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This was sent to me. I feel it is all our free will to decide our existence's circumstance so when this was sent to me, I felt it was important for all of us to make a choice on our own.

For those afflicted with ADHD / ADD, or who just don't want to read that much info, this is a question asking if ET's should show up or not. It is a request apparently by those ET's, they are asking if they should become known to us. Voting just because you don't want to read is... not fair to the question being asked.

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Whoever transmitted this translated message to you is irrelevant, and should remain anonymous in your mind. It is what you will do with this message which matters !​
Each one of you wishes to exercise her/his free will and experience happiness.​
These are attributes that were shown to us and to which we now have access. Your free will depends upon the knowledge you have of your own power. Your happiness depends upon the love that you give and receive.​
Like all conscious races at this stage of progress, you may feel isolated on your planet. This impression makes you sure of your destiny. Yet, you are at the brink of big upheavals that only a minority is aware of.​
It is not our responsibility to modify your future without you choosing it. Consider this message as a worldwide referendum! And your answer as a ballot!​

Who are we?
Neither your scientists nor your religious representatives speak unanimously about the unexplained celestial events that mankind has witnessed for thousands of years. To know the truth, one must face it without the filter of one's beliefs, however respectable they may be.​
A growing number of anonymous researchers of yours are exploring new knowledge paths and are getting very close to reality. Today, your civilization is flooded with an ocean of information of which only a tiny part, the less upsetting one, is notably diffused.​
What in your history seemed ridiculous or improbable has often become possible, then realized, in particular in the last fifty years. Be aware that the future will be even more surprising. You will discover the worst as well as the best.​
Like billions others in this galaxy, we are conscious creatures that some name "extra-terrestrials", even though reality is subtler.​
There is no fundamental difference between you and us, save for the experience of certain stages of evolution. Like in any other organized structure, hierarchy exists in our internal relationships. Ours is based upon the wisdom of several races. It is with the approval of this hierarchy that we turn to you.​
Like most of you, we are in the quest of the Supreme Being. Therefore we are not gods or lesser gods but virtually your equals in the Cosmic Brotherhood.​
Physically, we are somewhat different from you but for most of us humanoid-shaped.​
Our existence is a reality but the majority of you does not perceive it yet. We are not mere observations, we are consciences just like you. You fail to apprehend us because we remain invisible to your senses and measure instruments most of the time.​
We wish to fill this void at this moment in your history. We made this collective decision but this is not enough. We need yours. Through this message, you become the decision-makers ! You personally.​
We have no human representative on Earth who could guide your decision.​

Why aren't we visible?
At certain stages of evolution, cosmic "humanities” discover new forms of science beyond the apparent control of matter. Structured de-materialization and materialization are part of them. This is what your humanity has reached in a few laboratories, in close collaboration with other "extra-terrestrial" creatures at the cost of hazardous compromises that remain purposely hidden from you by some of your representatives.​
Apart from the aerial or spatial objects or phenomena known about by your scientific community, that you call 'UFOs, there are essentially multidimensional manufactured spaceships that apply these capacities.​
Many human beings have been in visual, auditory, tactile or psychic contact with such ships, some of which are under occult powers that "govern" you. The scarcity of your observations is due to the outstanding advantages provided by the dematerialized state of these ships.​
By not witnessing them by yourself, you cannot believe in their existence. We fully understand this.​
The majority of these observations are made on an individual basis so as to touch the soul and not to modify any organized system. This is deliberate from the races that surround you but for very different reasons and results.​
For negative multidimensional beings that play a part in the exercise of power in the shadow of human oligarchy, discretion is motivated by their will to keep their existence and seizure unknown.​
For us, discretion is motivated by the respect of the human free will that people can exercise to manage their own affairs so that they can reach technical and spiritual maturity on their own. Humankind's entrance into the family of galactic civilizations is greatly expected.​
We can appear in broad daylight and help you attain this union. We haven't done it so far, as too few of you have genuinely desired it, because of ignorance, indifference or fear, and because the emergency of the situation did not justify it. Many of those who study our appearances count the lights in the night without lighting the way. Often they think in terms of objects when it is all about conscious beings.​

