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This is like a bait and switch thread. At no point did you ask tinctorus how they sounded to him. You just said, "valid point" and "anybody else? ". Seems to me you support them and you don't care to find negative opinions, just good ones.

You want proof they are good or bad? "Distortion is audible" although you cannot identify it's level compared to other speakers. There are people who find some distortion good and that's makes it even harder to determine distortion by ear. So, either you use equipment to measure such distortion or use speaker design, otherwise you recommend the product with your own opinion and only your opinion.

PS, Some opinions are more valuable than others.

PS PS, Do you work for them or have a vested interest?
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Well this thread took off into heated debate didnt really expect that kind of talk for this brand. From my post way back my friends audio pipe gear and I may not own it but if your around your friends long enough you hear there stuff alot more than just a quick demo. But here is audio pipe vs few other brands I believe are on par with them pyramid, pyle, dual etc. Now I listened to audiopipe 15inch sub vs pyle. Both subs hit good when given alot of power and these inefficient subs take the power but seriously the audio pipe pulled ahead when it came to faster bass notes the audiopipe was off key but the pyle was muddy as can be.

Now moving up to a pretty good quality sub JLw6v2 12 vs audio pipe TXX-APX12W roughly same rms range but no contest. when played low the AP hits good and keeps up with bass notes on rock tracks and plays low for the bass but this is not even at reference levels when pushed above reference the AP became muddy and could not reproduce all those lows that it had attempted at less power. I not a musicologist in any sense but you guys wanted someone to apparently write a match up.

So audio pipe probably holds true it will "bang" maybe not sound good but it will "bang" either in good enclosures or in numbers anything S*tty can sound okay with enough played at a reference level or less so that the speakers parameters are not fully explored. My buddy loves them cause they "Bang" but I want to hear all the bangs not all into one muddy bang but this is only my 2 cents from a nooby take it with a grain of salt

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now you are just being a straight up jackass. speaker distortion is audible, as is frequency response when one plays ANY music that they frequently listen to over and over again on different sound systems.
And the name calling begins when asking for proof...

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and what "good" reason is that? tons of people are specification mongers. specs mean absolute shit unless the product matches the advertised specs. that's why the best test in the world is YOUR EARS, not lab results. if it sounds good to you, and if your ears can justify the price of a product, then it was a good product, period.
You're damn right I'm a "specification monger" because the measurements are true, they can't lie, they can't hide behind marketing, and they don't have monetary gains to protect. They also tell us everything we need to know about a driver's sound. I know, I know...the old wives tale of "just listen!" dies hard.

Why should I trust your ears? Because you say they sound good? My stereo sounds pretty decent for the equipment used, so you should go and replicate it today to listen for yourself.

Who am I to tell you what sounds good? And vise-versa
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Why did u make the thread Asking about them if u know more than eveyone else on audiopipe products?
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PS PS, Do you work for them or have a vested interest?
He already skipped that, conveniently. I have a feeling we're going to get the "if only you knew who I am" story once more...

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Why did u make the thread Asking about them if u know more than eveyone else on audiopipe products?
I didn't know dick about them three weeks ago when i posted the thread. i have since learned a little bit about there product by making phone calls, posting in OTHER forums, and driving to listen to demos... I didn't realize that this forum is full of mostly trolling idiots who have very little real world experience of there own and just re-spew someone else's internet jargon.

I notice that the legitimate posters here tend to stay away from mainstream branded stuff and go for the high-fidelity releated threads, and that's fine, i was just searching for legitimate information about a company's products based on people's REAL listening experiences, but instead, I got a bunch of garbage repsonses that are absolutely USELESS to me.
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if u were able to get all the info u needed in real life, why would u even bother with a forum even if they were right? they could say its good but then u listen in real life and be like wow thats terrible sounding...

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This is like a bait and switch thread. At no point did you ask tinctorus how they sounded to him. You just said, "valid point" and "anybody else? ". Seems to me you support them and you don't care to find negative opinions, just good ones.

