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First off, I want to start off by saying that I enjoy the hate I get because I have an "ugly" car. My last vehicle was a 2005 Subaru Outback XT with a stage 1 tune from Infamous Performance. It was a ton of fun to drive, and I really loved the car. What I didn't love was 14 MPG w/ Premium gas. My car payment went up 100.00 a month, and my gas went down 300 a month. My maintenance is included in the Prius by Toyota and my oil changes on the Outback were around 70.00 every 2 months. This is how I ended up with an "ugly" car.

And here he is...(It's a he - Black Mamba) :laugh:




The sole purpose of this build is to have the most clean, clear, crisp and accurate sound possible, while maintaining as close to a stock appearance as I can. I am really looking forward to this build and the components I have chosen. I had a lot of help from someone here, who really spent a lot of time speaking with me about my goals and doing his best to help me stay in my budget. I ended up spending more than I had planned, but I didn't cut any corners and I am looking forward to the end result.

Current Parts List
Signal: Factory
Processing: Mosconi 6to8 V8
Sub: Image Dynamics iDMax12 receiving roughly 1200w from an Alpine PDX-M12
Front Stage: The front stage will be three-way and powered by (2) Alpine PDX-V9s. Each mid-bass will receive 500w. The tweeters and mids will be getting 200w each.

I will be attempting to complete the install in the spare tire cargo area of the rear hatch. I should be able to get all three amps, the 6to8 and the iDMax12 hidden away.

Friday and Saturday will be the official start of the build. I will be starting the enclosure and amp rack before work. I live in an apartment and don't have a private garage to work in, so I will be depending a lot on my buddy to supply the tools and work space.

Note: I am a member of this forum because I appreciate the craftsmanship that many of you possess, as well as the knowledge and experience one can obtain from learning from others. I truly ask you to be as critical as possible in helping me improve my project. I am committed to learning from all of you.
 

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i don't think this generation of prius is ugly at all, they've gotten a lot better over the years. i actually really like the shape of them, they just use to have ugly front ends and rear ends. i considered getting a prius c last month but ended up with a honda fit.

interested to see how this one turns out for sure :)
 

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It's not a terribly ugly car...and you like headroom I see....in for moar pics


Sent from under your mom's bed
 

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-- I appreciate the subs and the support guys. And just for the record, I enjoy the way the car looks. It's not like my last two cars where every time I parked, I turned around and looked at it, but it was a very practical choice for me, and I am very happy with it for those reasons.

-- I took some measurements a couple of days ago with the assistance of a non-supportive 16 year old sister - who did not want to hold the measuring tape straight :laugh:. But this should give a good idea of what kind of space i'm working with. Let's get to know the car.

-- Image 1 is where the battery is located in the vehicle. It is located in the rear hatch, on the passenger side, under the factory floor. I plan to run 1/0 awg for my power and ground, into a Streetwires CBR44M, combo distribution block and fuse holder. I am not sure where I want to put the ground right now. I am thinking I can just mount it on the negative battery post. (Thoughts?) From there I will be running 4 gauge in to each amp. I really like the form factor of the CBR44M. I purchased it from a DIYMA forum member a couple of days ago.


-- Image 2 is the center cover for the factory false floor. The Prius has a super deep spare and extra cargo space area that is accessed by opening this cover. I am going to try and reuse this. I might add a little MDF or CLD to the bottom to give it some more mass, but I am going to hold off until I have the sub playing and see what I think.


-- Image 3 and 4 is the next layer down. This is the cargo storage area located under the false floor. It is actually a really cool feature the car has. Previously I used it for my surf stuff, but I am going to be purchasing a rubber mat. Notice the width of the area I have to work with. This is basically the width I have to work with for my amps. Image 4 shows what the space looks like with the cargo tray removed. (I know you can't read the tape)



-- Image 5 is the depth from the bottom of the spare to the bottom of the factory cover. I have 15 inches to work with from the deepest portion of the well. If you take a look at JT's Prius install, you can see that his enclosure was angled at the base to provide a level mounting surface. I haven't yet determined how I plan do achieve this. The other thing to take notice of is the overhang. This takes away a small amount of space for me to work with. No biggie.


-- Image 6 shows the max length of the well. I wont be able to take advantage of the 25", for the reason I mentioned above, as well as the curvature at the most rear portion.


-- Image 7 is the width of the well, once again, we have rounded corners and some curves, so I wont have the full area to work with.


-- Image 8 explains itself.


