Not happy with front stage....MLK 165.3 - Car Audio | DiyMobileAudio.com | Car Stereo Forum

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 4 Weeks Ago   #1
 
Newbie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Canada
Posts: 53

Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 53 Infinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enough


iTrader: (0)



Default Not happy with front stage....MLK 165.3

Here is the breakdown:

Vehicle: 2016 F-150 super crew
Front stage: Hertz Mille Legend MLK 165.3
Rear fill: JL C3650

Amp: Zapco Z-150.4 II

DSP/integration: Rockford DSR 1

So here is the scoop. I am not happy with the front stage as the mid-bass is damn near non-existent. Everything is sound deadened (second skin, and MLV) but the mid-bass up front is just poor. I found the tweeters excessively sharp, but I can tune this out. The MLK 165.3 set sounds just OK.

If I could speak to what I am kind of looking for, I had the first version of the Image Dynamics CXS64 way back in the day and I MISS THEM DEARLY! Best tweeter and mid range I could have asked for!

I have tuned for what seems like hours, but I can't seem to improve the mid-bass output of the front stage.

Thinking of replacing the front woofers with a set of Stevens Audio MB6-2 (2 ohm) woofers.

I would like to keep the x-overs and tweeters in place at this time. (budget constraints)

Please advise on the following:

1. Will it cause any issues to hook up a 2ohm woofer to the x-over instead of the 4 ohm Mille driver?

2. Would the Stevens driver be a good choice at this price range?

3. Any other advice on things I should be looking at here?

Thanks!
~Infinity
Infinity99 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 4 Weeks Ago   #2
 
saltyone's Avatar
 
Newbie
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Louisiana (deep in the freaking swamp)
Posts: 177

Thanks: 8
Thanked 47 Times in 44 Posts
Rep Power: 10 saltyone will become famous soon enoughsaltyone will become famous soon enoughsaltyone will become famous soon enoughsaltyone will become famous soon enoughsaltyone will become famous soon enoughsaltyone will become famous soon enough


iTrader: (0)



Default

Are you using the factory HU? What kind of processing do you have?

I have the MLK 165.3 component set and the midbass is amazing. Every review of these components praises their low frequency reproduction. Are you certain that there isn’t something in your signal path canceling out the lower frequencies? If so, you could throw the best midbass woofers in existence at it and it wouldn’t make a difference.

I’ve owned several “higher end” component sets from JL, Alpine, old school MB quartz, and Memphis. The Mille Legends are the best I’ve owned hands down. I have about 100 watts going to each set of tweets and woofers. I’m using the same passive crossover.

Edit: I just saw where you listed the amp.

saltyone is online now   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 4 Weeks Ago   #3
 
Newbie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Canada
Posts: 53

Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 53 Infinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enough


iTrader: (0)



Default Re: Not happy with front stage....MLK 165.3

Quote:
Originally Posted by saltyone View Post
Are you using the factory HU? What kind of processing do you have?

Edit: I just saw where you listed the amp.
Processing: Rockford Fosgate DSR 1
Yes factory HU.
Infinity99 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 4 Weeks Ago   #4
 
saltyone's Avatar
 
Newbie
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Louisiana (deep in the freaking swamp)
Posts: 177

Thanks: 8
Thanked 47 Times in 44 Posts
Rep Power: 10 saltyone will become famous soon enoughsaltyone will become famous soon enoughsaltyone will become famous soon enoughsaltyone will become famous soon enoughsaltyone will become famous soon enoughsaltyone will become famous soon enough


iTrader: (0)



Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Infinity99 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by saltyone View Post
Are you using the factory HU? What kind of processing do you have?

Edit: I just saw where you listed the amp.
Processing: Rockford Fosgate DSR 1
Yes factory HU.
There must be something going on in the signal processing. Again, those woofers are excellent midbass drivers. The 1650.3 ML set has the exact same woofers with a little cosmetic treatment. They’re the best Hertz makes, and are recognized for their midbass output.

I’m not an expert, but I’d bet there’s something in the DSR-1 settings, on the amplifier, or on the passive crossover that is causing the issue. Can you list out your settings on each so the professionals on here can review them. They’ll spot an issue very quickly. You owe it to yourself to ensure everything is set appropriately before spending hundreds on new woofers.

saltyone is online now   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 4 Weeks Ago   #5
Upgrade Your Membership!
 
