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I don't think it's possible to have a meaningful discussion with you, as you believe your opinion is an absolute. IMO, objective data (measurements), are pretty much for folks with Tin ears. I did not get dozens of folks praising my installs, an winning SQ awards, because I can't hear. But call it as you will, I guess I'm a BS Audiophile in your eyes, and I'm fine with that. All I can say to you is, Ignorance is bliss.

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I have a question (haven't run across it in this thread). When I hit the magnifying glass (search) button on the 80PRS, the folder list ALWAYS starts at the top, no matter which folder I'm currently in.

Shouldn't it start searching wherever the current track is already playing? I mean, why start at the top every time? Most other head units just start in the current folder. I hate having to scroll through the entire list every time I want to search for a track.

Or am I doing something wrong?
this question has come up three times on
this thread and never been answered.
answer :
in the main menu, this is the menu that
comes up when key is on and deck is off,
press and hold control knob, main setup
menu appears.
in here is : MUSIC BROWSE.
select which input you want
EG: usb 1 , usb 2 , etc.
now when browsing you have the choice
of finding your tunes by artist, gener, title
etc....

hope this helps.
it IS in the manual, but not well outlined.

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I bought a SanDisk 64Gb usb flash memory stick, and I formatted it to Fat 32, I keep getting error 23 on the pioneer 80prs

how can I solve that

Also if I have flac files, what shall I convert them to preserves audio quality without any loss of quality

is there a free program to convert flac files
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I don't think it's possible to have a meaningful discussion with you, as you believe your opinion is an absolute. IMO, objective data (measurements), are pretty much for folks with Tin ears. I did not get dozens of folks praising my installs, an winning SQ awards, because I can't hear. But call it as you will, I guess I'm a BS Audiophile in your eyes, and I'm fine with that. All I can say to you is, Ignorance is bliss.
Would you mind taking your personal flame war to private messaging. I for one am trying to read through this thread to learn about the DEH-80PRS before I pull the trigger on one and it is amazing how much off-topic chaff there is in here.

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I bought a SanDisk 64Gb usb flash memory stick, and I formatted it to Fat 32, I keep getting error 23 on the pioneer 80prs

how can I solve that

Also if I have flac files, what shall I convert them to preserves audio quality without any loss of quality

is there a free program to convert flac files
The 80 will only read up to 32gb sd cards and thumb drives. Also covering to WAV will preserve audio quality.

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I bought a SanDisk 64Gb usb flash memory stick, and I formatted it to Fat 32, I keep getting error 23 on the pioneer 80prs

how can I solve that

Also if I have flac files, what shall I convert them to preserves audio quality without any loss of quality

is there a free program to convert flac files
Foobar is a great opensource program with easy conversion to just about any format.
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The 80 will only read up to 32gb sd cards and thumb drives. Also covering to WAV will preserve audio quality.

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I solved the flash memory thing by using an HP format tool, and it reads my 64GB flash memory without a problem now.

I will use wav then to maintain audio quality of my flac files
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I'll make it easy for you. For the few issues the 80 has, there's nothing better for the money! I've managed to tame the hard midrange by turning off the Auto EQ, and crossing my mids at 2k with a 1st order. Tweeters are 4k with a 2nd order.

I get a very flat response using a AC RTA. And better yet, It sounds good.


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I get a very flat response using a AC RTA. And better yet, It sounds good.
An Rta flat response normally does not sound good.

[Rant] I've been running the p80 for the last ten days since my bit10 finally bit the dust. Of course, there is a big difference between the p80 and a full blown processor. A much wider span of control at much finer resolution per driver on the processor vs a limited span at a much coarser resolution per side.

I've been trying to get some what close to the sound I had with the bit10. I'm ok with the xovers and slopes but what really irks me is the eq. To start with 16 bands of geq per side are not enough 31 per side like on the p99 are a min. However the cherry on the icing is the fact that resolution on the eq is in +/- 2db steps. While that may be passable at the lower end say 20-80hz, trying to dial in the midrange from 300-2khz at +/- 2db steps is a b****. Net result, the frickin thing never sounds right. You're either almost there or you're overcooked. It's never close enough to just right Frustrating as hell!!

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I like the flat sound, as everything sounds good, but nothing sounds bad.

I talking about different types of music.



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An Rta flat response normally does not sound good.

[Rant] I've been running the p80 for the last ten days since my bit10 finally bit the dust. Of course, there is a big difference between the p80 and a full blown processor. A much wider span of control at much finer resolution per driver on the processor vs a limited span at a much coarser resolution per side.