You want proof they are good or bad? "Distortion is audible" although you cannot identify it's level compared to other speakers. There are people who find some distortion good and that's makes it even harder to determine distortion by ear. So, either you use equipment to measure such distortion or use speaker design, otherwise you recommend the product with your own opinion and only your opinion.

PS, Some opinions are more valuable than others.

PS PS, Do you work for them or have a vested interest?
great, so now i have to buy expensive equipment to analyze inexpensive products.

Christ almighty, i just want opinions from people who have actually used the products, not jackasses who haven't.. is that too much to ask?

and no,I do not work for nor do i have a vested interest in the AudioPipe company or their PR machine. I work as a Transvestite Hooker for your father, he's my pimp.
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if u were able to get all the info u needed in real life, why would u even bother with a forum even if they were right? they could say its good but then u listen in real life and be like wow thats terrible sounding...
ohhh, i don't know, to save time and money perhaps? and yeah, you are right, they could say great things and the product could end up being terrible, but usually in internet forums such as this, people tend to give fairly honest opinions about things. I was simply looking for experienced opinions, and received very few.
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great, so now i have to buy expensive equipment to analyze inexpensive products.

You are purposely taking things out of context. I was speaking of relying on the measurements already presented from a variety of sources. The other way to get a great speaker is to buy and sell stuff till you find what you like. Then there is the hit and miss strategy, asking for reviews; it works but Audiopipe equipment is not used too much here.

Christ almighty, i just want opinions from people who have actually used the products, not jackasses who haven't.. is that too much to ask?

You are being closed minded. "ask tinctorus". Did you do it, no.

and no,I do not work for nor do i have a vested interest in the AudioPipe company or their PR machine. I work as a Transvestite Hooker for your father, he's my pimp.

Great. Then use that $5 you just made to pay the restocking fee after you try the Audiopipe speakers. Problem solved.
No one is trying to hide some amazing speaker deal from you; it's just a matter of no great reviews or measurements of their products. On the other hand, there are many other speakers that are proven winners.

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to give an honest answer to audio pipes products as a consumer i would put them in the range of being best budget equipment. There ipipe subs get very loud and handle there rated power. there components do not come nearly as close to my CDT's do BUT for the money there sound beat the infinity kapa components i had. There amps are decent. there 15001d is very powerfull and a small fotprint for the price. it is NOT dirty power as some have stated. all in all for the price there a good product.

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to give an honest answer to audio pipes products as a consumer i would put them in the range of being best budget equipment. There ipipe subs get very loud and handle there rated power. there components do not come nearly as close to my CDT's do BUT for the money there sound beat the infinity kapa components i had. There amps are decent. there 15001d is very powerfull and a small fotprint for the price. it is NOT dirty power as some have stated. all in all for the price there a good product.
this is probably the deal with audio pipe products.

if u really wanna be cheap, they arent a bad product. But u really cant expect much from them.

those that say they are bad, or suck, are probably so used to great products that arent cheap, so when they hear or heard audiopipe stuff, it was just sad.

thats not to say their views, reviews, thoughts, opinions, etc. are not valid.

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This is like a bait and switch thread. At no point did you ask tinctorus how they sounded to him. You just said, "valid point" and "anybody else? ". Seems to me you support them and you don't care to find negative opinions, just good ones.
i didn't care to hear the ramblings of a supposed "installer" talk about speakers that he hasn't actually owned. eeryone knows that speakers need many hours of play to break in properly. if he hasn't owened them, then he has never taken the time to do that
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to give an honest answer to audio pipes products as a consumer i would put them in the range of being best budget equipment. There ipipe subs get very loud and handle there rated power. there components do not come nearly as close to my CDT's do BUT for the money there sound beat the infinity kapa components i had. There amps are decent. there 15001d is very powerfull and a small fotprint for the price. it is NOT dirty power as some have stated. all in all for the price there a good product.
ok, cool, finally, a learned opinion. CDT isn't exactly a budget speaker though, but i appreciate the comparison, as i have heard CDTs several timesmyself on several different systems
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this is probably the deal with audio pipe products.

if u really wanna be cheap, they arent a bad product. But u really cant expect much from them.

