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FYI Ebay user name Andy4879 is up to his SCAMS again.


He left this guy negative and then pulled the ol "send you back a different amp than you sent me trick"

Alpine MRD-F752 5-channel car amplifier - eBay (item 200473376640 end time May-17-10 18:41:40 PDT)

http://forum.sounddomain.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1728894


June 17th of this month he did this one to Ebay user ryanjg11


Andy is so nice by asking buyers not to leave him negative feedbacks but look how easy it is for him to ruin someone else's feedback.

I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD GIVE ANDY A TASTE OF HIS OWN MEDICINE AND LEAVE HIM A BUNCH OF NEGATIVES.

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MISREPRESENTED PRODUCT BY NOT SHOWING PICTURES OF UNIT FOR SALE. LOOKED HORRIBLE Seller: Member idpioneerprodj12345 ( Feedback Score Of 479) May-30-10 10:55
Reply by pioneerprodj12345 (May-30-10 11:19):
andy4879 UNDER COVER WAS BUYING MY ITEMS TO SELL FOR 250.STAY AWAY FROM HIM

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MISREPRESENTED PRODUCT BY NOT SHOWING PICTURES OF UNIT FOR SALE. LOOKED HORRIBLE Seller: Member idpioneerprodj12345 ( Feedback Score Of 479) May-30-10 10:55
Reply by pioneerprodj12345 (May-30-10 11:18):
andy4879 UNDER COVER WAS BUYING MY ITEMS TO SELL FOR 250.STAY AWAY FROM HIM

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EMAIL ME FOR DEATILS ON THIS ONE. THERE IS NOT ENOUGH SPACE FOR THIS TRANSACTION Seller: Member idkefo68 ( Feedback Score Of 22) May-14-10 13:59
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THANK YOU Seller: Member idmister$37 ( Feedback Score Of 2691) May-14-10 13:59
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DID NOT SEND HARNESS WITH RADIO. SAID IT WAS NOT PART OF THE RADIO? CLUELESS Seller: Member iduwwscott ( Feedback Score Of 149) May-14-10 13:59
Reply by uwwscott (May-14-10 14:13):
Auction was for radio only. It was clearly stated. Tried to extort money from me
Follow-up by inowhournow (May-14-10 14:38):
AUCTION SAID WORKED PERFECTLY. CAME WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. ASKED FOR PLUG MONEY


CHARGED ME 20 SHIPPING AND IT WAS LESS THAN 12. NOT GOOD SELLING ETHICS Seller: Member id6gunquota ( Feedback Score Of 66) Apr-28-10 10:52
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thank you Seller: Member idcts702 ( Feedback Score Of 522) Apr-28-10 10:37
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14 DAYS AND NO COMMUNICATION,NO TRACKING,NO ANSWER TO EBAY CASE. BAD SELLER Seller: Member idkbattles252 ( Feedback Score Of 2 ) Apr-27-10 08:54
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EVERYTHING SENT DID NOT WORK CORRECLY BUT GAVE REFUND BUT LISTED IT AGAIN??????? Seller: Member idjustformygrandkids ( Feedback Score Of 14175) Mar-23-10 09:47
Reply by justformygrandkids (Mar-23-10 12:58):
Everything works perfect, I install car audio, this worked even after u returned






I can confirm that andy4879 is back to his old ways! I sold him an Alpine MRD-F752 5-channel amplifier in perfect condition. Packaged it well, and shipped it off to him. He told me it was broken upon receiving it (speaker terminals were bent, he claimed) but that there was no box damage--absolutely impossible given how I packaged it and how durable this amp was.

He then was able to con another $25 out of me to pay for it to be shipped back to me. At this time, I took him at face value because I'm a trustworthy guy. I was then contacted by an anonymous former-victim of his, warning me that he has a history of claiming damage, trying to get price concessions from the seller, and then opening claims on eBay/Paypal.

He did in fact ship me back an equivalent product, but I believe he pulled the ol' switcheroo trick... He swapped out my mint amp with his old broken one, and shipped me back the piece of crap.

Chances are you will see my MRD-F752 pop up on one of his auctions in the very near future. In the end, he will probably make $350 off this transaction, with zero invested.