Who are you?
You are the offspring of many traditions that throughout time have been mutually enriched by each others' contributions. The same applies to the races at the surface of the Earth. Your goal is to unite in the respect of these roots to accomplish a common project. The appearance of your cultures seems to keep you separated because you substitute it to your deeper being. Shape is now more important than the essence of your subtle nature. For the powers in place, this prevalence of the shape constitutes the ramparts against any form of jeopardy.​
You are being called on to overcome shape while still respecting it for its richness and beauty. Understanding the conscience of shape makes us love men in their diversity. Peace does not mean not making war, it consists in becoming what you are in reality: a same Fraternity.​
To understand this, the number of solutions within your reach are decreasing. One of them consists in contact with another race that would reflect the image of what you are in reality.​

What is your situation?
Except for rare occasions, our interventions always had very little incidence on your capacity to make collective and individual decisions about your own future. This is motivated by our knowledge of your deep psychological mechanisms.​
We reached the conclusion that freedom is built every day as a being becomes aware of himself and of his environment, getting progressively rid of constraints and inertias, whatever they may be. Despite the numerous, brave and willing human consciences, those inertias are artificially maintained for the profit of a growing centralizing power.​
Until recently, mankind lived a satisfying control of its decisions. But it is losing more and more the control of its own fate because of the growing use of advanced technologies, which lethal consequences on the earthly and human ecosystems become irreversible. You are slowly but surely losing your extraordinary capacity to make life desirable. Your resilience will artificially decrease, independently of your own will. Such technologies exist that affect your body as well as your mind. Such plans are on their way.​
This can change as long as you keep this creative power in you, even if it cohabits with the dark intentions of your potential lords. This is the reason why we remain invisible. This individual power is doomed to vanish should a collective reaction of great magnitude not happen. The period to come is that of rupture, whichever it may be.​
But should you wait for the last moment to find solutions ? Should you anticipate or undergo pain ?​
Your history has never ceased to be marked by encounters between peoples who had to discover one another in conditions that were often conflictual. Conquests almost always happened to the detriment of others. Earth has now become a village where everyone knows everyone else but still conflicts persist and threats of all kinds get worse in duration and intensity.​
Although a Human being as an individual, yet having many potential capacities, cannot exercise them with dignity. This is the case for the biggest majority of you for reasons that are essentially geopolitical.​
There are several billion of you. The education of your children and your living conditions, as well as the conditions of numerous animals and much plant life are nevertheless under the thumb of a small number of your political, financial, military and religious representatives.​
Your thoughts and beliefs are modeled after partisan interests to turn you into slaves while at the same time giving you the feeling that you are in total control of your destiny, which in essence is the reality.​
But there is a long way between a wish and a fact when the true rules of the game at hand are unknown. This time, you are not the conqueror. Biasing information is a military strategy for human beings. Inducting thoughts, emotions or organisms that do not belong to you via ad hoc technologies is an even older a strategy.​
Wonderful opportunities of progress stand close to big subdual and destruction threats. These dangers and opportunities exist now. However, you can only perceive what is being shown to you. The end of natural resources is programmed whereas no long-term collective project has been launched.​
Ecosystem exhaustion mechanisms have exceeded irreversible limits. The scarcity of resources and their unfair distribution - resources which entry price will rise day after day - will bring about fratricide fights at a large scale, but also at the very heart of your cities and countrysides.​
Hatred grows bigger but so does love. That is what keeps you confident in your ability to find solutions. But the critical mass is insufficient and a sabotage work is cleverly being carried out.​
Human behaviors, formed from past habits and trainings, have such an inertia that this perspective leads you to a dead end. You entrust these problems to representatives, whose conscience of common well-being slowly fades away in front of corporatist interests, with those difficulties. They are always debating on the form but rarely on the content.​
Just at the moment of action, delays will accumulate to the point when you have to submit rather than choose. This is the reason why, more than ever in your history, your decisions of today will directly and significantly impact your survival of tomorrow.​
What event could radically modify this inertia that is typical of any civilization ? Where will a collective and unifying awareness come from, that will stop this blind rushing ahead ?​
Tribes, populations and human nations have always encountered and interacted with one another. Faced with the threats weighing upon the human family, it is perhaps time that a greater interaction occurred.​
A great roller wave is on the verge of emerging. It mixes very positive but also very negative aspects.​

