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I think these look very promising and for only $42 too. https://www.parts-express.com/faital...-ohm--294-1150

I own the SB Acoustics SB29RDCN-C000-4 Neo Magnet ring Dome Tweeter in my van and can compare it to my AudioFrog GB15 in my CX5 and GB10 in my F150 and in my option this SB29 tweeter is the best $60 I have ever heard.

I used these in my CX5 as full range tweeterless and they were very good for midrange. I think these would do well as a dedicated midrange.

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I'm getting ready to put a system in my work truck, and this thread has been really helpful.

I'm stuck in between getting the PPI 3 way setup, or some raw drivers that members have mentioned in the thread.

I don't have all the gear to go active now, so if I get the raw drivers who makes a decent budget 3 way passive crossover? The only thing I can find is an Audiopipe set on Amazon. Looking for something already assembled, I don't have the time to make my own crossovers.

(FYI, amp will be a 90's USA made ZED 50x4 that I'll bridge to 100x2 along with an old Sony XEC1000 crossover - Vehicle is a 2018 F-150 that I'll buy speaker pods for the mid/tweet and use the factory location for the woofer)

Note about the classified - nobody says what they're selling, they just list a model # that I dont know what it is LOL.
At the $300 price point with passive crossovers, your options are going to be very limited for a 3-way set. The PPI set you mentioned is about it for 6.5"-7" sets. As you stretch your budget up to about $400-500, you'll find the Morel Maximo Ultra 603, Sony XS-GS1631C and Focal 165AS3. Additionally, there are the Infinity Kappa and JBL GTO sets with add on dome midrange that will put you around the same $400-500 price point.

Fortunately for you, the F150 should accommodate a 6x9 midbass. This opens you up to using the Infinty and JBL 6x9 component sets with the added dome midrange. Unfortunately, there aren't a lot of 6x9 3-way passive component sets. Kenwood has some new low cost options for Chevy/Chrysler/Dodge/Toyota that pair a 6x9 with a 2.5" wideband or 3.5" coax. However, it really isn't designed to work with the F150.


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I don't have all the gear to go active now, so if I get the raw drivers who makes a decent budget 3 way passive crossover?
Just make your own with stuff from parts express.

This one may work for the tweeters: https://www.parts-express.com/5-khz-...sover--266-472

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Default Re: 3 way. 100$ 200$ 300$

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I'm getting ready to put a system in my work truck, and this thread has been really helpful.

I'm stuck in between getting the PPI 3 way setup, or some raw drivers that members have mentioned in the thread.

I don't have all the gear to go active now, so if I get the raw drivers who makes a decent budget 3 way passive crossover? The only thing I can find is an Audiopipe set on Amazon. Looking for something already assembled, I don't have the time to make my own crossovers.

(FYI, amp will be a 90's USA made ZED 50x4 that I'll bridge to 100x2 along with an old Sony XEC1000 crossover - Vehicle is a 2018 F-150 that I'll buy speaker pods for the mid/tweet and use the factory location for the woofer)

Note about the classified - nobody says what they're selling, they just list a model # that I dont know what it is LOL.
That Sony crossover is designed for 2-way plus sub setups. It jumps from 180Hz to 2.4kHz; so no viable options for midbass to midrange crossover points.

Sonic has the Sony 3-way set for $320 open box.
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If you're trying to do an inexpensive 3-way, I would do a 4ch amp and use the built-in crossover for the midbass / midrange point. There's no sense in having all the expense of making a crossover worth a damn when you can just handle it actively. The mid/tweet crossover point can then be a very simple DIY project with 4 items...two poly capacitors and two small air core inductors. The cost of these items is trivial compared with the monster parts required of a midbass crossover.


Making your own crossovers isn't too hard, especially if you pick drivers that are of similar efficiency and if you pick a crossover point that doesn't require major re-work like a notch filter or something. You can just go with a higher point that the midrange and tweet are definitely OK with, like 5000hz or so. I did exactly this back in 2014 or so, with 3 passive crossovers controlling the top end of a surround system (with 2-way center and 3-way front), and it worked beautifully. I got project boxes with breadboard, and went to town. It took a few hours but when I was done, I had a pretty sweet set of crossovers! I can grab some pics if you like the idea. Expense for all the crossover stuff I think was in the $60 range for 3 of them. But running the active crossover to the midbass was one of the secrets of success. It makes things so much easier. In my case I used DSP and because my mid-tweet were close together, bundling them together on the same DSP channel also kept my time alignment.

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