-- At this time, I wont be attempting to glass. I think it's what I will want to do in the long run, but I want to try a solid wood build first. I have a lot of volume to work with already, and I think that would be the only advantage over the MDF. I roughly calculated the type of volume I can get out of the space, and I roughly came up with 2.31 Ft3. If someone would like to run some numbers for me, please do. This calculation was based on a 22"x22"x11" square box. (Like I said, it's a very rough calculation).
I am including the spec sheet from ID as a reference.


-- Moving on, I picked up some DIYMA 14 gauge speaker wire.


-- To get the signal from the factory radio, I will be running some speaker wire from behind the factory radio to this. I considered using a line driver or a converter, but was talked out of it because they thought that due to the added connections, it was a potential location to add noise.


-- Out of the Mosconi 6to8v8, I am still not sure what interconnects I want to run. I am definitely on a tight budget and looking for suggestions if you are up for it. I am currently considering the following:
Amazon.com : Rockford Fosgate Twisted Pair 6-Feet Signal Cable : Vehicle Amplifier Stereo Patch Cables : Car Electronics
Stinger SI426 2-Channel 4000 Series RCA Interconnect Cable
Stinger SI226 6 Ft 2000 Series 2-Channel RCA Interconnect Cable
Rockford Fosgate RFIT-6 (rfit6) 6' (1.8 m.) 2-Channel Dual Twist RCA Interconnect Cable
StreetWires ZN1220 ZeroNoise 1 Series 2-Ch RCA Interconnect 2m (6.6 ft.)
StreetWires ZN3220 ZeroNoise 3 Series 2-Ch RCA Interconnect 2m (6.6 ft.)
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=102&cp_id=10218&cs_id=1021814&p_id=2864&seq=1&format=2

-- I also picked up a 32 sqft pack of Second Skin Damplifer (bstock). I am really unhappy with the thickness of the butyl, but we will see how it works after the install. I grabbed a speaker tweaker kit for the doors as well. Also, I reached out to someone to get a price on some MLV.

-- Lastly, for tonight, I was hoping someone could give me some input on the Blackhole Stuff. I am wondering if I should consider grabbing some for my enclosure. I have plenty of volume, but will it improve the sound quality at all?
 

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The first set of Rockford RCA's you linked to are really great for the money. Super flexible and there is a very well known installer on this forum that posts build logs who uses them quite a bit. A lot of times to hook up Mosconi amps and processors :)

They will be your best bang for the buck in my opinion.
 

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The first set of Rockford RCA's you linked to are really great for the money. Super flexible and there is a very well known installer on this forum that posts build logs who uses them quite a bit. A lot of times to hook up Mosconi amps and processors :)

They will be your best bang for the buck in my opinion.
I thought they looked like the ones Bing uses, but the Monoprice ones are really tempting.
 

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-- A couple more small updates...

Some Sub Porn...iDMax12 is one - heavy - mother.




-- Also, I was reminded that I also needed some Y connectors to bridge the amps. I ended up picking up these and a panel removal tool.


-- Well, that's it for today. Tomorrow morning my buddy and I are starting early. The PDX amps shipping was delayed an extra week, so i'm a bit bummed about that.

More to come...
 

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I thought they looked like the ones Bing uses, but the Monoprice ones are really tempting.
I was actually talking about the builds from Musicar Northwest but either way. Sounds like you got it sorted out. I think Bing uses stinger interconnects .
 

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The lakers flag used to be on display 24/7, but I haven't tried it with the prius yet. I have 2 new ones that are still in packaging. Prius has a safety feature where the windows stop if they hit something. Not sure if it will work with that. But I also have a little Kobe tribute planned.
 

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Too big to fit in the spare tire well?


Beware of autocorrect...
-- Haha, It was a bit of a joke. I am doing this with my buddy, and when we measured, I was like "lets take a little off and play it safe". I think I said that and we did that about 3 or 4 times when measuring.

-- Well, we built the box and we were super happy with it, but when we sat it in the car, it ended up sitting a little differently then our flat cuts... It was strange. I think it grew!

Few things I used....
Deck Screws

Gorilla Wood Glue


-- I am going to just let the pics do the talking...









-- Test fit



-- After the box was assembled, I used some silicone caulking


-- After I rubbed the corners down really well with the caulk :p, we attached the top.


-- A couple of the fitment pics....










-- The gap between the factory false floor and the enclosure



-- The next couple of days I plan to put down some dampening materials, CLD, Ensolite, MLV. Like I mentioned above, I have to work around others schedules. We are short staffed at work right now and im working 1PM-10PM Friday-Tuesday.. No fun

-- Now that the construction of the box is complete, minus the carpet or vinyl, I will be able to map out the layout of the amps and processor.

more to come...
 
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