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Meh..... I really like the idea of being able to make changes at anytime. Really good deal tho....and i was really considering it. I've had several times when I had a dsp in the cart and almost bought it.....but I'm having a hard time making up my mind. If yours worked with the iphone, I'd be on it.
 

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I just noticed the cerwin vega has a couple of new dsps and so does diamond audio. Looks like they are the same units just dressed different and the diamond audio is a little more expensive. These actually fit what I'm looking for in a dsp, just wondering if they are worth a poo for a budget unit in a budget system. (it looks like only the 6 channel is currently available but the 8 channel will be soon)


I believe the person directly responsible for the creation of those 2 devices is Larry Frederick he was the creator of the Phoenix Gold MP and MPS amps he worked for both Cerwin Vega and Diamond
 

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what's the DSP LP you mention here?

The DSP LP was cool and all, for the most part it was simple and did what i wanted, made noise unless i had a filter and drained my battery if I didn't drive the car for a week. If I disconnected power to the DSP LP then i lost all my settings so I had to leave it powered on.....yea...umm no.
 

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Just wait. Save the money. Get a helix. Get the director. Be done.
You’re right as always. But I can’t seem to come to terms with spending that much 😳. I’ve been mulling over this for months. Same thing with the mids. I finally ordered some yesterday. As much as I like car audio, it’s not my main hobby $$ focus. I’m into guns, knives and going fast. One of the pistols I just bought, then put a red don’t on it and a trigger….I could have bought a helix. And I haven’t even shot it yet. Probably because ammo is $40-$55 a box. I’ve bought over $300 in ammo for it so far. Yikes.
 

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You’re right as always. But I can’t seem to come to terms with spending that much 😳. I’ve been mulling over this for months. Same thing with the mids. I finally ordered some yesterday. As much as I like car audio, it’s not my main hobby $$ focus. I’m into guns, knives and going fast. One of the pistols I just bought, then put a red don’t on it and a trigger….I could have bought a helix. And I haven’t even shot it yet. Probably because ammo is $40-$55 a box. I’ve bought over $300 in ammo for it so far. Yikes.
Hmmm....I agree with all that. But.....**** i would by ten more boxes of 9mm if I had to choose.
But buying the cerwin is like buying a Glock 1911.
It'll shoot. But...it's gonna jam. Prolly take a chunk outta the worste spot to take a chunk out of on your hand. Just wait... Get a ppq m2 and throw some shots.
 

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Hmmm....I agree with all that. But.....**** i would by ten more boxes of 9mm if I had to choose.
But buying the cerwin is like buying a Glock 1911.
It'll shoot. But...it's gonna jam. Prolly take a chunk outta the worste spot to take a chunk out of on your hand. Just wait... Get a ppq m2 and throw some shots.
I’m embarrassed. I was about to ask you what the heck is a Glock 1911. Then to keep myself from looking like a fool, I looked it up. I did not know Glock made that! And I call myself a “gun guy”. Lol. And I own 4 glocks. Wow, I feel like a dummy.
But yea, maybe the Vega is a hunk of junk. Now I did think that about the 8” Vegas I put in the back deck and I’m still impressed by them. Along with probably at least another dozen people I printed adapters for. I’m really considering just ordering one and sending back if I don’t like it. But like previously said, I’ll have to find a seller who accepts returns. Even tho I don’t like doing that, I like throwing $350 in the trash a lot less, ha. I have some hobby money coming my way probably after the weekend and I’ll hopefully have made up my mind by then and then risk it for sake of experimenting. Maybe it’ll turn out to be a decent budget choice for us cheap asses like me.
 

