier.
that really sucks! oh well you cant complain too much since it can do pretty much anything else for a price point that is unheard of.
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I ordered one ... can't wait until i get my hands on it....

Amazing price for what it can do compare to H700 (if you are not going digital/opt input)
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the h700 and horns are the best.
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oh yea the alto mobile drive 30 is the best too. absolutely no noise or popping, awsome software and easy to use.
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oh yea the alto mobile drive 30 is the best too. absolutely no noise or popping, awsome software and easy to use.
Have you seen alto mobile's forum on drive 30? So many issues and complaints
I had 7 of them. all crapped. npdang had his share also.
But maybe you got the newest version.
For me, I am not gonna touch alto ever again.

I agree on H700. My favorite processor of all time.
I had 3 H900, all had noise/pop/issues.

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Hey eng its chris. I was being sarcastic. heh. The alto is a pos. When I get my PPI unit I am going take a sledge hammer to my alto.
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When I get my PPI unit I am going take a sledge hammer to my alto.
Video please

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Hey eng its chris. I was being sarcastic. heh. The alto is a pos. When I get my PPI unit I am going take a sledge hammer to my alto.
My bad, Chris!!!
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Yea im in the bay area for dental school. I've been pretty good. How about you? What do you have going in your car right now? I've been out of the audio scene for awhile. Still running my lotus mids, morel mdt 43's and my 10w7.
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Man, I have changed 3 cars, maybe 50+ amps since last time we met.
When are you coming down?
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hey guys.....maybe take the hugging off-line

Anyways, hooked it up and did some quick playing around with the unit.

some things I verified:
- any input can drive any output, including multiple outputs so 1 in/ 3 out works
- almost every setting can be applied either to front, rear, sub, front L, front R, rear L, rear R, sub L and sub R.....these include sensitivity, time alignment, x-over points, q-bass, and yes.....7-band eq

Didn't really get any listening time but wanted to pass this info on.

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Also forgot to mention:

Each crossover band is independent so you can over/underlap each one. You can also bandpass, hp, or lp either 1, 2 or all the channels.

Crossover frequencies are in 1 hz increments.

Setting everything up can be a pain. A web app that you can setup and then upload to it would of been great.

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