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I don't see in his post where he states a 2 way center. For simplicity sake, I think I would just go as good and big of a coaxial as I could anyways.
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It would work perfectly for me.

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and rears (which will have mid & tweet right next to each other) and that's a wrap.

I wonder if 2 MS-8's could be strapped together for those with more complicated setups...


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Why would you need passive crossovers for the center and sub channel?! AFAIK each channel has a crossover option of HP, LP or BP. All 8 channels can be run actively.
1 way from MS-8 but going to 2 drivers.

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I think I would go 2 way active LCR+sub and thats that.
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This is looking like it might actually make it to the shelves this year.

I would love to run this as a 3-way L/R, coax or full range for center and a sub.

It would be nice if they made an expansion module for it though...maybe to run 3-way L/R, 2-way center, rears and a sub...but I am sure that is asking too much.

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This is looking like it might actually make it to the shelves this year.

I would love to run this as a 3-way L/R, coax or full range for center and a sub.

It would be nice if they made an expansion module for it though...maybe to run 3-way L/R, 2-way center, rears and a sub...but I am sure that is asking too much.

Please, 8 channels has taken them about 1.5 years and counting........don't throw any wrenches into the mix until its out!
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Yeah, I guess just getting the product first would be nice.

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Not sure that means much. To design it, they had to have written a technical specifications manual anyway months (well, at this point years) ago. They could have probably written an owners manual a long time before product can ship.

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This thing better come out soon
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NICE!! I hope its all its cracked up to be. Only thing is WHY 8 channels and not 10?!?!
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They could have probably written an owners manual a long time before product can ship.
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Not sure that means much. To design it, they had to have written a technical specifications manual anyway months (well, at this point years) ago. They could have probably written an owners manual a long time before product can ship.

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I just take it as another sign it will eventually come out.
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Yeah, my company makes VERY expensive VERY specific electronic devices used in the scientific field, and I can tell you for a fact that the owners manual is the LAST thing they do. Sometimes it's done after the first couple of instruments have been sold LOL.
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Yeah, my company makes VERY expensive VERY specific electronic devices used in the scientific field, and I can tell you for a fact that the owners manual is the LAST thing they do. Sometimes it's done after the first couple of instruments have been sold LOL.
Can't wait to read it. Then again.......JBL manuals suck @$$.
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Trust me you don't want to read it. Written usually by French Canadians and they don't really care that their english isn't very good
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I emailed Andy just this week. From what he has told me, it will be out by the end of summer. That is what I am shooting for.
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End of summer? For a user manual and some boxes? Hmm...

If that's true, something tells me they're not yet actually finished with the MS-8 itself.

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End of summer? For a user manual and some boxes? Hmm...

If that's true, something tells me they're not yet actually finished with the MS-8 itself.
4-5 months...it's a bit long but doesn't seem that unreasonable, depending on where they'll be sourcing the printing/packaging/etc. fwiw, i don't remember them saying user manual and boxes are all that's left...it's simply what they're working on at this point.
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After this amount of time, I would assume they are picking a very outside date. What's two more months after 2 years?
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I know a while back Andy said he was going to quit making assumptions and shoot for a worst case date. He was tired of having to tell us it was delayed.
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Well, I sure hope so. We'll see.

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Andy (or anyone who knows the answer), I have a couple of quick questions for you.

1) Currently, I plan on installing a set of polk's SR6500 in my car in just a few weeks. However, I have read before that the speaker does not make the system good, rather the tuning. So, with such a good processor/automatic tuner, would such great speakers lose their advantage over middle-of-the-range speakers? If they would lose their advantage, how "good" of a speaker would be required for optimal sound quality?

2) With this new processor, I hear a lot of talk about a center channel. Is there any advantage to a center channel besides giving the other passengers an accurate sound stage?

3) What type of speaker should the center channel be, a full range speaker, a tweeter, or a component set?

4) Assuming the answer to question #1 is better speakers are still advantageous, does the same apply to the center channel? In other words, does the center channel need to be an equivalent speaker to the L and R speakers, or can it be treated like rear fill in the sense that just an decent speaker is required?

Thanks so much. I look forward to owning a MS-8 in the near future!
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1. Average speaker in a great spot will probably do better than a great speaker in a poor spot. After that, poor tuning can cause issues as well (imagine well prepared Filet Mignon.... with ketchup on top... or no seasoning at all). Good ingredients, plus good location plus good preparation.

2 + 3. Depends, the above still applies. Spectrally you probably want to run similar speakers to the ones you already have in the left and right location, if not the same (sometimes compromises are made or changes made because of how the speaker will be located... but if you notice, lots of systems for home theater have 3 fronts or all 5 speakers (in a 5.1 system) the same. That might create a problem in most cars (since people usually go with as big as will fit in the doors/kickpanels/dash for left and right) and finding "extra" space in the dash might be a problem.

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1) Currently, I plan on installing a set of polk's SR6500 in my car in just a few weeks. However, I have read before that the speaker does not make the system good, rather the tuning. So, with such a good processor/automatic tuner, would such great speakers lose their advantage over middle-of-the-range speakers? If they would lose their advantage, how "good" of a speaker would be required for optimal sound quality?

2) With this new processor, I hear a lot of talk about a center channel. Is there any advantage to a center channel besides giving the other passengers an accurate sound stage?

3) What type of speaker should the center channel be, a full range speaker, a tweeter, or a component set?

4) Assuming the answer to question #1 is better speakers are still advantageous, does the same apply to the center channel? In other words, does the center channel need to be an equivalent speaker to the L and R speakers, or can it be treated like rear fill in the sense that just an decent speaker is required?

Thanks so much. I look forward to owning a MS-8 in the near future!
I had damn near the same questions. Visit hear and read the thread in its entirety to get your answers:

http://www.audiogroupforum.com/csfor...highlight=ms-8

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1. Average speaker in a great spot will probably do better than a great speaker in a poor spot. After that, poor tuning can cause issues as well (imagine well prepared Filet Mignon.... with ketchup on top... or no seasoning at all). Good ingredients, plus good location plus good preparation.

2 + 3. Depends, the above still applies. Spectrally you probably want to run similar speakers to the ones you already have in the left and right location, if not the same (sometimes compromises are made or changes made because of how the speaker will be located... but if you notice, lots of systems for home theater have 3 fronts or all 5 speakers (in a 5.1 system) the same. That might create a problem in most cars (since people usually go with as big as will fit in the doors/kickpanels/dash for left and right) and finding "extra" space in the dash might be a problem.

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Actually the rear sides and rears only need to play down to 150Hz to create the affect, Andy actually recommends it like this way instead of playing lower even if you are able to.
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