those that say they are bad, or suck, are probably so used to great products that arent cheap, so when they hear or heard audiopipe stuff, it was just sad.

thats not to say their views, reviews, thoughts, opinions, etc. are not valid.
this is a thread for LEARNED opinions through experience, not speculation by non-owners.
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I cant speak for build quality, but have heard them several times. They are a flea market favorite around here. They are cheap and loud. The sound like hot [email protected]#, but the guys that buy them are not looking for "sq." If you have 4 fifteens in your trunk and want to do a whole system for under 500 bucks, audiopipe is a speaker the flea market will offer you. If you want to go cheap look at madisound or parts express.
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I cant speak for build quality, but have heard them several times. They are a flea market favorite around here. They are cheap and loud. The sound like hot [email protected]#, but the guys that buy them are not looking for "sq." If you have 4 fifteens in your trunk and want to do a whole system for under 500 bucks, audiopipe is a speaker the flea market will offer you. If you want to go cheap look at madisound or parts express.
Sorry guy, that's not a learned response and is full of speculation by a non-owner. It means nothing in this thread.
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this is a thread for LEARNED opinions through experience, not speculation by non-owners.
too bad this is a forum and i can post whatever i want wherever i want!

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Audiopipe is ok for the regular Joe that wants to buy a setup for under a few hundred and beat the crap out of the trunk lid.

To me Maxxisonics stuff is similar just more expensive.

Not everbody wants to buy $1000 amps and speakers.

but I would say most Audiopipe users should stick to the SPL forums .. ROE, CA and such.
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It is a few year later now. I enjoy using lots of products. In subwoofers I started out with two pair of cerwin vega stroker 15 inch subwoofers. I found them to be fantastic.

Crazy me. A few years later I paid even bigger bucks buying top of the line subwoofers once again. One pair of rockford fostgate T2 2013 version. Fabulous subwoofer once again.

Then i seen these audiopipe txx apa 15 10th anniversary subwoofers. I see them rocking on utube in two vids, One guy had one in his house hooked up to a yamaha p7000 amplifier. It seemed to do well according to him. I then seen them rocking in the back seat of vehicle on utube. They seemed to have nice even excursion a high power.

Anyway dumbhead me I had to go buy a pair of these, and I hooked them up with similiar tuning and same amplifier. A cerwin vega cv 5000 in the house.
Well guess what audiopipe bashers!!!!!. From a subwoofer worth not a third the price of a T2. These subwoofers performed and sounded absolutely great, and this is rurnning them side by side with rockford fosttgate t2s, and cerwin vega stroker 15 inch top of the line subwoofers. The darn things surprised the hell out of me. They actually sounded great and were keeping up with the strokers and T2s.
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Now to the person who needs test reports and only test reports. The best test reports you will ever get are from people actually using the product.

Now to the person who thinks all everyone has is an opnion and test report rules. Well you are just saying anything and everything to try and knock someone else down. Why bother? Why would it be so important to you?
The best opinion is everyones own single opinion read and used to form ones own single opinion or evaluation. Why work so hard to try and devalue someones opinion? It is up to each reader to form his own and express his own and they do not need your qualification! Yet you seem to want to tell everyone whos opinion is good and whos is more valuable. Get a life!!

No subwoofer , or product driven for the sole purpose of achieving high Spl is going to sound good, Even if it is one of my rockford t2s. They all sound the best when given a nice nominal rms load that you can run all day at. The audiopipe txx apa 15s were advertised as 98 db efficient. This is a very high rating for a subwoofer, but easily achievable when you don't overpower the magnet structure to make a product that will achieve the highest of power ratings.

All i can say is wow amazing performance for the price. Now this is where you come in and say some smart ass comment like, I must work for audiopipe, or I must be someones cousin or aunt, just to be derogatory rather than contribute a valid opinion. The author wanted opinions from people who tried the products, and got almost none. !!.
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Audiopipe subwoofers

Amazing one thread with a bunch of bashers, and another totally opposite. Just thought I would come back and add this. LOL.