Just warning you guys to avoid him at all costs. He has perfect feedback on eBay under andy4879 (with over 2,000 transactions), but he only uses this account as a "buyer" account and has multiple other accounts for performing his scams. As you might know, buyers no longer can receive negative feedback on eBay and he is exploiting this new loophole.

AVOID AT ALL COSTS
 

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What's his current buying account(s)? We DIYMA'ers could keep a running list since you know this forum will be the first Google hit ;)

Anyone know if he uses a name on Paypal other than Andy Weiser?
 

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I don't take returns on amps, at least if you say that you have a choice of doing it or not.

For a year I had two negatives, from sellers that would not sell to me. I complained non-performance and so they gave me a negative. Ebay changed policy but would not get rid of mine.

Also Tripath is long out of biz, it could be a chore to find the IC if that is what is broken. I have a dead Arc with one in it never have tried to figure out what its problem is.
 

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You can select "No Returns" in ebay, but Paypal will disagree with that :laugh:

With the way disputes are handled, there is no such thing anymore...
 

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You can select "No Returns" in ebay, but Paypal will disagree with that :laugh:

With the way disputes are handled, there is no such thing anymore...
You can still claim damage or non-working and paypal will rule in the buyers favor.

Andy or Drew weiser scams people who claim that their amp work fine (which i am sure they do) If you sel AS-IS you won't get crap for your car audio.

He is SCAMMING honest people.

This is how he gets down.

Ebay SCAMMER ALERT -- Do not sell your amp to Andy Weiser aka andy4879

Ebay user Golfclubsrus2008-2008 is Andy 'Drew" Weiser from Ebay. He has since changed his Ebay buying name to inowhournow to stay under the Ebay radar.

His selling name is Andy4879 and he has been doing this SCAM for years and years.

He creates a different buying user names every 2-3 months and buys amps then disputes 8 out of 10 of the amps with PayPal and the seller and claims they were either DOA, DAMAGED during shipment or need work. Regardless if they work perfect ,were boxed up professionally and delivered by a armored truck ..

After the coast is clear he lists the amp on his selling name "Andy4879" and sells it for 3x times as much as he paid for it.

Here is a example. He buys a amp for 200.00 -- then claims it needs repair and scams the seller for say 100.00 -125.00. Now he only has roughly 100.00 into a amp that in truth works perfect and NEVER needed any type of repair. Then he lists that same amp on his seller account which is Andy4879 for ridiculous price of 399.00 or best offer. Sells it for around 350.00 to and makes around a 250.00 profit when all is said and done.

Here is the "KICKER" !!! If you deny his PayPal claim and tell him to send your amp back he either destroys your amp and sends it back or send you back a COMPLETELY different amp...

Lets say you send him a U.S. Amps $500.00 amp. You will probably get back a broken Jensen amp that weighs around the same as your U.S. amps.

Andy Weiser is the most treacherous person anyone honest person can run across Ebay.

The funniest part is that he tries to play tough guy over emails and a bully but he is really a 5'3 285lbs midget.

This folks is 100% the truth. Go on google.com and put in Andy4879 or justonemoreamp scammer and see what comes up.


Also look out for JOMA AKA JUSTONEMOREAMP -- this is andy4879 's partner in crime and does the EXACT same thing.
 

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I get all that...what I mean is...you can say "As-is, no returns" then the buyer only has to show Paypal a tracking number back to you and the refund is released to them. What's in the box on the way back to you, PP could give two shits about...rocks, phone books, dirty clothes...even if it was supposed to be your amp. Once the money is transferred back to the buyer, the case is closed.

Whether they claim damage, non-working, etc, is irrelevant--you WILL get something returned to you, regardless of what your auction stipulated. You sell it "working, as-is, no returns" you might be seeing it again ;)

At least Google makes it easy to research ebay users...even the ones with thousands of positive feedbacks...

Heh, right as I was about to submit the post, got a tracking number on an amp I won (not from these scammers though :surprised: ...No Returns Accepted of course) so we shall see how this goes...
 