Who are the "third party"?
There are two ways to establish a cosmic contact with another civilization: via its standing representatives or directly with individuals without distinction. The first way entails fights of interests, the second way brings awareness.​
The first way was chosen by a group of races motivated by keeping mankind in slavery, thereby controlling Earth resources, the gene pool and human emotional energy.​
The second way was chosen by a group of races allied with the cause of the Spirit of service. We have, at our end, subscribed to this disinterested cause and introduced ourselves a few years ago to representatives of the human power who refused our outstretched hand on the pretext of incompatible interests with their strategic vision.​
That is why today individuals are to make this choice by themselves without any representative interfering. What we proposed in the past to those whom we believed were in a capacity to contribute to your happiness, we propose it now to ... you!​
Most of you ignore that non-human creatures took part in the exercise of those centralizing powers without them being neither suspected nor accessible to your senses. This is so true that they have almost very subtly taken control. They do not necessarily stand on your material plan, and that is precisely what could make them extremely efficient and frightening in the near future. However, be aware that a large number of your representatives are fighting this danger ! Be aware that not all abductions are made against you. It is difficult to recognize the truth !​
How could you under such conditions exercise your free will when it is so much manipulated ? What are you really free of ?​
Peace and reunification of your peoples would be a first step toward the harmony with civilizations other than yours.​
That is precisely what those who manipulate you behind the scenes want to avoid at all cost because, by dividing, they reign! They also reign over those who govern you. Their strength comes from their capacity to distillate mistrust and fear into you. This considerably harms your very cosmic nature.​
This message would be of no interest if these manipulators' tutorate did not reach its peak and if their misleading and murderous plans did not materialize in a few years from now. Their deadlines are close and mankind will undergo unprecedented torments for the next ten cycles.​
To defend yourselves against this aggression that bears no face, you need at least to have enough information that leads to the solution.​
As is also the case with humans, resistance exists amongst those dominant races. Here again, appearance will not be enough to tell the dominator from the ally. At your current state of psych-ism, it is extremely difficult for you to distinguish between them. In addition to your intuition, training will be necessary when the time has come.​
Being aware of the priceless value of free will, we are inviting you to an alternative.​

What can we offer?
We can offer you a more holistic vision of the universe and of life, constructive interactions, the experience of fair and fraternal relationships, liberating technical knowledge, eradication of suffering, controlled exercise of individual powers, the access to new forms of energy and, finally, a better comprehension of consciousness.​
We cannot help you overcome your individual and collective fears, or bring you laws that you would not have chosen, work on your own selves, individual and collective effort to build the world you desire, the spirit of quest to new skies.​

What would we receive?
Should you decide that such a contact takes place, we would rejoice over the safeguarding of fraternal equilibrium in this region of the universe, fruitful diplomatic exchanges, and the intense Joy of knowing that you are united to accomplish what you are capable of. The feeling of Joy is strongly sought in the universe for its energy is divine.​

What is the question we ask you?​
"DO YOU WISH THAT WE SHOW UP ?"

