MSRP prices are always a joke in car audio if you didnt know my friend. ( 2x brax ml8 ~1500 USD) And budget is not in the question. But if you have a high end system please do share your thoughts on your explaination! Cheers
Best 8 inch midbass suggestions!
Hi all, I have a few choices regarding midbass that I was planning to run in my next build, need thoughts on what would provide the best regardless of fabrication etc. My 3 choices are. Brax ml8, Zr-Dream 1, or skanning Fu6. What im planning to run is the skanning, have aluminum pods also so would be stiff and heavy duty. Will be sending plentiful power as a hv venti will be used. Heres a couple pics of the skanning. Will be going in a lexus ls430. Cheers and thanks all for input in advance!
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Yeah, they will be going in doors. Need something that will put out a surprising amount of thump. Id like focusing on the midbass (50hz-100hz) more then the lower sub hz(<50) for my system. Its what I prefer after having multiple setups, thats why focusing on what would give the best response regardless of price. Jus dont wanna go over 8-9' or use a subwoofer in doors.Are you planning on putting them in your doors? Model the drives in WinISD. Pick up a pair of TM8's like Jroo said as well. Only $400 and will be a worthy contender. I'm doing the same thing but plan to do a lot of testing before I decide what I'm going to run. Have some Legatia LS8SE, TM8 (on the way in March), Brax, AF GB60 and the SI TM65 MKIV. Going to take me forever to test since I will have custom DSP tunes for each set of drivers or systems of drivers.
I do already have the skannings as mentioned, but seeings if theres anymore suggestions comparable to those.
First time system will be going in this vehicle, so not exactly sure about the cancellation issues. And thank you so much for the informative response. Seems like 60hz+ would be the sweet spot for these midbasses, and for sure the doors will be treated tremendously. I just feel a bit weary about running a sub in the footwell (seems to me may cause SQ issues), but have never tried/or listened to a vehicle equppied with it.Do you already have a system in this vehicle that is using other midbass or midwoofer drivers in your lower front door locations? If so, have you done any measurements to confirm where your cancellation nulls are ocurring?
IMO, I would use the Skannings since you already have them (fantastic drivers) AND since you want midbass drivers that will be installed in the doors, even though their properties are better suited to use in a good 2-way front stage.
Why? Unless your vehicle is very unique, you can't get around the common midbass cancellation nulls that result from using the OEM lower front door locations for midbass. So installing larger, more powerful midbass drivers will have the same cancellation issues and will just inject more resonances and vibration into the doors with not a lot more output at your listening position and/or in the passband where you need it. The "better" midbass drivers will just be flapping in & out much harder with no perceptible increase in SPL where you really need it.
Use the Skannings in the front doors, but from ~65Hz+ and up (HP about one octave above Fs if you aren't going to build some type of appropriate enclosures in the doors), then use a ~10" subwoofer in the front passenger side footwell that fires towards the firewall and is tucked in close to the passenger corner in order to help fill in the null(s).
That's just what I would do IF my midbass drivers have to be located in the lower front door locations. And/or as someone else mentioned, use your existing rear subwoofer to fill in the null if possible. You have to experiment a bit with this because depending on multiple factors it's not always guaranteed to provide an improvement. But in many instances it works quite well. Like with any choice we make, there might be other tradeoffs. You just have to determine which tradeoff is more acceptable and bothers you the least and offers the best overall result.
" The "better" midbass drivers will just be flapping in & out much harder with no perceptible increase in SPL where you really need it. "
I did experience this exact issue in my previous vehicle where I used the Zr labs no°1 6.5. I would notice the midbass flapping in and out hard but with not much output. I then used my sub 1200 esotar to fill in much of what was lacking, which helped quite a bit but still not what I desired.
Skanning les go!
Msrp on the zr labs is around 4500 Euros shipped, they are more of a subwoofer but are 9inch and can be used as a midbass.. 🤔I would add to the list Purifi 8"
do you know MRSP of ZR Lab 8 drivers?
Brax 8 - midbass and also consider Brax 8" SW which will give a bit more low end (Ask AudioGal for those since she run both models)
How and where are you planning to install those drivers?
Consdering in doors.. will fabricate and whatever needs to be done to get it fit.
That must of been nice to hold those beauties! I believe they are the best looking drivers ever made... how was the size in comparasion to an 8 inch midbass?Well, Im more than familiar with all ZR Speaker Lab drivers, was holding those 8" when they were first samples out of production....