Love those TXX APA eye candy subs!!
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20+ years as an installer. I've installed everything from Rockford T series subs, Focal components, Sundown amplifiers and everything in between. Including all the stuff people order from amazon and a handful of other car audio websites. As far as the high end audio pipe and their large spl drivers they are ok but I don't spend allot of my time installing 3000+ watt amplifiers and multiple 15's in the back of suburbans enough to form a good opinion. The large mono block power amps don't seem bad either but longevity would be the only issue with these as I am not familiar with the build quality as well as I'm not familiar with there failure rate. That being said most of the entry and middle of the line product that most people seem to buy I have installed frequently and they sound inferior compared to even other cheaper entry level components. For instance, I have installed two different audio pipe 6.5 components. One of those set ups was being driven by a Rockford 300x4 Prime amplifier. I also installed the same Rockford 300x4 amplifier and a set of Polk Audio 6.5 components in a similar suv. While the audio pipe components sound good compared to the factory speakers when I compared them to the entry level Polk Audio components (which cost less) the Polk Audio's blew them away. So with that I can honestly say that the audio pipes components even though they may sound better than the factory setup were absolute garbage compared to the entry level Polk Audio model db6501's

I have installed some of Audiopipes entry level $59 12" subs and found several other brands such as Infinity and Soundstream sounded way better for the same $59 and the build quality looked better as well. Hell, for just a extra $10 NVX makes a 12" for $69 that sounds like its in another league all together and when you compared it to the Audiopipe you'd be pissed off after you heard it. Always, listen to the guys that do this sh!t for a living and yes you can get an idea of the sound quality of a speaker by looking at the build quality and specs. The other thing I would also tell you is you can't complain if someone tells you something sounds like garbage. Installers don't have to set in a car for hours or wait until the speakers are completely broke in to tell if they are of good quality. We install thousands of systems and listen to them on a daily basis and can make a fairly quick judgment about the sound quality.

Rarely are there any small companies making a name for themselves that are good anymore. The market is and has been fairly saturated with those guys. So in conclusion. Either buy reputable equipment and get what you pay for Rockford, Kicker, JBL, Alpine, Sundown, PSI, DD, Crecendo, NVX, RE, Focal, Polk Audio, Image Dymamics, etc.. or shop amazon and a host of other online retailers pushing subwoofers for $50 that hardly anyone uses just because they look cool or your buddy thinks they are awesome and become another sucker. Actually, you'd be better off standing in the car audio isle at your local Wal-Mart buying Kicker and Pioneer. Even the entry level kicker amps at Wal-Mart are tested and rated appropriately and the pioneer crap is so massively produced and Wal-Mart buys so much in large bulk you can come out spending less money with a better sounding system. Still won't be nearly as good as buying the quality stuff for just a little more $$. Good day to you sir and may your speaker endeavors shower you with cheap knock offs and repackaged pyle, legacy, pyramid and other companies that try to sell something that 'looks' coooool and is soooo cheap man.

Side note: I once was forced to install a Boss component set in a brand new BMW with a factory upgraded sound system. Against my advice the customer insisted and argued with me and acted like I didn't know what I was talking about. He after all, paid a whole $99 for them somewhere and demanded to use them. I charged him $75 to install them. He brought his car back the next day and didn't say a damn word to me other than. Sorry man, can you just put my factory component back in. Sure I said, but it'll cost $140 because I'll have to undo a lot of work and its more time consuming to re-install them. He rolled his eyes and paid. I of course lied and it was a piece of cake but thats what the customer gets when they insult my intelligence and bring me that crap. So in the end he was stuck with a pair of $99 components, $75 install charge, and a $140 re-install fee which brings his total cost to....approximately $215 dollars. For $130 and a $50 install he could have bought a variety of components in the store that would have sounded awesome and his grand total would have been $180 bucks. What does he have now? A set of factory speakers back in his car and he's out $215. PRICELESS.

