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Default JBL C608GTI MKII Review!!!

Ok, I should have taken pics of the components prior to installing them so you can see them. I am pretty sure they are common enough to get pics online though. Check sonicelectronix.com they always have great pics! I recently sold my Oz audio 3way set that I was very please with but realized that with my limited location availability and lack of a processor I decided to simplify a little with a two way setup. Now I had owned the original jbl gti608 (non mkII) but really never tried them out. I paid $180 locally and turned around and sold them for a bit more (no not on here!)

I have read so many reviews that say oh these things have great low end but no midrange, or the tweeters are super bright, etc.......I will tell you for a fact that the only true part of all of that is that the midbass will rock your world!!! I will get to the details in a few moments.
I bought these because I get JBL direct from the company for great deals because of a comp I have through a music writing association. I have always loved JBL and thought I would unload the majority of the gear I own and start over with more of a budget and simplified mindset. I also had the absolutely perfect midrange in mind to go with this set should I feel it neccessary later on. (a/d/s 344is midrange would be absolutely a perfect match with this set, for the record) However the minute I hooked up this set via the passives bridged to my soundstream ref 4.920 (450watts a side I soon realized that a 3way setup would not be needed! Also I should add this set is in my 04 dodge ram quad cab with the mids in the doors with extremely deadend doors and very rigid birch baffles. The tweeters are in the A-pillars completely off axis (VERY IMPORTANT!!!) the rest of the system consists of a nakamichi sp-w1200d sub powered by a new nakamichi PA-1500 (absolutely awesome amp!!!) all run off my ddx8120 For my testing all processing features were off and the eq was flat. I had the xover at 60/60 for high and low.

Ok, now about the sound.... I would say that the midrange was almost impecable right off the bat. The midbass has incredible attack and the ability to handle almost anything with 0 effort at all. I would say this set can blend with any sub on the planet because you can pound the crap out of them with no issues at all even with insane amounts of power and volume. The deal with the tweeter is this........Its not bright or harsh, its just insanely detailed. It is very important that these are installed off axis (think mb quarts) I would say they run a little hot, and by hot I dont mean they are hash, raspy, bright, tinny, etc......What I am refering to is that perhaps they are getting a little to much of the juice being devided out in the passives. Again the eq is flat and I could leave it that way and be happy but am sure with slight tinkering with my miniscule 13band eq these would be spotless!
The stage height and imaging were suprisingly great, again right out of the box. I am also certain the slightest touch of my decks T/A and were spot on, but again I could live happy with it as is. I am struggling for something bad to say about them and I can only come up with this....Trying to pry the cover off the xovers to connect the wires is a pretty crappy experience, you have to force them way to much and will be afraid of breaking them. Also the terminals are pretty hard to get raw wire into, you really need to use spades to keep from throwing them out the vehicle in anger! If these were bi-ampable you could really have one great passive setup. I also was a little worried with the high xover point (3200 or 3500, I forget) being that the tweeters would be so high up on the dash, it tends to work out great with low xover points because more of the sound is on the dash......because.......well, there on the dash!

I have tried to really stump these and give me a reason to say well they were cheap and thats what you get type of thing....(my discount they are pretty inexpensive) but everything from rat pack, nora jones, poison, dave mathews, various country, even some warren G (I had to see what my sub was capable of with more power then its ever had, ummmm it was friggin sweet!) The fact is that these components (at any $) are probably my favorite set of two way and maybe even 3way I have auditioned in my truck. You name it and I have probably broken down and thrown them in. From ultra cheap to extremely expensive.....Kicker ss, rs (awesome sleeper set that is very similar to the old quart q's) QS, Prs 720 set (so f'ing over rated its sickning, my opinion of course) boston pro, z6, focal k2p, quart qsd, dynaudio, morel elates, oz audio matrix elite, helix, Image dynamics, Alpine F1, the list is just shamefully long!! Out of the box, loud, clean, power handling all around performers price aside these are my favorites. For anyone that is looking for a great set do not look any further, your not going to find anything better in the price range these can be had for. Everything is built like a tank, the get louder and stay together like no other two way or three way set I have ever experienced! Upon reading other reviews of these components as well as others I have toyed with I cant help but get the feeling that people just pass on what they think something will sound like based on looks or #s of a product and pass it along as fact. If you found the tweeters bright or harsh or there was a lack of midrange.......You need to stop attempting to install and see a professional or get your ears checked. I am totally blown away with these and I dont say that about a whole lot in this disease that so many of us like to call a hobbie. I also tend to like a little less tweeter then most and still find these more then acceptable. I am excited to try a little processing and eq'ing from the deck to see what else I can do. In order to be fair I left everything as if you were putting it in a generic setup (except for the 450 a side, which they almost laugh at, but love for sure!)

