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The guy made a thread on some new amps he received. I'm sure he was excited to show the community. I don't understand what people's issues are here. I love seeing photos and reading comments about these ultra high end amps, speakers, DSP, etc.

Keep posting these threads Porsche! Love seeing them, especially your previous build logs from Audio X!
 

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I LIKE me some amp porn and the pics that Porsche posted are definetely worthy amp porn!!!

That said, I can say without a doubt that diyma as a forum has strayed far from its roots, though IMO that has nothing to do with Porsche and everything to do with the recent ownership and admin change.
 

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I LIKE me some amp porn and the pics that Porsche posted are definetely worthy amp porn!!!

That said, I can say without a doubt that diyma as a forum has strayed far from its roots, though IMO that has nothing to do with Porsche and everything to do with the recent ownership and admin change.
Let's not fool ourselves. The forum is what the members make of it. Focus deviated from "doing it home grown on the cheap" years ago.

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I don't get why a few get so butt hurt over a few pics. Be glad he showed them as most will never get to see them in person. If I spent 30-40K on just amps I'd damn sure get a pro to do a top notch install as would most people. Besides, who wouldn't want Nick doing their install?
 

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I have the same question although I dont ever knock a man and his money or ability to spend his money. I would love to hear a head to head testing to see if you would hear or test any differences in a 8k amp and lets say a 1K amp. I think at a certain point you just hit diminishing returns. This just reminds me when I purchased my first what I call decent watch. My father saw it and asked about price. reluctantly told him and he went upstairs and got his Timex which was something like 10 years old. He sat it on the table and said you paid x amount more than this and it does the same thing, tells time.

Beautiful amps either way and looking forward to the install.
I sold home hifi while I was at Uni in the early '90s, dream job. Our two stores had some remarkable gear and some of it was very rare and expensive.

The question isn't "does gear sound different or better", it's whether you can afford it, whether you can justify it in terms of value, or whatever else motivates you.

The AU$10,000 Nakamichi 200 watt pc into 8 ohms pre power and the Marantz PM95 AU$6,000 integrated were unbelievable. The Nakamichi tape decks were amazing too, the Dragon and the other top models. The two box Marantz CD12LE was getting close to ten grand and it was unbelievable, only 5 came into Australia, and I'd back it against most current CD players. This is all 1990 dollars.

In contrast the Nakamichi CD players and receivers underperformed badly compared to other brands. So being expensive doesn't always guarantee performance.

But also, we sold a lot of AU$600 amps (and CD players). Stretching my memory I think they were the Marantz PM50, Rotel RA-940BX and the Pioneer A400, all about 50wpc into 8 ohms. They all sounded different. If three $600 amps can sound different then most gear will too.

And if porshe can afford those awesome looking amps good on him. We all have our hobbies.
 

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jealousy and envy is a *, this forum is a shadow of what it was. sad, it use to be a cool place to chat and discuss our systems, now its just a whine fest with a bunch of morons.
Before you trash the forum consider the viewpoint of a newbie.

I have learned so much here in the past year, excellent car audio threads, met some great people, and had some interesting off topic threads. I think it's great, but I wasn't here 10 years ago. And while I mostly use an installer, I've been inspired and am doing some stuff myself. The lack of a garage in an inner city townhouse makes DIY difficult too.

Critically, even if you aren't a DIY person, I've learned stuff that helps me deal with installers.

And car audio is a different beast, I arrived here with a lot of knowledge and experience in home hifi, head fi and portables/DAPs. And while there is significant overlap across platforms the learnings I've got about car audio have been great.
 

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Coming from someone who has over $20K wrapped up into watches, $12K in bicycles, not to mention computer equipment. I appreciate seeing how Porsche indulged in amplifiers. I do have one question though.

In the first post of this thread. Is that a BOSE Wave radio I see on top of Porsche's entertainment console? Take a close look


LOL!!!

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I like your sense of humor. The only references you have not made so far that are dear to my heart are South Park, Kick Ass, and Napoleon Dynamite :).

Oh, and a lot of Ryan Renolds stuff. Ever see the movie Waiting? I'm sure you know Deadpool...

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Let's not fool ourselves. The forum is what the members make of it. Focus deviated from "doing it home grown on the cheap" years ago.

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like it said, its sad what it has become over the years, everything is a pissing match on here instead of discussing our hobby
 
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And what exactly did you discuss? You showed pics of amps. Did say anything about them (other than the fact they were dual monos and zelos) or why you choose them or who was doing the install or the car it was going in. You gave flip answers to anyone asking questions. You made it the thread it is. And then you ***** at me when I said you "showed off really expensive amps" and of course you take that as me saying you were "showing off" (2 different things). So, maybe next time, actually discuss our hobby......you made this thread the pissing match it has become.