If you would like to respond to me and call me a typical basher who doesn't know what he is talking about maybe you should take your ass somewhere that people get together and talk about how well they love the sound of cheap crap like the reviews on amazon and sonicelectronix. They have plenty of people who praise Boss amplifiers and give them 5 stars. I'm starting to think you already bought a bunch of Audiopipe stuff and just want to feel good about your purchase. Sorry bro.....
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You would be the only installer that I have ever seen that seems to be on a master parade to bash a lot of products, not just audiopipe. All companies make CRAP! and good equipment these days. Usually you are pretty safe with anything top of the line, from a long standing company. Many companies who at one time were stereotyped as, flea market, transformed to high quality respected companies over time. Obviously this is what is happening with Audiopipe, seeing as there sales are extremely high.

There will always be a market for those that just want to make noise, and with installed car audio equipment, we are talking about sound that is 35db louder than normal just because of its location and surroundings. Those with supposedly good equipment Like Rockford T2 are using 2 ohm loading and suffering all kinds of distortions under high spl. This is the nature of car audio. Most are just a bunch of kids that want to blast there face off, and make such a loud boom down the street, that everyone turns their heads to look.

The audiopipe txx bd 3 15 sounds just as good as the Rockford T2 15 subwoofer, of which I own both, and run them side by side daily. The audiopipe TXX APA 15 is very nice as well. both have high quality coils, good size magnet structure, and adequate build quality.
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You would be the only installer that I have ever seen that seems to be on a master parade to bash a lot of products, not just audiopipe. All companies make CRAP! and good equipment these days. Usually you are pretty safe with anything top of the line, from a long standing company. Many companies who at one time were stereotyped as, flea market, transformed to high quality respected companies over time. Obviously this is what is happening with Audiopipe, seeing as there sales are extremely high.

There will always be a market for those that just want to make noise, and with installed car audio equipment, we are talking about sound that is 35db louder than normal just because of its location and surroundings. Those with supposedly good equipment Like Rockford T2 are using 2 ohm loading and suffering all kinds of distortions under high spl. This is the nature of car audio. Most are just a bunch of kids that want to blast there face off, and make such a loud boom down the street, that everyone turns their heads to look.

The audiopipe txx bd 3 15 sounds just as good as the Rockford T2 15 subwoofer, of which I own both, and run them side by side daily. The audiopipe TXX APA 15 is very nice as well. both have high quality coils, good size magnet structure, and adequate build quality.
I have installed just about every audiopipe sub and amp from 2007-2011. Also used several of their speakers and install accessories. Mainly because I had a wholesale account and all my buddies just wanted loud bass. 2 of their eye candy 15s on a audiopipe 2500 put up a 148.6. I beat on those poor 15s for 3 years before I got rid of them. I was young and stupid and would demo them until I could feel the aluminum cone getting hot. Never had a problem with them. That being said they have crappy quality control, sometimes they would be DOA. But I still have a friend running the same 2 eye candy 12's from 2008. With the same 1500 mono. Same as any brand, take care of it and keep the distortion out and you have a solid product that will last.

My cost on their speakers is around $20 for coax. I have used them, they are barely decent. But for someone who has no speakers, they are worth the 20 bucks. Haven't used one of their products in the past 4 years simply because there is much better stuff for just slightly more cost. 8 years ago there really wasnt.

My buddy blew his diamond d6 12, bought and audiopipe eye candy 12. It hit a little bit harder in the exact same setup. Wasn't as clean or smooth as the diamond though.

Their sound quality is above boss and other junk, even cleaner than kicker by far. But definitely not up there with all the other top brands.

Your comment about being as good as the T2? Bah BS. I had some 05 P2s and they were still cleaner than audiopipes.

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I have installed just about every audiopipe sub and amp from 2007-2011. Also used several of their speakers and install accessories. Mainly because I had a wholesale account and all my buddies just wanted loud bass. 2 of their eye candy 15s on a audiopipe 2500 put up a 148.6. I beat on those poor 15s for 3 years before I got rid of them. I was young and stupid and would demo them until I could feel the aluminum cone getting hot. Never had a problem with them. That being said they have crappy quality control, sometimes they would be DOA. But I still have a friend running the same 2 eye candy 12's from 2008. With the same 1500 mono. Same as any brand, take care of it and keep the distortion out and you have a solid product that will last.