Enjoy! Take a chance on them, you wont regret it! just make sure its setup right!

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Default Re: C608GTI MKII Review!!!

Good review.

How would you compare them to Boston PROSE and SPZ sets???
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Default Re: C608GTI MKII Review!!!

Now that's a review. Want to sell me a set.

I'd like here more about where and how you have your tweeters mounted.
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Default Re: C608GTI MKII Review!!!

Thats kinda tough for me, I found the comparison to the prose's ability to be as lively as the music was produced, as well as they can get loud are similar characteristics. I would compare the z6's tonal characteristics (midrange) But not sure either have the capabilities of handling anywhere near the power, and by handle I mean the more you give them the more they give back! They z6/spz60 can take some legit power but they just dont get anywhere near as loud. I really like the spz and for the money I think the prose are also great sets. I think the spzs and z6's are pretty laid back and although I do like that sound, there is something to be said for the unreal clarity and realism to the jbl's. I also find the bostons to be great for almost any possible installation, there kinda idiot proof and super user friendly. Not that the jbl's arent, but I have not really done to much with them other then passives in, and everything else in pretty common locations. After having owned the z6s and prose's and the gti's......if all 3 were in the same $ bracket I would still take the gti's. I wish I could take the Gti's and the spz xovers though. Biamp with some of the settings you can fiddle with go a long way on those sets! My favorite two way passives!
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Now that's a review. Want to sell me a set.

I'd like here more about where and how you have your tweeters mounted.
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I will take some pics, but basicaly they are in the lower/mid portion of my apillars pretty much facing each other (slightly upward).
After my price then shipping them to you it would be pretty much the same as ebay/online prices. There was someone on here selling a new set for $250.00, not sure if they are still available or not?
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excellent review! i found a used set of these locally for a fair price and was contemplating getting them for the wifes car but i am also looking for a set of the ppi 355/356cs to use. have you used the ppi's, and if so how would you compare the two?

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i have used the a/d/s/ components several times, various years and models, i assume they are like the last ads series.....cs I beleive. i like that set very much, i am a big fan of the xovers and ability to bi-amp if chosen. the two sets would be very hard to compare. they (jbl) are far more capable in the low end section and louder. like many sets on the market they are fantastic for the $. if you dont have a lot of power for the jbl then i would go ppi. if you can bridge a 4 channel and get a few hundred watts to them then i would take the jbl all day. they are VERY beefy so plan accordingly!
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well, i couldnt pass up the deal on the jbl's so i went ahead and got them. now i need to find a solid 3 or 5 channel budget type amp to power them and an 8 inch sub with.
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I have a pair of jbl gto1004 4channel amps for sale real cheap. They would be perfect....one amp bridged to the components and the other for the sub. Or run it in 3channel mode to the components and bridged for the sub?
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is this the same model I was asking about last week as far as performance? I think it is...
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is this the same model I was asking about last week as far as performance? I think it is...
asking who or where? not sure
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I had a post in the comparison forum
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Sorry Jax, I just searched for your comparison....yes they are the same ones. HIGHLY RECOMEND THEM especially for $200.00 and way over the prs....If you are going to be using the passives I would stick with the jbl's definitely. I thought the tweeter was almost completely untameable on the pioneer set in almost every configuration. To be fair I never tried them active.....nor have I tried the jbl's active...................... yet
Although as of now I really have 0 reason to. I cant think of anything that I really need to change?
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Excellent write up!!! You should be in sales because I almost purchased a set of these today with posting any questions! The last thing I was going to buy for my build was midrange because of all the choices!

My current set-up is kenwood DNX-9140, Sundown 1500D, Two Sundown SA-8 in ported enclosure with Raamat deadner through out. Vehicle is a 08 GMC Sierra Crew cab. With this being said I am pleased to read your review on the jbl. I heard a set of their outdoor speakers and was amazed by the quality. Ever since then I was leaning towards them. However, I am still considering either the Morel Tempo's or the HAT Clarus. Have you had experience with these brands?

