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Can anyone shed some light on how well the auto-tune (imprint) works compared to an MS-8?
don't think you're gonna wanna spend the 800$ on this piece just to use auto tune. i think the ms-8 has it beat, and the new "ms8" will have it beat on auto as well. the rocker fosgate would probably also do a decent auto tune, they put some time into it from what I hear.

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What is the new MS-8?

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don't think you're gonna wanna spend the 800$ on this piece just to use auto tune. i think the ms-8 has it beat, and the new "ms8" will have it beat on auto as well. the rocker fosgate would probably also do a decent auto tune, they put some time into it from what I hear.
Why not? Imprint is no joke and it has been updated on the H800. It's not like you're paying $800 for just an auto tune unit like the MS-8.
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What is the new MS-8?
i dont know, i heard somebody call it the ps8 or something but who knows, rumor mills are saying they have the chasie worked out. and are working on developing it and should have something for CES2012.

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I definitely not surprised that the h800 hasn't come out yet, alpine has always been wrong on there release dates, if they give a release date then it probably means next year, the only stuff that comes out on time is the stuff that no one knows about before ces and they are already producing
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i dont know, i heard somebody call it the ps8 or something but who knows, rumor mills are saying they have the chasie worked out. and are working on developing it and should have something for CES2012.
There is no new ms-8.

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Can anyone shed some light on how well the auto-tune (imprint) works compared to an MS-8?
Ms8 still is the king of auto-tune. That thing is a genius, tunes in a couple of minutes what other processors take much longer, and does it really well. Having said that, H800 offers a little more user controlabilty especially in the time alignment department (although we have never heard anyone with MS8 having issues with time alignment). The availability of optical inputs is another plus on the H800.
I haven't had too much success using H800's autotune, but when tuning manually, it is a very very capable processor and i am loving it. Still haven't tried the RoadEQ feature yet.

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There is no new ms-8.

The ps-8 is Arc's processor. It's notching like the ms-8.
ahh see this is why i said I wasn't sure about it. i must of missread the post, they must of done the same thing id id. lol and the cycles continues, now somebodys gonna read my post and think it's a true rumor


far as auto tune vs manual vrs hybrid, the biggest hindge for me when i had an ms-8 was not being to hear the different slopes and cross over points instantly because changing the cross over points and slopes changes the T\A so ms-8 didnt let you change them once it calibrated. i did hear their is a code you can put into the ms-8 to unlock these things but it's extremeley hard to get ahold of, ive knowen people who had direct inside connections with JBl who still coudln't get ahold of this code.

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ahh see this is why i said I wasn't sure about it. i must of missread the post, they must of done the same thing id id. lol and the cycles continues, now somebodys gonna read my post and think it's a true rumor


far as auto tune vs manual vrs hybrid, the biggest hindge for me when i had an ms-8 was not being to hear the different slopes and cross over points instantly because changing the cross over points and slopes changes the T\A so ms-8 didnt let you change them once it calibrated. i did hear their is a code you can put into the ms-8 to unlock these things but it's extremeley hard to get ahold of, ive knowen people who had direct inside connections with JBl who still coudln't get ahold of this code.
What is the point of saying stuff like this other than hearing yourself talk? Why would you want a "top secret" code that defeats the purpose of the MS8? Part of the reason MS8 works so well is how it uses T/A to adjust and match phase at the crossover point. Change the point or the slope and it needs to be adjusted. So even if you DID have this code (that I have never heard of) and COULD make these changes, they wouldn't be an A/B comparison and therefore stupid to even want IMHO.

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hello ,

i just bought a used PXA-H800 and don`t have an installation CD ... could some one be kind enough to give me a download link for the software or upload an image file somewhere ?

i am so mad cause can not fiind the software anyware ... just got it tonight and can`t do a thing ...
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What is the point of saying stuff like this other than hearing yourself talk? Why would you want a "top secret" code that defeats the purpose of the MS8? Part of the reason MS8 works so well is how it uses T/A to adjust and match phase at the crossover point. Change the point or the slope and it needs to be adjusted. So even if you DID have this code (that I have never heard of) and COULD make these changes, they wouldn't be an A/B comparison and therefore stupid to even want IMHO.
i'm not talking nore am i hearing anything when i post. but thanks for bashing me unprovoked. and we all know why these things are locked, i'm just saying the code would be nice for those who wish to tweak things, let them also deal with the fall out.