My cost on their speakers is around $20 for coax. I have used them, they are barely decent. But for someone who has no speakers, they are worth the 20 bucks. Haven't used one of their products in the past 4 years simply because there is much better stuff for just slightly more cost. 8 years ago there really wasnt.

My buddy blew his diamond d6 12, bought and audiopipe eye candy 12. It hit a little bit harder in the exact same setup. Wasn't as clean or smooth as the diamond though.

Their sound quality is above boss and other junk, even cleaner than kicker by far. But definitely not up there with all the other top brands.

Your comment about being as good as the T2? Bah BS. I had some 05 P2s and they were still cleaner than audiopipes.

My .02 cents.
Sorry to say but I do not post BS. I currently run 20 subwoofers in my home audio super system. I can certainly say that I would never have purchased the Rockford T2s, unless i got them for the 400.00 each new that I paid. They are currently 800.00 a pop.

Would never buy more of them at that price, rather buy Orion HCCA for 400.00 each. While the rockfords are a very good sub, they are certainly not worth 4 times the price of a audiopipe txx BD 3 15. I would rather buy four BD 3.

I run all my subwoofers distortion free at 8 ohm nominal loading with, Bridged Pro audio amplifiers. So most of my subwoofers will certainly perform and sound better than anything you are doing, as you as well as others are mostly obsessed with using shortcuts to get high power output via 2 and 1 ohm loading resulting in Back emf, improper cone movement, inaccurate bass reproduction, and amplifier distortion. How one can say one subwoofer is cleaner than the other when they are running distorted loads in this manner is a joke.

I suggest you review the audibility of distortion when dealing with subwoofer bass drivers at the home theater shack. The nature of bass drivers is that distortions as high as 7 to 10 percent can be completely inaudible due the fact Pure SPL is burying the distortion behind the insane high output. I prefer to run clean at 8 ohm nominal loads, and spend more money ensuring I got the power to drive the woofer, rather than bury the noise.

The worst subwoofer I purchased is the Power Accoustic MOFO 15s. They would be better without the metal cooling and stiffening ring which i find makes them over produce in a small range of frequency. Good for pure SPL if that is what you want.

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I have been doing car audio on a non comp level for about 18 years now. I am not a seasoned pro with changing times but I know how to install a good system, work out the kinks, and will not hook up anything for anyone without all the proper adaptors and hardware. I have been through many name brands. Alpine was a favorite for many years for all around quality for the price, have owed a couple 10's, 12's, and a type r 15. I have owned infinity 10's and 12's, fosgate 2 times p3 and power hx2 15's, jbl 15 wgti, sony xplode, old school oz audio, installed an old jl 15w6 back in the day, sundown sa-15, and more mid level stuff for other people.

I now have settled for the time being with my audiopipe txx-apa-15. I have been absolutely impressed as I didn't expect much out of this sub as I had not heard much about them. It was $140 and I figured id take a chance after blowing my alpine type r 15 of 4 years. Well it immediately out performed the alpine in the same sealed box made for the alpine. Months later I bought a sundown sa15 in a box made for it at a shop. Hooked it up to the same alpine mrd-m1005 1000rms amp. The Audiopipe was better in its sealed enclosure. I put it in the box the sundown was in and was even more impressed. Double output and nearly no distortion. I play bass tracks at high volume for 20 min and it pounds away with no issues. It is by far met my expectations. Hit 144.3 at the local shop where I paid $10 for a reading.

I am guessing that this audiopipe may outperform near anything in the price range of up to $200-250. I have tried to replace it twice and wound up selling the subs I bought to replace it(sa15, power hx2) I'm not going to try and replace it until I can afford one in the $400 range. I can't help but wonder about the audiopipe bd3s performance. When that time comes I will be getting a new alt and another alpine amp to run to whatever sub I get. My highs are good to go. This buy far isn't the best sub out there but it is for a sub within the $200 range.
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