I've been trying to get some what close to the sound I had with the bit10. I'm ok with the xovers and slopes but what really irks me is the eq. To start with 16 bands of geq per side are not enough 31 per side like on the p99 are a min. However the cherry on the icing is the fact that resolution on the eq is in +/- 2db steps. While that may be passable at the lower end say 20-80hz, trying to dial in the midrange from 300-2khz at +/- 2db steps is a b****. Net result, the frickin thing never sounds right. You're either almost there or you're overcooked. It's never close enough to just right Frustrating as hell!!

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DEH-80PRS is still limited to 16 bands L/R EQ, but is adjustable in 1 dB increments. You can also adjust driver levels independently in 1 dB increments.


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I like the flat sound, as everything sounds good, but nothing sounds bad.

I talking about different types of music.
If flat sounds good to you, then flat sounds good to you. I don't know very many people who tune to a board flat RTA response though. Well, unless they are competing in RTA Freq out. But that isn't about sound quality.


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Tuning a system "RTA flat" using pink noise? That's a recipe for crap... it won't sound right in any car. Generally the response 20Hz-20kHz should be tilted 20dB or so.

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I like the flat sound, as everything sounds good, but nothing sounds bad.

I talking about different types of music.
The type of music you listen to makes no difference. In a car response is king. A flat response in a car will make all genres sound meh. The right response on the other hand will make all genres sound nice. When you think of a target curve for a car, think of a line sloping from 20-20k at about 2-3db/oct. In some parts of the spectrum the slope will be steeper and in others it may be shallower / flat. Part of your mid range 500-1khz typically needs a slight bump. 1.2-4khz is typically rolling off at about 5-6db/oct. Like Han mentioned a 20db drop from 20-20k is a good place to start.

Flat response in a car is as big a myth as SQ of amps.

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DEH-80PRS is still limited to 16 bands L/R EQ, but is adjustable in 1 dB increments.
Then that is one difference between the older 880 and the newer DEH-80PRS.

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You can also adjust driver levels independently in 1 dB increments.
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Digital Attenuator - not sure what to set this on.

(pissed Pioneer didn't give the option to disable this feature altogether, I don't want my signal auto-attenuated)

Anyway, manual states "switch the digital att. to low to reduce distortion". Confusing wording I think. One would suspect the "high" setting would attenuate the most, right?
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Anyone know of a comparable unit to this one? I've switched over to almost exclusively bluetooth streaming, but still want to run the iPod from time to time. CDs, I haven't used in years. HD Radio would be nice as well. Im running a basic 2 coaxial speakers (passive crossover) and a sub set up.
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Anyone know of a comparable unit to this one? I've switched over to almost exclusively bluetooth streaming, but still want to run the iPod from time to time. CDs, I haven't used in years. HD Radio would be nice as well. Im running a basic 2 coaxial speakers (passive crossover) and a sub set up.
I'm confused by your question. Comparable to the 80PRS in what ways? The features you listed are not why people generally buy the 80PRS. Typically they buy it because they are looking for the best SQ HU that can easily run active and has separate L/R EQs plus triple 24bit DACs.

What must-have 80PRS capabilities are you looking for in other HUs?
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Default Re: Pioneer's SPANKING new DEH-80PRS. Pioneer's knockout punch to Alpine's CDA-117?

If you listen to any AM radio, forget the 80, as it has the worse AM I've ever heard. The $100. Pioneers have the best AM and HD. So Pioneer decided you can have one or the other, but not both.


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Anyone know of a comparable unit to this one? I've switched over to almost exclusively bluetooth streaming, but still want to run the iPod from time to time. CDs, I haven't used in years. HD Radio would be nice as well. Im running a basic 2 coaxial speakers (passive crossover) and a sub set up.

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Dan7u, I agree with Jepalan. Based on what you say you're looking for, the DEH-80PRS is the wrong HU for you. I'd take a look at some of the Alpines that have the features that you're looking for.


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I ask because I currently have one, and I was happy with it, but the front RCA outputs of the deck starting causing on/off pop & whine on the left and some popping during playing on the right. It would kick the amp into protect every time it happened. I moved the speakers to the rear output and it solved the problem, but now I can't use the time alignment feature properly. From what I've read, this deck no longer uses the pico fuses. Anyone run into this same issue and know of a repair?
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Default Re: Pioneer's SPANKING new DEH-80PRS. Pioneer's knockout punch to Alpine's CDA-117?

You could run a ground from the RCA ground to the radio chassis. That got rid of noise on my past Pioneer's.


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I ask because I currently have one, and I was happy with it, but the front RCA outputs of the deck starting causing on/off pop & whine on the left and some popping during playing on the right. It would kick the amp into protect every time it happened. I moved the speakers to the rear output and it solved the problem, but now I can't use the time alignment feature properly. From what I've read, this deck no longer uses the pico fuses. Anyone run into this same issue and know of a repair?

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