AVIDEDTR's Avatar
 
Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 1,363

Thanks: 78
Thanked 96 Times in 75 Posts
Rep Power: 149 AVIDEDTR will become famous soon enoughAVIDEDTR will become famous soon enoughAVIDEDTR will become famous soon enoughAVIDEDTR will become famous soon enoughAVIDEDTR will become famous soon enoughAVIDEDTR will become famous soon enough


iTrader: (28)



Default Re: Not happy with front stage....MLK 165.3

where in canada are you

2019 Honda Ridgeline Black Edition - FiiO M11 & OEM Radio - Arc Audio PS8-50 & X2 1100.1 - Arc Audio RS 1.0 3.0 6.0 - AudioFrog GB10D2x2
2013 Dodge Avenger - Clarion NX706 - Arc Audio PS8PRO - TruTechnology Tungsten T2 T4 TG2 - Audio Frog GB10 GB40 GB60 GB10D2
AVIDEDTR is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 4 Weeks Ago   #6
 
Newbie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Canada
Posts: 53

Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 53 Infinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enough


iTrader: (0)



Default Re: Not happy with front stage....MLK 165.3

Quote:
Originally Posted by AVIDEDTR View Post
where in canada are you
Victoria, BC
Infinity99 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 4 Weeks Ago   #7
DIYMA 500 Club
 
Enthusiast
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Vermont
Age: 58
Posts: 6,098

Thanks: 19
Thanked 314 Times in 277 Posts
Rep Power: 190 miniSQ is a jewel in the roughminiSQ is a jewel in the roughminiSQ is a jewel in the roughminiSQ is a jewel in the roughminiSQ is a jewel in the roughminiSQ is a jewel in the roughminiSQ is a jewel in the roughminiSQ is a jewel in the roughminiSQ is a jewel in the roughminiSQ is a jewel in the roughminiSQ is a jewel in the rough


iTrader: (20)



Default Re: Not happy with front stage....MLK 165.3

I'm not going to suggest you run out and replace drivers yet.

I had the original CHAMELEON set from ID and loved the nx30 tweeter as well as the midbass so i know what you are looking for.

You have no sub? what are your XO points on the mid?

2018 Crosstrek
P SIX DSP MK2 GB10 GB25 Gs690 RM12 Z-2KD II
miniSQ is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 4 Weeks Ago   #8
 
saltyone's Avatar
 
Newbie
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Louisiana (deep in the freaking swamp)
Posts: 177

Thanks: 8
Thanked 47 Times in 44 Posts
Rep Power: 10 saltyone will become famous soon enoughsaltyone will become famous soon enoughsaltyone will become famous soon enoughsaltyone will become famous soon enoughsaltyone will become famous soon enoughsaltyone will become famous soon enough


iTrader: (0)



Default

From first hand experience though, I promise you those mids will produce. I can turn my sub completely off and some that listen still believe there’s a sub playing somewhere and that I’m jacking with them. My rear speakers are the 165.3 PRO’s ran off channels 3 and 4 of a four channel Rockford T400X4ab. We have very similar installs. What sub are you running?

saltyone is online now   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 4 Weeks Ago   #9
Upgrade Your Membership!
 
AVIDEDTR's Avatar
 
Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 1,363

Thanks: 78
Thanked 96 Times in 75 Posts
Rep Power: 149 AVIDEDTR will become famous soon enoughAVIDEDTR will become famous soon enoughAVIDEDTR will become famous soon enoughAVIDEDTR will become famous soon enoughAVIDEDTR will become famous soon enoughAVIDEDTR will become famous soon enough


iTrader: (28)



Default Re: Not happy with front stage....MLK 165.3

Go see Keith McCumber at SoundsGood caraudio.

2019 Honda Ridgeline Black Edition - FiiO M11 & OEM Radio - Arc Audio PS8-50 & X2 1100.1 - Arc Audio RS 1.0 3.0 6.0 - AudioFrog GB10D2x2
2013 Dodge Avenger - Clarion NX706 - Arc Audio PS8PRO - TruTechnology Tungsten T2 T4 TG2 - Audio Frog GB10 GB40 GB60 GB10D2
AVIDEDTR is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 4 Weeks Ago   #10
DIYMA 500 Club
 
mires's Avatar
 
Member
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: DFW
Posts: 977

Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 118 mires has a spectacular aura aboutmires has a spectacular aura aboutmires has a spectacular aura aboutmires has a spectacular aura aboutmires has a spectacular aura aboutmires has a spectacular aura aboutmires has a spectacular aura aboutmires has a spectacular aura aboutmires has a spectacular aura aboutmires has a spectacular aura about


iTrader: (1)



Default Re: Not happy with front stage....MLK 165.3

Maybe they are just out of phase
mires is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 4 Weeks Ago   #11
 
Newbie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Canada
Posts: 53

Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 53 Infinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enough


iTrader: (0)



Default Re: Not happy with front stage....MLK 165.3

Quote:
Originally Posted by miniSQ View Post
I'm not going to suggest you run out and replace drivers yet.

