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Anyone know anyone at JL Audio (factory) that might be able to get me help that I need?
I own 4 of the 12W7's (purchased them preowned, the only way I could afford them)
Of the 4 I now have a pair that need rebuilding. I love these subs, they are absolutely the perfect sub for my needs (SQL) I wasn't sure at first, but now I'm convinced.. My initial apprehension was quickly put to rest with some fine tuning with a parametric (another story)
These subs (just the pair I have running for now) have solidified themselves in my heart as the best all around performers..
However, (and I think this a big deal) JL's role in topping this perfectly engineered marvel of a sub with that ****ty foam surround begs the question..
"Why?"
I think that JL put together a seemingly bullet proof sub, that of which will inevitably fail even when in the hands of the most capable user (perhaps prematurely and in my case with catastrophic results.. Did they do this in anticipation of getting paid from the costly repairs that will eventually come pouring in? I doubt it but one has to wonder..
Now I know that this is a very common problem with drivers of all color and creed. Foam surrounds that dryrot then fail.. And just like any sub, speaker, or any piece of electronic equipment, it will all eventually fail. But why would an engineering marvel like the 12W7 be made so susceptible to failure from something so seemingly avoidable. A $2.00 piece of foam? Would a rubber surround change the performance or TS of the sub so dramatically that they avoided using it for those reasons?
I think it sucks that they overbuild these subs, only to put ****ty foam surrounds on them, surrounds that are extremely prone to dry rot (especially in South Florida Sunshine) Once rotted, doesn't take much for the sub to basically annihilate itself. Premature, seemingly avoidable, costly failure of an already expensive piece of equipment.. The $2.00 foam surround, the Achilles heel of the venerable 12W7??
It's a business, just like any major business, they could give a rats ass about a small time piss ant like myself moaning about my preowned subs taking a crap on me.... Not when they have Celebs and Ballers paying top dollar for their gear at full retail, no questions asked.. Why would they give a rats ass about me?
I am not bad mouthing JL. They make killer subs, and if you've got a taste for and the resources to back it, they make killer everything.. They have a smart business strategy that has made them a huge success, was merely pointing that out (plays right into my already paranoid "conspiracy theorist" mentality)..
Anyway, enough ramble, I was hoping that since I am local (factory is close by) I could save a buttload of money on shipping fees by dropping off in person..
JL understandably won't accept drop offs of any equipment by "Joe J consumer" off the street.. If it were an amp, no biggie, just pay the $18 shipping and be done.. But we are talking over $200 in shipping fees alone and I live but 10 mins away..
Anyone with an inside connect that can get me hooked up would be like the Late great Jesus and his wine trick.. (peace be upon him) I would be your best friend for life.. If there is in fact a remote chance that someone in here knows someone within JL that can hook me up, please PM me! Would be best to keep it discreet I would imagine...
Please help!! Thanks in advance..
Ant, I'm sorry if this is posted in the wrong place.. Anyone from JL happens to read this, your subs rock!! Please help me get mine fixed!!
Eggz.
I own 4 of the 12W7's (purchased them preowned, the only way I could afford them)
Of the 4 I now have a pair that need rebuilding. I love these subs, they are absolutely the perfect sub for my needs (SQL) I wasn't sure at first, but now I'm convinced.. My initial apprehension was quickly put to rest with some fine tuning with a parametric (another story)
These subs (just the pair I have running for now) have solidified themselves in my heart as the best all around performers..
However, (and I think this a big deal) JL's role in topping this perfectly engineered marvel of a sub with that ****ty foam surround begs the question..
"Why?"
I think that JL put together a seemingly bullet proof sub, that of which will inevitably fail even when in the hands of the most capable user (perhaps prematurely and in my case with catastrophic results.. Did they do this in anticipation of getting paid from the costly repairs that will eventually come pouring in? I doubt it but one has to wonder..
Now I know that this is a very common problem with drivers of all color and creed. Foam surrounds that dryrot then fail.. And just like any sub, speaker, or any piece of electronic equipment, it will all eventually fail. But why would an engineering marvel like the 12W7 be made so susceptible to failure from something so seemingly avoidable. A $2.00 piece of foam? Would a rubber surround change the performance or TS of the sub so dramatically that they avoided using it for those reasons?
I think it sucks that they overbuild these subs, only to put ****ty foam surrounds on them, surrounds that are extremely prone to dry rot (especially in South Florida Sunshine) Once rotted, doesn't take much for the sub to basically annihilate itself. Premature, seemingly avoidable, costly failure of an already expensive piece of equipment.. The $2.00 foam surround, the Achilles heel of the venerable 12W7??
It's a business, just like any major business, they could give a rats ass about a small time piss ant like myself moaning about my preowned subs taking a crap on me.... Not when they have Celebs and Ballers paying top dollar for their gear at full retail, no questions asked.. Why would they give a rats ass about me?
I am not bad mouthing JL. They make killer subs, and if you've got a taste for and the resources to back it, they make killer everything.. They have a smart business strategy that has made them a huge success, was merely pointing that out (plays right into my already paranoid "conspiracy theorist" mentality)..
Anyway, enough ramble, I was hoping that since I am local (factory is close by) I could save a buttload of money on shipping fees by dropping off in person..
JL understandably won't accept drop offs of any equipment by "Joe J consumer" off the street.. If it were an amp, no biggie, just pay the $18 shipping and be done.. But we are talking over $200 in shipping fees alone and I live but 10 mins away..
Anyone with an inside connect that can get me hooked up would be like the Late great Jesus and his wine trick.. (peace be upon him) I would be your best friend for life.. If there is in fact a remote chance that someone in here knows someone within JL that can hook me up, please PM me! Would be best to keep it discreet I would imagine...
Please help!! Thanks in advance..
Ant, I'm sorry if this is posted in the wrong place.. Anyone from JL happens to read this, your subs rock!! Please help me get mine fixed!!
Eggz.