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I’m embarrassed. I was about to ask you what the heck is a Glock 1911. Then to keep myself from looking like a fool, I looked it up. I did not know Glock made that! And I call myself a “gun guy”. Lol. And I own 4 glocks. Wow, I feel like a dummy.
But yea, maybe the Vega is a hunk of junk. Now I did think that about the 8” Vegas I put in the back deck and I’m still impressed by them. Along with probably at least another dozen people I printed adapters for. I’m really considering just ordering one and sending back if I don’t like it. But like previously said, I’ll have to find a seller who accepts returns. Even tho I don’t like doing that, I like throwing $350 in the trash a lot less, ha. I have some hobby money coming my way probably after the weekend and I’ll hopefully have made up my mind by then and then risk it for sake of experimenting. Maybe it’ll turn out to be a decent budget choice for us cheap asses like me.
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I thought these were buggy, software issues, and pains to use. I just remember a lot of people that ran them always complained
Add me to that list :ROFLMAO:

Thats exactly what I don't want. I want something simple. Basically i just want to be able to set my high and low frequency for each speaker and be done with it. I'll continue to use my head units time alignment. I don't desire all kinds of settings that I don't understand. I'm not that into this hobby and I'm not that picky. The DSP LP was cool and all, for the most part it was simple and did what i wanted, made noise unless i had a filter and drained my battery if I didn't drive the car for a week. If I disconnected power to the DSP LP then i lost all my settings so I had to leave it powered on.....yea...umm no.
I will say, setting your IO, time alignment, crossovers, level matching, is all very easy and quick. That part the DSR1 does quite well and it's intuitive. Adjusting the PEQ just sucks big time. I am not doing a good job if I want to sell this thing am I.
 

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Just wait. Save the money. Get a helix. Get the director. Be done.
OP basically wants an active crossover and that's it. Helix seems wasted on someone who doesn't actually want to tune their speakers.
 
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OP basically wants an active crossover and that's it. Helix seems wasted on someone who doesn't actually want to tune their speakers.
Exactly, something simple that i can use as an active crossover with bluetooth controls..... I'm not real worried with anything else. My head unit has time alignment and it works "good enough" for me. I'm not a super picky true audiophile. At least i don't consider myself to be.
 

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Add me to that list :ROFLMAO:



I will say, setting your IO, time alignment, crossovers, level matching, is all very easy and quick. That part the DSR1 does quite well and it's intuitive. Adjusting the PEQ just sucks big time. I am not doing a good job if I want to sell this thing am I.
I'm trying to make sense of this statement.....
 

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what is peq?
Short for Parametric Equalizer.

 
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I'm trying to make sense of this statement.....
I'd like to upgrade from the DSR1 to another OEM integration unit (Mastero AR or something) and then to a Helix or Mosconi DSP. So, would eventually like to sell this thing and complaining about it probably won't help me sell it. If I can't sell it, I'll just zero out the settings and use it to feed a better DSP.

what is peq?
Parametric Equalizer (vs a graphic).
 

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Exactly, something simple that i can use as an active crossover with bluetooth controls..... I'm not real worried with anything else. My head unit has time alignment and it works "good enough" for me. I'm not a super picky true audiophile. At least i don't consider myself to be.
The thing is though, once you do tune the speakers, you'll never want to go back to an untuned setup.

Even a very very quick tune to remove spikes and getting the speaker more closely matched side to side will be a significant improvement.
 
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I'd like to upgrade from the DSR1 to another OEM integration unit (Mastero AR or something) and then to a Helix or Mosconi DSP. So, would eventually like to sell this thing and complaining about it probably won't help me sell it. If I can't sell it, I'll just zero out the settings and use it to feed a better DSP.


Parametric Equalizer (vs a graphic).
Well hit me up if you want to sell it.
 

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The thing is though, once you do tune the speakers, you'll never want to go back to an untuned setup.

Even a very very quick tune to remove spikes and getting the speaker more closely matched side to side will be a significant improvement.
And i agree..... i ran some pink noise and using a calibrated mic, i adjusted my eq to remove spikes and dips as much as I could and the improvement was pretty dramatic....and thats not even close to the "correct" way to do it. I'm not quite up to speed on that, I was reading a writeup on it someone posted here but my computer crashed and I lost the page. I'll go find it when I'm ready. I'm still slowly collecting parts to finish what i started. Car was down for a few months so i didn't really care much to mess with stereo when its not running....but I got it back going so i'm interested again. The car is a turbocharged, built motor GTO that the prime objective "was" to go fast. Its fast enough at this point (for the street, it'll walk sideways on me at an 80mph roll on drag radials) Now I'm working on making it quieter, more comfortable and more enjoyable to drive. I probably should be doing all this to my daily driver, but the stereo actually sounds pretty good from the factory except it could use a little more bass.
 
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