Great kit of gear and explanations! Subbed for this one. Can’t wait to see those K2 Ms.
I know we have spoke offline about the challenges each situation and both can have nice outcomes. But if the angles of your dash, pillars and windshield are similar to my vehicle, I’ll be hard to convince that you’ll get the same end result (how it sounds and stages, not just how it measures) as I know just the change to mostly on axis tweeters made a really noticeable change to how my front stage sounded, despite it measuring the exact smart.I’ve heard the same, but after a few days to ponder on it, I’m not comfortable putting my $2,000 tweeters on the doors where they’ll get rained on. I just can’t do it. 🙂
I’ve been told that they’d be fine, but I’ll sleep better if they’re not getting wet as often as they would be down here. The tweets are inboard on the pods, and will be angled back toward the the driver’s seat a little. My tuner feels the tweets will perform just as well on the pillars as they would in the sails. Overall, the tuning will be much easier for him since he won’t have to deal with the midranges reflecting off the windshield. He went into a lot of science and theory (drew several diagrams even) that honestly went way over my head, but he seemed excited, which makes me excited! 😂
I guess we’ll see soon!
Yeah, I have to agree here, the corner dash location just provides too many advantages to me, especially with fairly insensitive mids like the 3.5wm/K2 m. You get tons of free output from corner loading (this is significant from 200-2000hz, like 6-7 db in my truck), much better response below 400hz from being mostly IB and even though they roll off (not really roll off, more losing the effects of the corner loading) around 2.2k, they respond to boost pretty easily up to 2.5k and the TBM won’t have any issuing crossing around there. Also they stage nice and wide.I live in southeast Texas…we get our share of rain as well. I just keep a microfiber towel in the console and lay it on the sail panel if it’s raining hard. I knew going in I’d have to deal with it. I always said I’d never do kick panels either but here we are. lol
As far as windshield reflections with dash mounted mids…it’s just not an issue. Look at what Rick has been doing with his truck.
Done. Full 3-way Utopia it is. No going back now. 😊
@UNBROKEN , what have we done?I know how you feel, I have a 3way utopia M on the way and currently have the Audison thesis as my setup 🤦🏿♂️
I have to agree there.I don’t think there’s anything better at that price point…and I’m not convinced even at a higher price point.
Nick already told me he’s building my pillars to allow them to be swapped in the future lol.I would say within a year 😂
I have one coming for mine - need to have it modded to fit around my dash pods but curious to see if it makes any substantial changes.The dash mats are used to cut down on reflections in the vehicle. They work.
Dash Designs, Sedona Suede is what I ordered. @UNBROKEN said he tried a few and had the best luck with that manufacturer and modelWhere does one acquire one of these magical mats?
I'd leave it. Any real estate in an amp rack is precious to me.Question…what does everyone think about squaring the amp rack side off? Instead of leaving the the corner open, the trim piece would be recut to cover both front corners. It would still be open underneath. See red line below. Thoughts?
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I still like keeping it open but it's your truck, not DIYMA'sThat area is 7 inches deep. There will be a floating rack that brings the depth to about 2.5 inches, with room underneath for wire management. This will bring the amps up almost flush with the top. The little nook would still be open, just covered on top. I’m thinking the HUB will fit there nicely, with the rest of the real estate being used for the three VXi amps. That being said, everyone still feel the same?
Hell yeah man. Did you listen to Jeff’s car?Made it to MTI. This is my first time visiting their shop. Holy crap…it’s Disney World for car audio and hot rod geeks. The guys are really awesome and I was able to demo one of their many award winning installs. This was a momentous occasion as it was the first time I’ve had the privilege of listening to a true, over the top, SQ install and tune.
The bar has been set, and that freaking bar is extremely high. The demo by itself was worth the 5 hour drive. I will be back down here in a month for a tune by MTI. If nothing else, I’ll have a good A/B comparison.
Side note: JL ZR800s are the real deal! Damn son! I will probably upgrade to the Utopia 8s before the end of summer. I just thought I knew what dynamic mid-bass sounded like. Ha, I couldn’t have been more wrong. An upfront sub in the passenger footwell may be in the works also. The 10WM would fit there nicely. It’s like freaking magic.
A-pillar pods are in-hand and I couldn’t be happier with the final product. Simply beautiful. Now on to Wichita Falls, TX for tomorrow’s acquisition. 😁
Be safe man!I see why @RickWilson was rolling with spikes in his tires now. I made it to Decatur, TX tonight. Way too dangerous to keep driving north until the sun comes up. I had to use 4x4 the last ten miles or so. Traveled about 30 miles at 30 MPH. The roads are nothing but a nice sheet of ice up here. I lost count of the number of cars in the ditch. Nerves were shot when I finally walked/slid into the hotel. 60 miles to go in the morning. I’ll carry that enclosure back to Louisiana strapped to my back, while pushing the truck, if need be. 😵💫
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Love that ground block design. Things are gettin closer and closer!Chopping wood. Getting there.
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I was gonna say, these pods play really well with this interior.Can't help but say I'm a little envious as your pods blend better than the GMC counterparts from the same company
100% on this. Mids and midbass changed quite a bit after about 2-3 weeks. They really loosen up, in a good way. But the midbass (at least the 8wm) was very stiff out of the gate. It had less more output than my 2 ohm BLAM for the first couple of days stiff. But after a few weeks, they really got way more musical but needed some gain pushed back into them.Just plan on a retune after 50-60 hours minimum. Over 100 would be even better. The Utopia stuff takes a minute to break in and smooth out. @RickWilson can back me up on that.
I'd say the Utopias need about 60-80 hours of break in to really open up but I would wait until you get a swing in temp/humidity during the summer months to get the re-tune done. It shouldn't be drastic but will be worth it with level of gear you know have.After the 20 plus hours of tuning, maybe I won't need a retune. 😁
We're doing a couple different tunes in the truck, and trying to accomplish something close to true rear-fill with one of them. Hopefully, I'll have the truck tonight for demoing. Fingers crossed!
Good call - my mat has been rolled up on my other desk for about 2 months.Just iron it. Mine had some wrinkles in it that wouldn’t lay out…10 minutes with an iron and it’s flat as can be.