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im looking for for a newer sub that overall is about the same as the old mid 90's kicker c12's.
 

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No. Everything is still built in the U.S.. They lost buisness to China like everyone else and are now attempting to sell direct. Prices are a bit high though. If you have a resale lisc. you should be able to order for wholesale.
 

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price is not my main concern. i just loved the way they sounded back in the day. it seems like a lot of subs now need a **** load of power. while back in 95 a had 2 c12s and an hcca 250 and was more bass than i ever needed.
 

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so these credence are not exactly the same? im trying to remember but i think the basket looks different but im not sure.
I think by 'newer subs' he meant the chinese made junk that a lot of companies have moved to, not the Credence stuff. Kicker C12 never had cast frames anyway.
 
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