This is really intresting.. will give it a deep thought. Not exactly sure which car i'll be going with since i decided not to go with the lexus yet due to finding out it was a normal package, and the double glazed/laminated windows only comes in the ultra package, and that is one of the main things I was looking forward to in the car due to immense reduction in road noise/viabrations compared to a non-laminated window car.Spending that much on doors will be an exercise in futility… you’re left hand drive and have lots of room, I’d go kick panels every second of the week
You’ve already said about 6.5” drivers flapping around but making no sound at certain freqs, that is due to the location, pure and simple… an eight will make more output low down and the exact same amount of energy in the reflection, so they will also do the same flapping about motions and give the same lack lustre midbass with worse rattles to boot…
you may have noticed I do not like doors as a midbass location, and don’t get me started about position of the centre in the stage with doors… very different to mids and tweeters normally so you then have to fudge the eq/labels to get a centre back in the centre 😔
If yall have any good suggestions for a car that would compensate a great build let me know. Im looking for a 4 door luxury sedan, or a 2 door luxury coupe. 2 cars in mind were the 2000 lexus LS430 or 2019 benz S550 coupe(could go with s63 but no point in extra noise need a smooth quiet ride). Price for vehicle is not too much of an issue have a budget of 100k.(lexus 20k/s550 90k)
Cheers all and thank you so much for the help, suggestions and support!
Which year/model benz are we talking about?
Ah nice
Im looking more towards the 2door coupe version, does it have same ski through format as the 4 door?W222 S class....
Yall are some awesome folks.. thank you so much for all the suggestions and discussions... just wanted to let you guys know as a thank you gesture, once my items are sold by end of next week( definite due to auction ), i will be doing a RANDOM SURPRISE RAFFLE (worth min 1000$ USD, still deciding which item) with all you folks who chimed in and have a great attitude and show love support and care for others instead of bashing and showing attitude/being envious/etc as we know that negativity is not welcomed. Just wanted to say it doesnt matter how much money one has, showing off and shuting down anyone who exceeds your expectations is not a good response. People can do w.e they choose to with thier money, save it, invest it, enjoy it. At the end of the day were all gona be dead and its gona be sooner then later.. so enjoy your time, share, care, and spread the love. Time flies as we all know.. specially car audio times. Anyways, Cheers and have a great week all!
P.S. sorry for the bit of venting!
P.S. sorry for the bit of venting!
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RAFFLE WILL BE EXECUTED SAT FEB 11
WINNER WILL BE ANNOUNCED SUNDAY FEB 12
WINNER WILL HAVE 24 HRS TO CLAIM PRIZE AND DM ME WITH SHIPPING INFO OR ELSE RAFFLE WILL BE REDRAWN AND ANOTHER WINNER WILL BE CHOSEN
ITEM WILL BE SHIPPED MONDAY FEB 13 WITH FASTEST SHIPPING SERVICE AIR/NEXT DAY WORLDWIDE.
ITEM WILL NOT BE REVEALED UNTIL WINNER HAS RECIEVED.
YOU CAN CHOOSE WHAT TO DO WITH YOUR PRIZE, WILL NOT BE JUDGED BY ANY MEANS IF YOU RESELL ON HERE, USE IT FOR YOUR OWN USE, OR TOSS IT IN THE TRASH. (although I wouldnt 🤣)
ALL WILL BE COVERED, SHIPPING, INSURANCE, AND IF DUTIES/TAXES, WILL PAY COST/REIMBURSE UPON PROOF OF RECIEPT.
ALSO, FOR YOU GUYS TO CHOOSE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE MULTIPLE WINNERS, CAN MAKE THE VALUE 500$ MINIMUM USD AND 2 WINNERS INSTEAD OF ONE SO MORE CHANCES.
WILL TRY TO MATCH VALUE IF 2 WINNERS AS BEST, BUT ITEM WITH MORE VALUE WILL GO TO FIRST PICK. BOTH ITEMS STILL WILL BE MINIMUM 500$(most likely much more)
DECIDE AND GIVE INPUT, WILL ANNOUNCE IF 1 OR 2 WINNERS AFTER YOU GUYS HAVE MADE DECISION
Cheers and good luck all!
I would like to be fair and give everyone who contributed in a positive manner in the community overall, will not be nitpicking. Cheers and GL to all the active and cheerful members!I like this idea. There should be some sort of award or thank you to those that contribute in a positive manner. Dumdum LBaudio and ItsonlyaHonda are some of the good guys. Always helpful and positive. There are many more to thank but those 3 are in the last couple of posts.
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