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The issue is not while listening to music. The issue is during tuning. If you're doing TA, EQ, etc by ear it is hard to notice the minute differences when the sound is interrupted by a beep.

I never found it to be a huge issue. But it was annoying, nonetheless.
Exactly! That beep really pissed me off while the rta was running! It annoyed me while listening to music at a lower level too.

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I've owned nothing but pioneer headunits since the first one I installed in my '86 Cougar back in 2000. One thing I've always noticed is that even tho the volume dial goes all the way up to 50 or 60 you only have to turn it up to around 20 for it to get loud. On my 80prs, whether using the built in amp or my full system, I have to crank it up into the 40s and 50s for it to get loud. Is this how everyone's unit is or did I get a defective one?
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I've owned nothing but pioneer headunits since the first one I installed in my '86 Cougar back in 2000. One thing I've always noticed is that even tho the volume dial goes all the way up to 50 or 60 you only have to turn it up to around 20 for it to get loud. On my 80prs, whether using the built in amp or my full system, I have to crank it up into the 40s and 50s for it to get loud. Is this how everyone's unit is or did I get a defective one?
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I've owned nothing but pioneer headunits since the first one I installed in my '86 Cougar back in 2000. One thing I've always noticed is that even tho the volume dial goes all the way up to 50 or 60 you only have to turn it up to around 20 for it to get loud. On my 80prs, whether using the built in amp or my full system, I have to crank it up into the 40s and 50s for it to get loud. Is this how everyone's unit is or did I get a defective one?
I run mine to the upper 50's almost ever time I use it. I run 62(Max) quite often also. The voltage difference between 61-62 is almost 1 Volt. I tested my 80 and it was a Clean unclipped signal all the way to 62. I set my gains accordingly. No big deal. I don't think I've used the amp in a deck in over 15 yrs
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Thanks for the info guys! I was starting to think I had a defective unit. I like the fact that there's so much fine volume adjustability but I hate the fact that when I mute the sound and push the volume up button I have to scroll all the way up to 40 instead of around 15. Lol
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I run mine to the upper 50's almost ever time I use it. I run 62(Max) quite often also. The voltage difference between 61-62 is almost 1 Volt. I tested my 80 and it was a Clean unclipped signal all the way to 62. I set my gains accordingly. No big deal. I don't think I've used the amp in a deck in over 15 yrs

Check the subwoofer output. On the p99, all outputs are clean to 62 except for the subwoofer. The sub out is clean to 61, clips pretty ugly at 62. Thats with everything flat.

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Check the subwoofer output. On the p99, all outputs are clean to 62 except for the subwoofer. The sub out is clean to 61, clips pretty ugly at 62. Thats with everything flat.
I recheck the sub channel. Thanks
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Hello, I'm still learning and interested in getting this HU.
I've read here that it can do 3 way+sub. (highs/mids/midbass/subw)
how can it do that out of 3 pair of RCAs output?

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Hello, I'm still learning and interested in getting this HU.
I've read here that it can do 3 way+sub. (highs/mids/midbass/subw)
how can it do that out of 3 pair of RCAs output?

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It does 2 way + sub active by itself. If you want 3 way + sub you need to add a dsp or run it with passive crossovers.
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I've read here that it can do 3 way+sub. (highs/mids/midbass/subw)
how can it do that out of 3 pair of RCAs output?

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You can run 3-way passive with this deck, NP. The RCA's are for the amp(s) that you'll use. If you're just getting started, might want to start with a 5-channel amp to keep things simple. I put an Alpine PDX-V9 in my daughters car, works like a champ. Lots of options out there based on your budget & space available.

If you want to go active with the 3-way, that will take some additional stuff, couple of ways to do. But if you're still learning - stick with the passive set-up thru the crossovers and some amp power, you'll be very happy.
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You can run 3-way passive with this deck, NP. The RCA's are for the amp(s) that you'll use. If you're just getting started, might want to start with a 5-channel amp to keep things simple. I put an Alpine PDX-V9 in my daughters car, works like a champ. Lots of options out there based on your budget & space available.

If you want to go active with the 3-way, that will take some additional stuff, couple of ways to do. But if you're still learning - stick with the passive set-up thru the crossovers and some amp power, you'll be very happy.
Well, I'm not that a noob but I was asking cause I read it here and probably missunderstood it.

I installed an alpine PDX-V9 with some kicker SS8 Midbass, a set of kicker SS comps and a PG RSDc 10" on a friend's SUV... I used the amp crossovers (bandpass mode on rear outs for Midbass) front outs for mid/highs comps...

Kickpanels and midbass in the doors. It sounds very nice, I actually took it to an IASCA competition an got a nice score.

The thing is that car audio stuff is very expensive where I'm from (Colombia), signal processors are way to expensive for me. So I was thinking a set of 4" comps in the A pillar, Midbass in the doors and sub in the trunk with the DEH-80PRS. Is it possible to run it in network mode using a pair of outputs for the comps, another for the midbass and the last one for the sub? That way I'll be running active the midbass and woofer and passive the comps.

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The lowpass for the mid and highpass for the high outputs will only go down to 1.25khz so keep that in mind.

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The lowpass for the mid and highpass for the high outputs will only go down to 1.25khz so keep that in mind.
This part is key. The DEH-80PRS is great for what it does, but a few too many people are trying to get it to do things it just wasn't designed to do. If you want an installation more complicated than front + rear + sub or two way + sub, the DEH-80PRS might be a great foundation, but you're definitely going to have to find some additional equipment to accomplish your goals.
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This part is key. The DEH-80PRS is great for what it does, but a few too many people are trying to get it to do things it just wasn't designed to do. If you want an installation more complicated than front + rear + sub or two way + sub, the DEH-80PRS might be a great foundation, but you're definitely going to have to find some additional equipment to accomplish your goals.
I thought so... Ok then I'll have to same some cash to buy a processor and I could buy a much cheaper HU.

Which processor do you reccomend?
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That is a whole different can of worms. Search is your friend. Be prepared for at least as many opinions as there are options.
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All external processors have their strong and weak points. Only way to find the one that's right for you is to read up on each one until your head explodes.

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That my friend... is a great idea!

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You can still use the 80PRS in your application. While it's true that the lowest HP setting is 1.25K, you can set the slope to 6db and have the 4" comps run quit low. Don't forget that the 80PRS is also a pretty darn good HU. It doesn't make much sense to cheap out on a HU in favor of adding a processor.

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Really good point... at the heart of any SQ system should be a solid HU. The processor will just make the tuning that much easier/better.

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If you're doing the processing down stream via a processor and using the hu only as a source, you won't hear a difference between the p80 and most any other $100 hu.

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If you're doing the processing down stream via a processor and using the hu only as a source, you won't hear a difference between the p80 and most any other $100 hu.
So you're saying that the HU (source material) matters not?

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