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is there a way of using antEQ without that imprint EQ ?

just tried the imprint eq in my house cause i haven`t had the time to set the pxa in my car and it sounds horible ... i like my manual eq better but i would like antEQ because my oem radio has factory EQ`ing .

it seems i can not activate the antEQ without imprint EQ ...

why did they not use Audyssey with the H800 ? this imprint really sucks ... i have an onkyo reciever with audyssey and it gives great results ...
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I'm seriously thinking about getting one.

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On the PXE-H650 and H660: Imprint = AntiEQ + Audyssey Multi-EQ. I thought it was the same on the H800.
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On the PXA-h800 there is no Audyssey Multi-Eq it is their own Imprint EQ ... i think it is the same ... it doesn`t say Audyssey anywhere look in the manual .... no Audyssey logo on the box or anywhere ...

can you deactivade Mutli Eq in the PXE-H650 and H660 but still keep AntiEQ active ?
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On the PXA-h800 there is no Audyssey Multi-Eq it is their own Imprint EQ ... i think it is the same ... it doesn`t say Audyssey anywhere look in the manual .... no Audyssey logo on the box or anywhere ...

can you deactivade Mutli Eq in the PXE-H650 and H660 but still keep AntiEQ active ?
Correct, it is their own auto EQ. Nothing to do with Audyssey this time around. Jim Walters talks about it somewhere in this thread.
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Any updates on this? My H660 is decent, but I just dont have the freedom that I want with it. Im tempted to jump on the 2X8 miniDSP...
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If you don't need ainet interface and you can get by without having to use a controller (ie: you don't mind being restricted by a laptop), you don't need 5.1, and you don't need or want auto tune... In other words, you want a standard use DSP ... Skip this piece and go with the helix pdsp. It is a much better processor in regards to DSP features.

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If you don't need ainet interface and you can get by without having to use a controller (ie: you don't mind being restricted by a laptop), you don't need 5.1, and you don't need or want auto tune... In other words, you want a standard use DSP ... Skip this piece and go with the helix pdsp. It is a much better processor in regards to DSP features.
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My H800 is version 1.001.

My mid-left output has no sound, and outputs a hissing sound. Anyone experience a silent but hissing sound from one of the H800 outputs?
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ahh but the P99 is a PITA to use :P

ease of use is a pretty big factor for me, the menus of the P99 just make no sense, why the hell should you have to go through multiple menus just to pause?
lack of multiple presets is a pretty big fail, only having presets for the TA and EQ is pretty annoying and there is no master preset.
the TA just makes no sense, when I want to delay the right side, I have to adjust the left side, just weird. yes I know the reasoning but it is just not logical or natural.
Just press the DF button on the remote to pause.

I've had mild success tuning my P99RS. Yes, there is a steep learning curve but I'd you're familiar with tuning the P80 or P90, tuning the P99 is actually straightforward.
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Alpine AUSSIE has updated firmware upgarades.

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The update has been around for ages, stop debating and just buy the darn thing, you will love it!
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Here is a post I wrote earlier:
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First you need to install Virtual PC, (if your Win7 edition supports it)
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Tried vmware player running winxp over windows7 x64. Can't get vmware to recognize the H800 when plugged in to the laptop's USB port. Tried all ports, no luck.

Any tips?
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Tried vmware player running winxp over windows7 x64. Can't get vmware to recognize the H800 when plugged in to the laptop's USB port. Tried all ports, no luck.

Any tips?
Have you selected "Connect (disconnect from host)" in VMWare VM-menu's removable devices? H800 should be available there with unknow device, serial device or something like that. USB devices are not (thru)connected to the virtual machine unless you do that.
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