Cheap 4 ga wireing

3lusive · 2022-06-23

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MXRVIPD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 litterly made a account to share this deal, yw :p

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3lusive

Discussion Starter · 11 mo ago

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ItsonlyaHONDA

· #2 · 11 mo ago

That's CCA I wouldn't use it if it was given to me. I suggest you don't either this ⬇ is a better deal. It's a little more expensive but it's worth the piece of mind of OFC. I don't mean to be rude or mean so don't take it the wrong way. Welcome to DIYMA

KnuKonceptz Kolossus Flex Kable OFC 4 Gauge Power Wire Copper Cable Red (20 ft) KnuKonceptz Kolossus Flex Kable OFC 4 Gauge Power Wire Copper Cable Red (20 ft) : Electronics

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Sintek

· #3 · 11 mo ago

Another option: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LIB4LXM/

Cheaper and made in US, whereas knuconceptz wire is made in China, if that matters to you.

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SkizeR

· #4 · 11 mo ago

The only thing I'd use CCA for would be to hang myself, and even then I wouldn't trust it to do the job right lol

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3lusive

Discussion Starter · #5 · 11 mo ago

cool thanks for the heads up

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3lusive

Discussion Starter · #6 · 11 mo ago

didnt even think they would make wire with Aluminum in it.

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ItsonlyaHONDA

· #7 · 11 mo ago

Sintek said:
Another option: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LIB4LXM/

Cheaper and made in US, whereas knuconceptz wire is made in China, if that matters to you.

That's also good 👍. Made in US is a plus. But knukonceptz sounds better than TEMCo industrial. And knuconceptz comes in Purdy neon colors if you into that type of thing. Lol

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3lusive

Discussion Starter · #8 · 11 mo ago

I ended up going this route it was nice to get how many feet I actually need also.

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Thank you all for the help, its been 10+ years since I've built a system, pretty sure all the wire back then was mostly made of all copper, never saw tin in anything.
Thanks again for the insight, I am sure this will also help someone else.

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ItsonlyaHONDA

· #9 · 11 mo ago (Edited)

3lusive said:
I ended up going this route it was nice to get how many feet I actually need also.

4 Gauge AWG OFC BLUE Power Ground Wire Sky High Car Audio Sold By The Foot ft | eBay

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Thank you all for the help, its been 10+ years since I've built a system, pretty sure all the wire back then was mostly made of all copper, never saw tin in anything.
Thanks again for the insight, I am sure this will also help someone else.

That's good that you went with the OFC. You'd be surprised with the amount of post I've read especially in the SPL sites where ppl say they use CCA. I've read about guys running 3 runs of 0 gauge CCA running big power for subs talking bout "I'll upgrade to OFC one day". CCA is not a cheap alternative, CCA is useless. I was at my installer shop not long ago and he showed me a run of CCA that he had taken out of a car that "upgraded" from CCA. I had never seen CCA till then and that run was lighter that a roll of OFC 16 gauge I have.

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Dwarteacher

· #10 · 11 mo ago

Sintek said:
Another option: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LIB4LXM/

Cheaper and made in US, whereas knuconceptz wire is made in China, if that matters to you.

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bbfoto

· #11 · 11 mo ago (Edited)

3lusive said:
I ended up going this route it was nice to get how many feet I actually need also.

4 Gauge AWG OFC BLUE Power Ground Wire Sky High Car Audio Sold By The Foot ft | eBay

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Thank you all for the help, its been 10+ years since I've built a system, pretty sure all the wire back then was mostly made of all copper, never saw tin in anything.
Thanks again for the insight, I am sure this will also help someone else.

The Sky High OFC wire is decent stuff and a good value. I think it rated fairly well in HifiVega's test of lots of other power wire he has tested as well. But I still would have chosen the KnuConceptz Kolossus Flex Kable.

Why?

Because it is "Tinned OFC". In other words it is tin-plated OFC. The thin tin plating is actually an advantage in car and marine audio systems and helps to minimize oxidation, corrosion, and degradation over time.

Kicker's silver-tinned OFC Hyper-Flex power wire is my favorite out of everything I've tried so far. It's good quality, and is extremely flexible for tight bends and curves when installing it. But it ain't cheap.

Here's just a short and simple demonstration of why you wouldn't really save money by using cheap CCA power wire. But there are several other significant reasons to not use it as well.

Dean & Fernando at Five Star Car Audio also used this same Kicker test setup in one of their videos, and it showed similar results.

However, they also measured the TEMPERATURE of both the CCA and OFC wire after powering the amplifier for 5 minutes.

The temperature of the 15-17 feet of OFC wire was 119° F. That's definitely warmer than room temperature, but not bad at all. It would be completely safe.

The 15-17 feet of CCA wire, however, heated up to 226°F !!! The boiling point of water is 212°F! So you could boil water for tea or coffee or cook a can of beans in the can with the CCA wire wrapped around it, LOL.

This test also shows that the CCA wire is not a large enough gauge for the amount of current draw required by this amplifier. So in this case, you'd have to purchase more expensive 4 AWG CCA wire in order to match the performance of the 8 AWG OFC wire.

Again, this is another reason that you're not going to save money buying and using CCA power wire.

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bbfoto

· #12 · 11 mo ago (Edited)

ItsonlyaHONDA said:
That's good that you went with the OFC. You'd be surprised with the amount of post I've read especially in the SPL sites where ppl say they use CCA. I've read about guys running 3 runs of 0 gauge CCA running big power for subs talking bout "I'll upgrade to OFC one day". CCA is not a cheap alternative, CCA is useless. I was at my installer shop not long ago and he showed me a run of CCA that he had taken out of a car that "upgraded" from CCA. I had never seen CCA till then and that run was lighter that a roll of OFC 16 gauge I have.

Not only that, but I've seen some CCA wire that actually broke away and separated from the battery and amplifier terminals because it literally turned into powdered dust after just 3 years in the car.

In addition, aluminum will fracture and break much sooner than copper when bending it (especially bending it in tight radiuses and repeated bending) and under vibrational loads such as the engine compartment of a vehicle.

That is why there is such a thing as "Aircraft Aluminum". It is a special aluminum alloy blend that resists this fracturing. This is a problem in aircraft because the fuselage and wing structures are designed to flex to reduce overall stresses at attachment points and throughout the airframe. It's also more expensive than standard aluminum.

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