I had the original CHAMELEON set from ID and loved the nx30 tweeter as well as the midbass so i know what you are looking for.

You have no sub? what are your XO points on the mid?
I cooked the subs a week back by over powering them (on purpose). Helix E12W x 2, rated at 400W RMS. Threw 700W to them (2 Ohms for kicks) got them free in a trade and I wanted to see how long they would last (3 months).

Amp is a Zapco Z2kD-II for subs. I will be getting new subs shortly. This is yet another topic I should probably touch on. Rockford T1S1-12 x 2 600W RMS, show them 700W, or dumb the amp down to 4 ohm and get the Rockford P3SD2-12. But I digress to the matter at hand.

The x-over and EQ for the front are as shown in the pics attached.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 1.jpg (1.38 MB, 23 views)
File Type: jpg 2.jpg (1.42 MB, 18 views)
Infinity99 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 4 Weeks Ago   #12
 
Newbie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Canada
Posts: 53

Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 53 Infinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enough


iTrader: (0)



Default Re: Not happy with front stage....MLK 165.3

Quote:
Originally Posted by AVIDEDTR View Post
Go see Keith McCumber at SoundsGood caraudio.
The round trip to Vancouver on the ferry with the vehicle is about $200.00, this is not economical. (Victoria is on an island) If I happen to be in Vancouver, I may do this, but that's is not gonna be for a while for sure.
Infinity99 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 4 Weeks Ago   #13
 
Newbie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Canada
Posts: 53

Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 53 Infinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enough


iTrader: (0)



Default Re: Not happy with front stage....MLK 165.3

Quote:
Originally Posted by mires View Post
Maybe they are just out of phase
Negative, they are in phase.
Infinity99 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 4 Weeks Ago   #14
 
Newbie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Canada
Posts: 53

Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 53 Infinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enough


iTrader: (0)



Default Re: Not happy with front stage....MLK 165.3

I listen to all genres of music (no classical or country). EDM and tracks from Chemical Brothers and Daft Punk, the low end is missing a ton, and the bass distorts at a volume of 25 (the HU is clip free signal to 28 and clip free from the processor is the same, as well as gains). This is all set with a O-scope from frequencies of 60hz-10khz

Is this a mechanical limitation?

If I turn down the X-over below the point shown, at 25 volume, bass farts in some songs, (EDM, rap, heavy bass tracks).

What am I missing.
Infinity99 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 4 Weeks Ago   #15
Upgrade Your Membership!
 
AVIDEDTR's Avatar
 
Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 1,363

Thanks: 78
Thanked 96 Times in 75 Posts
Rep Power: 149 AVIDEDTR will become famous soon enoughAVIDEDTR will become famous soon enoughAVIDEDTR will become famous soon enoughAVIDEDTR will become famous soon enoughAVIDEDTR will become famous soon enoughAVIDEDTR will become famous soon enough


iTrader: (28)



Default Re: Not happy with front stage....MLK 165.3

What does the installation on the doors look like? did you sound deaden all three layers with good sound deadener (dynamat, resonix?)

is the construction solid and sealed to the door?

2019 Honda Ridgeline Black Edition - FiiO M11 & OEM Radio - Arc Audio PS8-50 & X2 1100.1 - Arc Audio RS 1.0 3.0 6.0 - AudioFrog GB10D2x2
2013 Dodge Avenger - Clarion NX706 - Arc Audio PS8PRO - TruTechnology Tungsten T2 T4 TG2 - Audio Frog GB10 GB40 GB60 GB10D2
AVIDEDTR is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 4 Weeks Ago   #16
 
Newbie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Canada
Posts: 53

Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 53 Infinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enough


iTrader: (0)



Default Re: Not happy with front stage....MLK 165.3

Quote:
Originally Posted by AVIDEDTR View Post
What does the installation on the doors look like? did you sound deaden all three layers with good sound deadener (dynamat, resonix?)

is the construction solid and sealed to the door?
Yes, I currently do not have images of this. The door is sealed pretty well I would say. I used Second Skin Damplifier and Second Skin Overkill.