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It only takes a $150 plane ticket to solve a scammers ways permanently. Doing things the legal way takes years and thousands which may yield you nothing in the end. Showing up on someones door step and making them sh&t themselves right in front of you is much more satisfying. Maybe I just do things the old school way..... Google maps and street view has done wonders for my planning when I take a flight :D How it all turns out depends on what you really want out of taking the trip and how well you study the area on google. Most people are EXTREMELY NICE when you are "real" and standing in front of them looking like a pissed off psychopath that just flew 1200 miles.
 

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Ryan,
Call BOTH PayPal and Ebay and file a complaint and tell them what happened.

I can tell you that there is 3 other people in the last 2 months that he did the same exact scam to.

Tell BOTH ebay and paypal to look at the pattern of partial refunds that he gets and they will see that it is bizarre that he gets all these refunds!!!

Take 15 minutes out of your day to help others from getting scammed.

Trust me if you are nice to Ebay and Paypal and kindly ask them to see how many disputes and partial refunds he has received in the last couple of years they will do a full investigation on him.



This was his prior user name and has changed it to hide from his true identity

golfclubsrus2008-2008 and he did the same SCAM to them. Check out the link.

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/general-discussion/401024-aware-selling-your-amps-ebay-2.html
 

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The amp I ordered was not from one of these guys...some dude in Utah. 312/100% feedback.

It's some good info, now that we know his (current) buyer's account. Cancel them bids and decline some offers! :laugh:

Weiser won this one...now read the description the seller put back up after the amp was purportedly returned to him:

  • Item is being relisted! Buyer bench tested this amp and said that it has a short somewhere on the EQ panel. He stated it would cost 100 dollars to fix, considering this amp retailed for 1000 dollars back in the 90's i would say this is a small price to pay! Let me know if you have any more questions. Due to this the return policy has been lifted and the amp is beeing SOLD AS IS!
On May-27-10 at 05:37:00 PDT, seller added the following information:Just wanted to add this as a note: As I stated before this amp was listed and sold already. The buyer was some kind of "Audio Expert" and put it through a series of highly scrutinizing tests. The outcome of these tests is stated above. What I'm getting at is I used this thing in my car, for over a year, with no problems. Just because some "Expert" tore the thing apart and told me it was broken doesn't mean it wont work fine for you. It worked fine for me! And just as a disclaimer this is not a guarantee, just an opinion.
Original: $135 shipped Infinity Beta 300 All Digital amplifier, 1000 watt mono - eBay (item 160430909818 end time May-10-10 17:49:59 PDT)

Relist: $52 shipped Infinity Beta 300 All Digital amplifier, 1000 watt mono - eBay (item 160438336731 end time Jun-01-10 09:49:12 PDT)

I bet he bought it back for $50! Watch out for a Beta 300 amp soon...

I'm all for capitalism and scoring good deals, but this is just shitty.
 

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The amp I ordered was not from one of these guys...some dude in Utah. 312/100% feedback.

It's some good info, now that we know his (current) buyer's account. Cancel them bids and decline some offers! :laugh:

Weiser won this one...now read the description the seller put back up after the amp was purportedly returned to him:



Original: $135 shipped Infinity Beta 300 All Digital amplifier, 1000 watt mono - eBay (item 160430909818 end time May-10-10 17:49:59 PDT)

Relist: $52 shipped Infinity Beta 300 All Digital amplifier, 1000 watt mono - eBay (item 160438336731 end time Jun-01-10 09:49:12 PDT)

I bet he bought it back for $50! Watch out for a Beta 300 amp soon...

I'm all for capitalism and scoring good deals, but this is just shitty.

He does random purchases and if your user name states anything to do with a EbayStore (who don't know anything about car audio) or if your auction says this was my husbands amp or "I don't know anything about car audio or it worked last time I had it hooked up" then you are GOING TO GET SCAMMED BY HIM 100% EVERY TIME. (Ebay stores,Pawn shops that sell on Ebay, and female sellers
get a dispute every single time by this little bastard )!!!! They usually just give in because they don't know better.

He preys on people that seem clueless about car audio.

One of my favorite Andy Weiser scams was this lady who listed a Phoenix Gold amp on Ebay and her user name was cathy%.7 or something like that. Her Ebay auction stated that the amp for sale was her husbands and that she was selling it on her Ebay account .( but did not mention that her husband still lived with her and was sponsored by Phoenix Gold back in the day). Well, Of course Andy claimed DOA and she kindly told him to send it back. He then told her NO that he wanted to keep the amp but needed a 125.00 refund to have the amp fixed. She stuck to her guns and said no way just send me back the amp!!!