Also I already purchased a Sundown audio 50.4 which is 160x2 watts bridged @ 4 ohms. Would you suggest getting something more powerful? I read your comments about your ss 4.920 and am strongly considering purchasing one also. I have always been a fan of soundstream and owned a old rubicon but was scared to try them again since I had heard their quality went downhill. However I read a few thread about the new human reign and it sounds like they are turning things around. My other choice would be the Sundown 100.4 which is 320x2 @ 4 ohms.
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Thanks for the kind words....I own my own company so I guess I am somewhat of a salesman. You have to be to survive I suppose. Now to your questions......

I have tons of experience with morel over the many years and have 0 negative to say about them. I love how they also can seem to accept endless amounts of power and give you a great deal of impact with it. I would have to say that in order to compare morel to the GTI's you would have to spend a hell of a lot more $ to equal similar out of the box results (elates) and your still not going to get the same midbass attack/authority.

I do not have any first hand experience with the clarus but I would assume it is a similar comparison to the morels, your probably going to have to step up in the price range to equal similar performance. Now here is my take on speakers (pretty much all audio, and its not everyones opinion thats for sure, but its what I have come up with over the years) Almost any component set at the higher price points can be made to sound the same, its how you get to that point thats different. What I mean by this, is if you tune a car to an rta and you can get the same line drawn with several components then it should sound the same agreed? Obviously this is really only a reality with dump loads of processing because so many of those sets in similar price range are night and day different as far as out of the box sound, mostly due to different xover points and cone/dome materials. I found that in my particular setup I did not require hardly any eq'ing to acheive satisfactory results. I have the same processing you do (dnx8120) and its pretty good with just that 13band eq. I just have the top end dropped a tad. I am also someone that believes most amps tend to have a signature sound. So it becomes a matching game! I challange anyone to toss in a 4.920 bridged to a set then throw in a jbl gto1004 and tell me there is no difference (power asside). The difference between the two was disturbing! You could go much louder with 0 clipping/distortion, the jbl could not get anywhere near what the ss could do. We are only talking about 75watts difference here to! It was much more impactful, detailed, and controlled, the jbl was opposite! I have since purchased two of my favorite amps of all time to run the sets because I find them to have a very mellow but still impactful sound to them (nakamichi pa-2002) I am getting 400+ to each side with each amp bridged per side, hind sight......should have kept or bought a new ss 4.920! No disrespect to the naks....just different.

Ok enough about my foolish beliefs! I think the power you have available is sufficient but mo' power mo' better I love the choice of subs and amp as well as the deck, I also think the gti's would blend well with that setup. Should be pretty dynamic.

Now the set is only as good as the placement of everything. It is very lively and detailed, I tend to go for setups (out of the box) like morel because of the naturally laid back sound, but also love the ability to roll down the windows and crank it beyond what you should probably be listening too! Volume and clarity at high volume is just one of the things that seperates this set from SO many others. Out of the box, its one of the most detailed, clear, and powerful set I have owned at any price point. I have spent more on just midbass and got less in return the what I spent on this set. It would be worth the purchase just for the midbass! I also was blown away at the midrange, I cannot believe people say the midrange is not adequate.....It makes me wonder if people actually listen to stuff or just look at a picture and make up stuff as they go along? I would, one day like to try these out active, but have unloaded all processing over the last year or so. But on the same hand....if it aint broke...............! I am not going to tell you to go buy them, but I will say your not going to find a better set at the current going rate PERIOD.

Also I had the same experience with there exterior speakers (pretty much everything they make) I was at a wedding and they had these medium sized towers outside and were playing a random mix of music prior to the start and I was dumbfounded at the quality of sound. I have a jbl accomodation so I do tend to by a lot from them because its just flat out affordable to me but I have yet to be dissapointed. (for the record the jbl gto amps were very good for the short $ but could not hold a candle to the ss ref, but the difference in $ is also quite large) I hope this helps, feel free to ask me anything about them, and in case you didnt notice....I am always willing to share my opinion (wanted or not I'm afraid)
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Thanks for your review! I sure do hope to hear this set at our New England meet
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Thanks man! I hope to be able to make it. Work has been psycho as well as at home with the baby so it will be a game time decision as to whether I will be able to make it. I hope to make it, I would like to meet up with everyone.
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ah the 608gt, I had a set of these.