So, Lets try this again.......Those are amazing looking amps that happen to be very expensive (not a dig, just a fact) that I'm sure Nick (Apicella Auto Sound for those who don't know) will do a world class install with. What will the rest of the system consist of? Why did you choose these particular amps? Please tell us more!
 

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Really Dude? You think this is at all what this forum was built on? I didn't have a problem with anything you did until you tried to say the "old forum" was better for a thread like this. People got flamed for buying Alpine on the "old forum". Get a clue dude.

I have no problem with you spending your money the way you see fit. Or getting a pro to install it. But that is NOT what the forum was originally about. If you don't understand that, then you might need a forum history lesson.

And FWIW, those amp look amazing and Nick is a really smart choice for an installer.
Thanks for the kind words, but... What does it matter what the forum WAS about? It wasn't meant for professional installers and their customers and also wasn't meant for internet dealers to hang around just to get sales... don't be a hypocrite

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From a design and construction point of view, it's surprising to see Abyss use a very traditional / standard cut to length heat sink design. They mention the design pays homage to 90's amps, (which is clearly visible in their construction), and to dress it up they've been anodized, but I also see Abyss using stamped 18 gauge stainless steel covers for the sides of the case which seems rather odd. Even their own MFA series has thicker endplates than the Class A does. Speaking of class A, due to the additional heat inherent in class A design, why not use a full copper heat sink? Without being overly technical, copper has a BTU thermal conductivity of 223 while aluminum is only 118. Yes, copper is much more expensive, but at $9k there's plenty of margin in the pricing to use copper. Or, you might say asethically speaking, copper is prone to tarnishing (which is very true), but there are modern methods to address this issue as well. Using aluminum is likely more than sufficient, and I'm certain it's more than capable of dissipating the thermal load of the amps, but it would have been nice to see more premium materials. -Or, at least in a more creative way. The more I look at them, the more they remind me of Linear Power's amps.

Make no mistake, I'd love to have these, and I'm sure many here on the forum would as well, but as a scientist / engineer, there are aspects of these amps that are visually surprising considering the $9k price point. To be clear, I'm not trying to knock on these amps.... truely, I'm not, but I can't help but notice very similar heat sinks and stamped steel endplates as $200 amps.

Hopefully Abyss makes up for the above with their internals, and I'd love to see those internals (as I'm sure others would be as well).

I wish Chris and Nick all the best in this build, and I'm anxious to see the end result as I'm certain it will be stunning.
 

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also wasn't meant for internet dealers to hang around just to get sales
ooh burn.

As a member since 2007 I don't particularly care what the forum used to be about I only care what it is about now. And I'm just thankful it exists. been into car audio for 30 years and admit i've only gone to one comp, but other than that I've never met anyone that really cared or knew anything about it. This forum is a lifeline for me ha ha, I don't care whether its DIY'ers trying to bondo some crappy pillar together or Skizer making tiny acrylic grille highlights, or questions about a 2001 Clarion head unit.

It would be interesting to hear about the topology and components of these amps and what makes them special.
I don't even know how you guys find out about these kinds of things, never heard of them before.
 

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ooh burn.

As a member since 2007 I don't particularly care what the forum used to be about I only care what it is about now. And I'm just thankful it exists. been into car audio for 30 years and admit i've only gone to one comp, but other than that I've never met anyone that really cared or knew anything about it. This forum is a lifeline for me ha ha, I don't care whether its DIY'ers trying to bondo some crappy pillar together or Skizer making tiny acrylic grille highlights, or questions about a 2001 Clarion head unit.

It would be interesting to hear about the topology and components of these amps and what makes them special.
I don't even know how you guys find out about these kinds of things, never heard of them before.
Very well said Preston. Thank you.

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Thanks for the kind words, but... What does it matter what the forum WAS about? It wasn't meant for professional installers and their customers and also wasn't meant for internet dealers to hang around just to get sales... don't be a hypocrite

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IDK, Porsche is the one bringing up this place has gone to **** (a shadow of with it was and that it use to be a cool place to discuss his system - although didn't actually discuss anything, even when asked). Ask him why he brought it up, not me.

I keep hoping he will tell us more, as he claims he wants to discuss it, but he won't.
 

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IDK, Porsche is the one bringing up this place has gone to **** (a shadow of with it was and that it use to be a cool place to discuss his system - although didn't actually discuss anything, even when asked). Ask him why he brought it up, not me.

I keep hoping he will tell us more, as he claims he wants to discuss it, but he won't.
He ain't wrong. This place is a joke now

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IDK, Porsche is the one bringing up this place has gone to **** (a shadow of with it was and that it use to be a cool place to discuss his system - although didn't actually discuss anything, even when asked). Ask him why he brought it up, not me.

I keep hoping he will tell us more, as he claims he wants to discuss it, but he won't.
had no idea you the forum police, i made a topic to show the amps, have had several folks ask to see them, thats all niebuhr, sorry it doesn't meet your approval, not that i care
 

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