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I got an '07 Crew Cab Silverado Classic.

I run all Zapco C2K Amps, so the Designated Sub Amp will be a 6.0, so the 4 12's will see roughly 300wrms each and the 4 13.5's will see just under 300wrms each (because JL has to be different and use 3ohm Coils.)

I like my Music LOUD and to be able to play the Low, Gut Wrenching, Door Flexing Bass. I know this is a damn near impossible thing to achieve with a Flat Sub (or so I think), but it's all I got to work with due to the Limited Mounting Depth.

Going by Overall Size, Box Requirements, and avail. Power, it looks like to me the RE's would be the better Speaker to go with, and Price, I can get 2 RE's for almost what 1 JL Costs. But I wanna know what you Guys think.

Last Year I went and Demo'd all the Flat Subs that were out at the Time and they all Sounded like they were Blown. They Sounded like absolute ASS. Then I heard 1 13TW5 in an '08 Silverado Crew Cab, under the Rear Seat, facing Up. It Sounded REALLY nice. So I know what that Sub Sounds like.

I don't wanna get the RE's and them Sound like all the OTHER Flat Subs I Heard, BLOWN.

So what do ya'll think? :confused: :D
 

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Do the math. Assuming both subs will fit and you have enough airspace for either choice, how much air will each sub displace and multiply that by the number of subs.
 

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other people say that JL's are overpriced compared to others. if you're on a budget, i'd say that if you're not sure, then you might want to consider listening to the masses.

always trust your own ears first I suppose
 

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Are they expensive? Duh. Are they better than ANY other flat sub? Absolutely. Are they better than a lot of conventional subs? Again, absolutely.

They do take FOREVER to break in but they're a really great sub.
 

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Buying the cheaper unheard option just because it is cheaper option is kinda dumb to me....Having to rebuy everything cause you are dissappointed with your outcome costs you twice as much...Still have to buy the other option you wanted to start with...Try and listen to both yourself Don't go buy what some people on here say... Everything in the Car Audio world is very Subjective and application dependant...But word on the street is those TW5's are HARD to beat in underseat enclosures...LOL...
 

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Yea, but the thing is, I don't have any Local RE Dealers out here by me. So it would just be by Hearing other peoples Opinions on them, or watching them in Vids on YouTube which doesn't really do anything.

And if they do infact Sound just as good as the JL's or even better and I never know that, I'd be pissed knowing that I coulda saved a couple $100 Dollars.

The only way to do it would be Buy 1 of each and Model them in the Truck, OR if someone here has Heard both, give me their Honest Opinion.
 

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What would you rather have? A sub moving as much as it can to make good bass or one not working as hard? There's a reason most of the old school low Xmax subs sound better than a lot of the new "look how far it moves" subs. Sure they're expensive, but they're very, very good.
 

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What would you rather have? A sub moving as much as it can to make good bass or one not working as hard? There's a reason most of the old school low Xmax subs sound better than a lot of the new "look how far it moves" subs. Sure they're expensive, but they're very, very good.
we are talking 16mm for the re nothing like 30mm, the jl has like 9mm with about 640cm of cone area and the re has something like 460cm, I dont think 16mm is alot, 9mm is alittle there are midbass that has that xmax and can still retain control, its all about design, now if the re retains control of the cone I dont know since I havent heard or played with one

Like i said I dont doubt that they are good but not worth that much IMO
 

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16mm doesn't SEEM like a lot but it's all relative. Look at the old school monsters. I don't remember ANY having more than 10mm until the Strokers came out.

Have you at least HEARD the TW5? If not, then "IMO" doesn't really amount to much does it? Not trying to be an ass but commenting on product you haven't owned or used is kinda silly.
 

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16mm doesn't SEEM like a lot but it's all relative. Look at the old school monsters. I don't remember ANY having more than 10mm until the Strokers came out.

