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They shipped the unit without an instruction manual?



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Yarp. HUUUUUUUGE fuck up on their part.

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It's called advertising. Every rep here does it. I know shortly Fred was out of the country when Buick's issues started. Kinda hard to fault a guy for not checking in. And as always, he could have called Arc.



Who said to call for EVERY question? Stop being a douchebag just to try and make a point. Yes, Arc is behind on the manual. It SHOULD have been ready at the shipping date. None of that is related to Buick's problem.
I did call ARC and you don't know what the problem is so you can't make that conclusion.
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So what was the problem? Swapped the + and - feed? Really... There's not a whole lot to the physical dsp install.



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I don't know, Andy has been real good at avoiding the jet noise problem and still comment on everything else


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personally, if I were a mfg and saw half the retarded shit people said and the lengths they went through to post a problem publicly and avoid contacting me so I could help fix it and possibly alert others if there's a legitimate problem... I wouldn't want to post on the forum, either. Just sayin'.

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I did call ARC and you don't know what the problem is so you can't make that conclusion.
That what? He was out of the country when your issue started? It's not a conclusion, it's fact. Does ANYONE know what the problem is? You haven't even sent it to Arc yet. They could troubleshoot it over the internet but you haven't done that either.

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I don't know, Andy has been real good at avoiding the jet noise problem and still comment on everything else
I thought when that started he simply said "unplug the mic, dumbass" or something to that effect. lol

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personally, if I were a mfg and saw half the retarded shit people said and the lengths they went through to post a problem publicly and avoid contacting me so I could help fix it and possibly alert others if there's a legitimate problem... I wouldn't want to post on the forum, either. Just sayin'.

I don't know how Andy does it. Maybe he gets paid by post from his company's marketing department. That, or the dude is a masochist. No offense, Andy.
LOL, I would quit if I were given the task to deal with diyma members. Mark Brooks is another example, though not as extreme because he sells directly on here and benefits financially directly... but the dude will take calls 24/7, he answers PMs at all hours of the day and night, and I had a conversation w/ him when it was 4am where he is. I've seen him get bashed in various threads. Of course, he doesn't have Andy's patience, but still...
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I think Mark is a little different situation since DIYMA is almost his entire customer base. I know what you mean though. It's nice to have that available but I could never bring myself to call a manufacturer at 4AM, even if it was a personal friend.

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Mark's an up late kinda dude. His neighbor has a horse. And apparently his other neighbor wants to get jiggy with him. So.. He stays busy.

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This is going downhill. I like it.
anyway, Buick was kind enough to PM me what happened. It's probably user error.... it happens. I think he said he will post what happened tomorrow.

So, it's not the horse that wants to get jiggy with Mark?

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I think Mark is a little different situation since DIYMA is almost his entire customer base. I know what you mean though. It's nice to have that available but I could never bring myself to call a manufacturer at 4AM, even if it was a personal friend.
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I thought when that started he simply said "unplug the mic, dumbass" or something to that effect. lol
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That what? He was out of the country when your issue started? It's not a conclusion, it's fact. Does ANYONE know what the problem is? You haven't even sent it to Arc yet. They could troubleshoot it over the internet but you haven't done that either.
It's not hard to understand. I had a problem. I called Arc. They said to send it in. I found the problem before I had a chance to send it in. Im waiting one more cold morning free of pops to call it good. As i said at least 3 times if what I did fixed it, the problem is my fault, something i screwed up. I'm not sure what's so hard to understand. If I weren't concerned about Arc's reputation I would just let this thread die with all of the shit talkers. If you take the time to read instead of looking for any excuse to talk shit I wouldn't have to keep repeating myself. So sit back and shut up or you might never know the outcome.
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Mostly because every time Fred DOES come on here, to help or not, some of the members get on the "Arc isn't a manufacturer" train and start talking all kinds of shit. I don't blame him. I wouldn't come here either.
Exactly!! He isn't the only company rep that has distanced themselves from this forum either.
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It's not hard to understand. I had a problem. I called Arc. They said to send it in. I found the problem before I had a chance to send it in. Im waiting one more cold morning free of pops to call it good. As i said at least 3 times if what I did fixed it, the problem is my fault, something i screwed up. I'm not sure what's so hard to understand. If I weren't concerned about Arc's reputation I would just let this thread die with all of the shit talkers. If you take the time to read instead of looking for any excuse to talk shit I wouldn't have to keep repeating myself. So sit back and shut up or you might never know the outcome.
I don't really care what the issue is. I know it's not the PS8 like all the "it's chip is not rated for automotive use" wagon jumpers claimed. If nothing else I just wanted to see people backpedal from a retarded WAG when you DID find the problem. Call it morbid curiosity.