This process took me about 3 days, I gutted the truck, did all 4 doors, rear panel of the cab, and floor back to front. I did not do the roof (sunroof).
Infinity99 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 4 Weeks Ago   #17
Upgrade Your Membership!
 
AVIDEDTR's Avatar
 
Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 1,363

Thanks: 78
Thanked 96 Times in 75 Posts
Rep Power: 149 AVIDEDTR will become famous soon enoughAVIDEDTR will become famous soon enoughAVIDEDTR will become famous soon enoughAVIDEDTR will become famous soon enoughAVIDEDTR will become famous soon enoughAVIDEDTR will become famous soon enough


iTrader: (28)



Default Re: Not happy with front stage....MLK 165.3

Quote:
Originally Posted by Infinity99 View Post
Yes, I currently do not have images of this. The door is sealed pretty well I would say. I used Second Skin Damplifier and Second Skin Overkill.
Outter Layer (yes/no)
inner Layer (yes/no)
door card(yes/no)

what's the baffle made from? MDF/Baltic/Plastic(Metra junk)

2019 Honda Ridgeline Black Edition - FiiO M11 & OEM Radio - Arc Audio PS8-50 & X2 1100.1 - Arc Audio RS 1.0 3.0 6.0 - AudioFrog GB10D2x2
2013 Dodge Avenger - Clarion NX706 - Arc Audio PS8PRO - TruTechnology Tungsten T2 T4 TG2 - Audio Frog GB10 GB40 GB60 GB10D2
AVIDEDTR is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 4 Weeks Ago   #18
 
Grinder's Avatar
 
Enthusiast
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Outside The Box
Posts: 2,502

Thanks: 459
Thanked 671 Times in 586 Posts
Rep Power: 60 Grinder will become famous soon enoughGrinder will become famous soon enoughGrinder will become famous soon enoughGrinder will become famous soon enoughGrinder will become famous soon enoughGrinder will become famous soon enough


iTrader: (0)



Default Re: Not happy with front stage....MLK 165.3

160 Hz HP???
Grinder is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 4 Weeks Ago   #19
 
Newbie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Canada
Posts: 53

Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 53 Infinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enough


iTrader: (0)



Default Re: Not happy with front stage....MLK 165.3

Quote:
Originally Posted by AVIDEDTR View Post
Outter Layer (yes/no)
inner Layer (yes/no)
door card(yes/no)

what's the baffle made from? MDF/Baltic/Plastic(Metra junk)
Outer layer (door skin inside door) - Damplifier
Inner layer (interior door panel) - Damplifier + Overkill
Door card - Damplifier + Overkill

No rear baffle installed behind the speaker or FAST rings, but all speaker adapters were ordered from Audio Designs & Custom Graphics. Not sure the material. Looks to be some sort of ABS?
Infinity99 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 4 Weeks Ago   #20
DIYMA 500 Club
 
Enthusiast
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Vermont
Age: 58
Posts: 6,098

Thanks: 19
Thanked 314 Times in 277 Posts
Rep Power: 190 miniSQ is a jewel in the roughminiSQ is a jewel in the roughminiSQ is a jewel in the roughminiSQ is a jewel in the roughminiSQ is a jewel in the roughminiSQ is a jewel in the roughminiSQ is a jewel in the roughminiSQ is a jewel in the roughminiSQ is a jewel in the roughminiSQ is a jewel in the roughminiSQ is a jewel in the rough


iTrader: (20)



Default Re: Not happy with front stage....MLK 165.3

Quote:
Originally Posted by Infinity99 View Post
I cooked the subs a week back by over powering them (on purpose). Helix E12W x 2, rated at 400W RMS. Threw 700W to them (2 Ohms for kicks) got them free in a trade and I wanted to see how long they would last (3 months).

Amp is a Zapco Z2kD-II for subs. I will be getting new subs shortly. This is yet another topic I should probably touch on. Rockford T1S1-12 x 2 600W RMS, show them 700W, or dumb the amp down to 4 ohm and get the Rockford P3SD2-12. But I digress to the matter at hand.

The x-over and EQ for the front are as shown in the pics attached.
Hi-passing the mids at 160hz is the reason you have no midbass.

2018 Crosstrek
P SIX DSP MK2 GB10 GB25 Gs690 RM12 Z-2KD II
miniSQ is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 4 Weeks Ago   #21
 
Newbie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Canada
Posts: 53

Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 53 Infinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enough


iTrader: (0)



Default Re: Not happy with front stage....MLK 165.3

Quote:
Originally Posted by miniSQ View Post
Hi-passing the mids at 160hz is the reason you have no midbass.
If I cut it lower, bass will distort and fart at volumes that I am not pleased with. It will not be loud enough for my listening tastes. I am looking for SQ-L, not pure SQ at the average listening volume.