That asshole tore open that warranty tags and moved some parts around and sent it back to them.
They received the amp and tested it and it worked fine. (Andy was pissed that he couldn't get away with his scam) so he vandalized the amp.

Again,let me remind you that Andy4879 is a 5'3 285 pound Gay midget stripper and has no business
doing any kind of scams !
 

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ebay truncates bidder names now, fair enough. What I can't find an answer to, is whether each person "gets" a name or it randomly changes.

Like...when I'm logged in, Andy's buying account always gets the same letters assigned, and I can "follow" his bids likewise.

Can someone tell me what letters they see for the winning bid? eBayMotors Item Bid History

His buying account, inowhournow, always shows as w***w for me. Currently at 176 feedbacks.

Reason I'm wondering, not just because he seems so dishonest, is because I've been seeing another account with private feedback only bidding on amps, just like inowhournow/Andy. Only amps. It shows as o***r
(private) to me.

This isn't a vendetta, mostly out of boredom, curiosity, hatred of thieves/scammers, and interest of amps on ebay...and especially taking ebay back from the liars and cheaters. Looking to sell a couple soon, and I will not deal with this guy in any way, shape, or form. ebay's making it too easy to screw people...

Edit: The w***w ID has been confirmed by someone else as well...
 

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When I have logged out to check, my "anonymous" acronym has remained the same. I would think it would still be possible to track a bidder if the link to the real user name is made.
 

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These are his next victims: Please feel free to contact them as well and give them the heads up on what is in store for them !!!

320549993849 Jun-17-10 Jun-17-10 12:41:52 US $125.00 Diamond Audio TDX 15D4 15" 4000W Dual 4-Ohm Subwoofer Purchased on:
Jun-17-10 12:41:51
See All Buyers 2000auctionsjr
360270697525 Jun-09-10 Jun-19-10 05:45:33 US $99.00 ALPINE 3566 6 CHANNEL AMPLIFIER USED inowhournow (*) nothgiel01
180522964526 Jun-19-10 Jun-20-10 05:12:54 US $111.00 ARC AUDIO XEQ - ARC XEQ Digital Equalizer BRAND NEW inowhournow (*) sellerusa72
270596132299 Jun-19-10 Jun-20-10 05:23:15 US $139.00 Alumapro ALC 6.2 6.5" Two Way Component Speaker System Purchased on:
Jun-20-10 05:23:15
See All Buyers thebestsound909
160447971098 Jun-22-10 Jun-22-10 09:11:47 US $150.00 PPI PC 650 6 channel Purchased on:
Jun-22-10 09:11:47
See All Buyers drwattsaudiolab
280524975078 Jun-22-10 Jun-22-10 19:23:03 US $175.00 SOUNDSTREAM REFERENCE 644S CAR AUIDO AMP FREE SHIPPING! inowhournow (*) thump60
190408482791 Jun-22-10 Jun-23-10 06:30:34 US $45.00 MTX Thunder 2160 2-Channel Car Stereo Amplifier - USED Purchased on:
Jun-23-10 06:30:34
See All Buyers aceves1
260624677786 Jun-23-10 Jun-23-10 14:32:19 US $100.00 4 pyle amplifiers (please donot bid on this inowhournow (*) rcpoolstereo
180521788573 Jun-16-10 Jun-23-10 18:48:23 US $335.09 ARC AUDIO SIGNATTURE EDITION 2300SE AMPLIFIER inowhournow (*) sellerusa72
290446269552 Jun-17-10 Jun-24-10 18:10:04 US $71.00 ARC AUDIO MEQ-30 EQUALIZER 30 BAND inowhournow (*) 1965tr4a
 

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The amp I ordered was not from one of these guys...some dude in Utah. 312/100% feedback.
I unwrapped it just now to the sound of broken glass :( 4 Sovteks down the tubes (rimshot goes here). We'll see how the seller handles it. Thank God it's not this guy I have to deal with.
 
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