Have you at least HEARD the TW5? If not, then "IMO" doesn't really amount to much does it? Not trying to be an ass but commenting on product you haven't owned or used is kinda silly.
I am commenting on displacement, I never said anything about tonality of the speakers, so please dont give any of that silly crap, Yes I have heard one at my local dealer but thats it, and that isnt relavent to what I was saying about displacement

Your doing the same thing you said "is silly" have you owned or used a RE SL sub????????? How do you know your JL sounds better if you havent heard the RE huh?
 

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I understand you're talking about displacement. But is a lot of displacement from a sub that doesn't sound good worth anything? I'm not saying that the RE doesn't sound good, I'm just saying it's an incomplete argument at best, that's all.

Yes, I owned a XXX. It was a nice sub. It was also expensive as hell and impractical in most cars because it's HUGE.

But my argument wasn't even about which sounded better, only that your argument is flawed.
 

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I understand you're talking about displacement. But is a lot of displacement from a sub that doesn't sound good worth anything? I'm not saying that the RE doesn't sound good, I'm just saying it's an incomplete argument at best, that's all.

Yes, I owned a XXX. It was a nice sub. It was also expensive as hell and impractical in most cars because it's HUGE.

But my argument wasn't even about which sounded better, only that your argument is flawed.
How is it flawed when we are talking about displacement? he doesnt want a sub that sounds blown, does that mean he wants sq? This is in the SPL section and in the OP's original post "LOUD" is there in capitals.

And "SQ" is in the ear of the beholder. I personally think that all JL subs sound bloated and fat, not real transparent and natural, other disagree but I dont care because SQ to me is what sounds good to me not others
 

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We weren't talking ONLY about displacement but I can see where you're coming from. If he had room for ported the REs win hands down because the TW5s can't be used that way.
 

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hehe, i love when subwoofer talks turn technical. I'm a techie myself but sometimes just need to step back and say to myself "It just matters what it sounds like to me at the end of the day".

Go with what you can hear, or just make the leap based on a couple of people's opinions and hope that you don't have to change later!
 

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How is it flawed when we are talking about displacement? he doesnt want a sub that sounds blown, does that mean he wants sq? This is in the SPL section and in the OP's original post "LOUD" is there in capitals.

And "SQ" is in the ear of the beholder. I personally think that all JL subs sound bloated and fat, not real transparent and natural, other disagree but I dont care because SQ to me is what sounds good to me not others
I said I don't want a Sub that Sounds Blown, because EVERY Flat, Shallow, Thin Mount, whatever you wanna call it, Sub I Heard, with the exception of the JL, all Sounded like there were Blown. They had a nasty Buzz goin on whenever the Bass would Hit.

The JL didn't. When I Heard the 1 TW5 in the Silverado, it was phenomenal. It had an E-Series JL Amp on it, was Facing Up under the Rear Seat. It had the Tightness and Accuracy of a 10 or 12, but could DEF grab the Lows like a 15, and made no Buzz at all, even on a Low 20hz Range Bassline.
 

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Well I now have two TW5's under the rear seat of my 08 Silverado Crew Cab with a JL HD 750/1 on them and could not be happier...I need to beef upy charging system it goes below 9 volts now.
I switched from what most people said were the next best thing the Memphis SClass 12's and the TW5's are better but alot more money too. Don't get me wrong the SClass are nice and if your looking to save some money that would be an option. They handle 500 watts easy I had a PDX 1000.1 on them, they do not sound blown, play the low bass you can feel, and if you put 4 of them in should get plenty loud. Just my .02 cents give them a listen if your looking for a cheaper option easier to find Memphis Dealer than RE!
 

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O yea how are you gonna fit 4 of any of the subs you listed in a crew cab truck? I can see MAYBE 3 but how could you get the air space for 4?.. Are you thinking of taking your back seat out?
 

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O yea how are you gonna fit 4 of any of the subs you listed in a crew cab truck? I can see MAYBE 3 but how could you get the air space for 4?.. Are you thinking of taking your back seat out?
Behind the Back Seat. My whole Rear Seat Folds Down, instead of like your Truck where only the Bottom Flips up.

I can easily get 2cu/ft behind there, closer to 3 if I 'Glass it.
 
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