And you REALLY need to get that chop off your shoulder. Jesus Christ...

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I don't really care what the issue is. I know it's not the PS8 like all the "it's chip is not rated for automotive use" wagon jumpers claimed. If nothing else I just wanted to see people backpedal from a retarded WAG when you DID find the problem. Call it morbid curiosity.

And you REALLY need to get that chop off your shoulder. Jesus Christ...
Me with a chip on MY shoulder? Have you ever read your own posts?

No one is going to back track. If anyone made a mistake it was only me. Believe me when I say I'm keeping the peace. If I summarized some PMs I've received from some very well respected members, no one who has posted in this thread, it would not end here. So tone down the self righteousness and enjoy the show.

The "wagon jumper" you talk about owned and sold his PS8 long before my post and he most certainly did not seem as though he was on any wagon. In fact it seemed just the opposite but I can't speak for him. . I'm not sure why you have to be on a wagon as you imply in the first place. Arcs customer service is top notch as is the PS8. You continue being Arcs #1 fan maybe you can get a mod to setup an alert to page you if there's any anti Arc propaganda and you can blindly defend their honor at all hours of the night.
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Big Red,
I cannot fix the jet engine noise. I'm not a code-writer. All I can do is replace units and I've replaced units in and out of warranty, purchased through authorized dealers and those not purchased through authorized dealers. I haven't avoided it and I've appreciated the help in troubleshooting that people on this forum have provided. I spend countless hours here answering all kinds of questions--MS-8 related and plenty of others. I've done my best to help you--in fact, you came to my house so I could help you tweak yours--you're not the only one, either.

To the rest:

I don't denigrate other people's products and that's more than I can say about a few of those who compete with my products. I do call out BS when I see it, though. I've purchased and explained the differences between MS-8 and BitOne, Alpine PXE-Hxx, CarPCs, Rockford 360 and every other processor available and have called out what they do well and why someone would choose them over MS-8. In fact, I've suggested several times to several people that they might be happier with a competing model. I've also put many of those other products through our reliability testing procedure, so I know how they fare in terms of longevity when they're installed in cars. In some cases, I probably know more about those things than their tech support people and their trainers do. When I travel and do clinics all over the world, I tune those products, But I don't bad-mouth them. Providing good products is hard work, whether that work is in designing from the ground up, designing part of the product, or specifying a product to be designed by someone else. When you go to the burger joint, is the hamburger worse or less worthy of respect if you find they've used Heinz ketchup rather than making their own? The experience in buying and using a product is a combination of product performance, purchase experience and customer service. I think that the latter is the most important, and that's why I do what I do.

As far as Arc not being a manufacturer? That's a bunch of crap. They spec their products, they have designers in house and they use consultants to do some additional design work. They have ODM (original design manufacturers) build the products, just like EVERY OTHER car audio COMPANY.

Here is a list of a few of thoseODMs who build products for everyone:

EverVictory (Amps, speakers, head units, subwoofers)
Ultimate Sound (Amps, speakers, subwoofers, cabinets)
Meiloon (Speakers, subwoofers)
Artco (Amps, speakers, subwoofers)
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And the list goes on and on and on. These companies provide design engineering and manufacturing. They'll build what you ask them to build, or you can choose from one of their designs. They usually won't build something better than what you ask for, so it's important to be involved and to be competent in working with them. That's the way it works. Arc Audio is no different than any other company--they design stuff and someone builds it.

Sorry to derail this thread. Buick, I hope you get your issue resolved.
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I'm sigging that shit.
I was thinking the exact same thing. I read that and literally said out loud "What?"

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I know one thing, when my wife gives me shit about staying up late all I have to do is point and say "Bob has a horse."

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Glock model 20.
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Think of it as sound deadening for horses.

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I was thinking the exact same thing. I read that and literally said out loud "What?"
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