the midbass snap is kinda dull and midrange is lacking.
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Thanks Rexroadj! I guess i'll be looking to off load a Sundown 50.4! A buddy of mine has almost the same set up as me but he has the Kenwood 8120 and his truck is an 06 extended cab. He purchased the Hertz hsk and was running them off the 50.4 but it didn't have nearly enough power. He just purchased the sundown 100.4 and should be getting in soon. So I may wait to see how it pushes his hertz before I decided to get it or the SS. I think I'm just going to go with my first gut instinct and go with the JBl's though.
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ah the 608gt, I had a set of these.

the midbass snap is kinda dull and midrange is lacking.
I'm going to assume your trying to be a smart ass! Coming from someone with such brilliance as the "1-2 power theory" and the fact that you think oem systems with 15watts provide superior midbass over aftermarket components

also this set is the gti set, not familiar with the 608gt? is that from a ford?
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I'm going to assume your trying to be a smart ass! Coming from someone with such brilliance as the "1-2 power theory" and the fact that you think oem systems with 15watts provide superior midbass over aftermarket components

also this set is the gti set, not familiar with the 608gt? is that from a ford?

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these guys that design these levinson and high end bose systems from mercedes, bmw, audi, lexus all have advanced electronics degree and get paid well over 300K annually.

what do u have ? who are u to say they are all wrong ? and who are u to say anyone of us here is wrong ?

get a life man don't lose sleep over it



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I'm going to assume your trying to be a smart ass! Coming from someone with such brilliance as the "1-2 power theory" and the fact that you think oem systems with 15watts provide superior midbass over aftermarket components

also this set is the gti set, not familiar with the 608gt? is that from a ford?

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these guys that design these levinson and high end bose systems from mercedes, bmw, audi, lexus all have advanced electronics degree and get paid well over 300K annually.

what do u have ? who are u to say they are all wrong ? and who are u to say anyone of us here is wrong ?

get a life man don't lose sleep over it
How does getting paid x amount = anything? They are paid for a specific and very very defined project and an open budget is not included. Again you just like the pretty names and you yourself have clearly not done any research on the topic if you have been going around thinking that they run off of 15watts and have 0 deadning! Less talking and more reading jackass! Here is the point.....You started off by attempting to make a smart ass comment on MY thread and I can say or do what ever the fuck I want to about it to you now, no lack of sleep will be had I assure you! What do I know........ Based on your F'ed up no logic theorys....absolutely nothing. I will still take my nothing background though, and am sure the vast majority on here would too! I never said that some oem systems dont sound great, in fact I have said several times in the past quite the opposite. However the idea that there can be more midbass in any oem setup then a well installed properly tuned aftermarket system is probably the dumbest thing I have heard (until whatever rolls out of your uneducated mouth next) They dont go balls to the wall as we do because they cant afford to, since there would be less then 1% of the auto buyer market that gave a rats ass, and even the bulk of them would probably assume or know it can be done better with after market items. Bottom line is you have 0 clue what the fuck your talking about and coming at me like this, about this is about the same thing as going to a knife fight with a q-tip! Go do a lot more reading and learning and then we can have a discussion. Until then go find another forum that can or will deal with your shit!
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wow somebody sounds really insecure....relax man it's a pointless issue. the industry itself is done so your anger is as worthless as the shit stuck on my boxers.






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How does getting paid x amount = anything? They are paid for a specific and very very defined project and an open budget is not included. Again you just like the pretty names and you yourself have clearly not done any research on the topic if you have been going around thinking that they run off of 15watts and have 0 deadning! Less talking and more reading jackass! Here is the point.....You started off by attempting to make a smart ass comment on MY thread and I can say or do what ever the fuck I want to about it to you now, no lack of sleep will be had I assure you! What do I know........ Based on your F'ed up no logic theorys....absolutely nothing. I will still take my nothing background though, and am sure the vast majority on here would too! I never said that some oem systems dont sound great, in fact I have said several times in the past quite the opposite. However the idea that there can be more midbass in any oem setup then a well installed properly tuned aftermarket system is probably the dumbest thing I have heard (until whatever rolls out of your uneducated mouth next) They dont go balls to the wall as we do because they cant afford to, since there would be less then 1% of the auto buyer market that gave a rats ass, and even the bulk of them would probably assume or know it can be done better with after market items. Bottom line is you have 0 clue what the fuck your talking about and coming at me like this, about this is about the same thing as going to a knife fight with a q-tip! Go do a lot more reading and learning and then we can have a discussion. Until then go find another forum that can or will deal with your shit!
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