Maybe I gotta adjust the EQ more? Cut out anything below say 80-100 hz? The x over at 100ish?
Infinity99 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 4 Weeks Ago   #22
DIYMA 500 Club
 
Enthusiast
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Vermont
Age: 58
Posts: 6,098

Thanks: 19
Thanked 314 Times in 277 Posts
Rep Power: 190 miniSQ is a jewel in the roughminiSQ is a jewel in the roughminiSQ is a jewel in the roughminiSQ is a jewel in the roughminiSQ is a jewel in the roughminiSQ is a jewel in the roughminiSQ is a jewel in the roughminiSQ is a jewel in the roughminiSQ is a jewel in the roughminiSQ is a jewel in the roughminiSQ is a jewel in the rough


iTrader: (20)



Default Re: Not happy with front stage....MLK 165.3

Quote:
Originally Posted by Infinity99 View Post
If I cut it lower, bass will distort and fart at volumes that I am not pleased with. It will not be loud enough for my listening tastes. I am looking for SQ-L, not pure SQ at the average listening volume.

Maybe I gotta adjust the EQ more? Cut out anything below say 80-100 hz? The x over at 100ish?
Then ditch the 6.5 mids and do something else, maybe need to get an 8" midbass and create a 3 way active.

2018 Crosstrek
P SIX DSP MK2 GB10 GB25 Gs690 RM12 Z-2KD II
miniSQ is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 4 Weeks Ago   #23
DIYMA 500 Club
 
Enthusiast
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Aurora, Co
Age: 36
Posts: 6,493

Thanks: 0
Thanked 452 Times in 383 Posts
Rep Power: 371 gijoe has a reputation beyond reputegijoe has a reputation beyond reputegijoe has a reputation beyond reputegijoe has a reputation beyond reputegijoe has a reputation beyond reputegijoe has a reputation beyond reputegijoe has a reputation beyond reputegijoe has a reputation beyond reputegijoe has a reputation beyond reputegijoe has a reputation beyond reputegijoe has a reputation beyond repute


iTrader: (7)



Default Re: Not happy with front stage....MLK 165.3

If you have a 160hz HPF, of course you don't have any midbass. You need to bump that down to about an octave lower, about 80hz. If they distort at 80hz at the volume levels you want, it's not the equipments fault, you need to adjust your expectations, and perhaps rethink your system design.
gijoe is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 4 Weeks Ago   #24
 
Newbie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Canada
Posts: 53

Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 53 Infinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enough


iTrader: (0)



Default Re: Not happy with front stage....MLK 165.3

Quote:
Originally Posted by miniSQ View Post
Then ditch the 6.5 mids and do something else, maybe need to get an 8" midbass and create a 3 way active.
Interesting concept, another amp would be necessary for a 3 way active set up. Lots of custom work, and mucho $$$. Wife agro would definitely be a side effect! HAHA!
Infinity99 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 4 Weeks Ago   #25
 
Newbie
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Canada
Posts: 53

Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 53 Infinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enoughInfinity99 will become famous soon enough


iTrader: (0)



Default Re: Not happy with front stage....MLK 165.3

Quote:
Originally Posted by gijoe View Post
If you have a 160hz HPF, of course you don't have any midbass. You need to bump that down to about an octave lower, about 80hz. If they distort at 80hz at the volume levels you want, it's not the equipments fault, you need to adjust your expectations, and perhaps rethink your system design.
Solid assumption and advice. Maybe I am expecting too much of of this set up. I can change speakers NP, I can not swap the DSP or amp set up as this is just too much of a cost.

Here is my approach currently, I am gonna do as follows, dumb it down to about 80hz, and adjust the EQ accordingly bringing down the low end a fair bit.

This may end up in a better result?? Will post back after this has been done.
Infinity99 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Bookmarks

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Car Audio | DiyMobileAudio.com | Car Stereo Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:
Location
Where you live
First name
Last name
Do you work in the 12 Volt industry?
Do you work in the 12 Volt industry?
Youtube Channel
Enter Your Youtube Username, And It will Be Linked To In Your Posts!
12V Industry - Company Name
Your company name.
12V Industry - Your Position
Your position in your company.

Log-in



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:54 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Ad Management by RedTyger

Home | User CP | Members List | New Posts | ITrader | Faq | Post Spy