How to can you answer this question?
The truth of soul can be read by telepathy. You only need to clearly ask yourself this question and give your answer as clearly, on your own or in a group, as you wish. Being in the heart of a city or in the middle of a desert does not impact the efficiency of your answer, YES or NO, IMMEDIATELY AFTER ASKING THE QUESTION! Just do it as if you were speaking to yourself but thinking about the message.​
This is a universal question and these mere few words, put in their context, have a powerful meaning. You should not let hesitation in the way. This is why you should calmly think about it, in all conscience. In order to perfectly associate your answer with the question, it is recommended that you answer right after another reading of this message.​
Do not rush to answer. Breathe and let all the power of your own free will penetrate you. Be proud of what you are ! The problems that you may have weaken you. Forget about them for a few minutes to be yourselves. Feel the force that springs up in you. You are in control of yourselves !​
A single thought, a single answer can drastically change your near future, in one way as in another.​
Your individual decision of asking in your inner self that we show up on your material plan and in broad daylight is precious and essential to us.​
Even though you can choose the way that best suits you, rituals are essentially useless. A sincere request made with your heart and your own will will always be perceived by those of us whom it is sent to.​
In your own private polling booth of your secret will, you will determine the future.​

What is the lever effect ?
This decision should be made by the greatest number among you, even though it might seem like a minority. It is recommended to spread this message, in all envisage-able fashions, in as many languages as possible, to those around you, whether or not they seem receptive to this new vision of the future.​
Do it using in a humorous tone or derision if that can help you. You can even openly and publicly make fun of it if it makes you feel more comfortable but do not be indifferent for at least you will have exercised your free will.​
Forget about the false prophets and the beliefs that have been transmitted to you about us. This request is one of the most intimate that can be asked to you.
Making a decision by yourself, as an individual, is your right as well as your responsibility !​
Passivity only leads to the absence of freedom. Similarly, indecision is never efficient. If you really want to cling to your beliefs, which is something that we understand, then say NO. If you do not know what to choose, do not say YES because of mere curiosity. This is not a show, this is real daily life, WE ARE ALIVE ! And living !​
Your history has plenty of episodes when determined men and women were able to influence the thread of events in spite of their small number.​
Just like a small number is enough to take temporal power on Earth and influence the future of the majority, a small number of you can radically change your fate as an answer to the impotence in face of so much inertia and hurdles ! You can ease the mankind's birth to Brotherhood.​
One of your thinkers once said: “Give me a hand-hold and I'll raise the Earth".​
Spreading this message will then be the hand-hold to strengthen, we will be the light-years long lever, you will be the craftsmen to ... raise the Earth as a consequence of our appearance.​
What would be the consequences of a positive decision ?​
For us, the immediate consequence of a collective favorable decision would be the materialization of many ships, in your sky and on Earth.​
For you, the direct effect would be the rapid abandoning of many certitudes and beliefs.​
A simple conclusive visual contact would have huge repercussions on your future. Much knowledge would be modified forever. The organization of your societies would be deeply up-heaved for ever, in all fields of activity. Power would become individual because you would see for yourself that we are living. Concretely, you would change the scale of your values !​
The most important thing for us is that humankind would form a single family in front of this "unknown" we would represent !​
Danger would slowly melt away from your homes because you would indirectly force the undesirable ones, those we name the "third party", to show up and vanish. You would all bear the same name and share the same roots: Mankind !​
Later on, peaceful and respectful exchanges would be thus possible if such is your wish. For now, he who is hungry cannot smile, he who is fearful cannot welcome us. We are sad to see men, women and children suffering to such a degree in their flesh and in their hearts when they bear such an inner light.​
This light can be your future. Our relationships could be progressive.​
Several stages of several years or decades would occur: demonstrative appearance of our ships, physical appearance beside human beings, collaboration in your technical and spiritual evolution, discovery of parts of the galaxy.​
Every time, new choices would be offered to you. You would then decide by yourself to cross new stages if you think it necessary to your external and inner well-being. No interference would be decided upon unilaterally. We would leave as soon as you would collectively wish that we do.​
Depending upon the speed to spread the message across the world, several weeks, or even several months will be necessary before our "great appearance", if such is the decision made by the majority of those who will have used their capacity to choose, and if this message receives the necessary support.​
The main difference between your daily prayers to entities of a strictly spiritual nature and your current decision is extremely simple :​
we are technically equipped to materialize!

Why such a historical dilemma?
We know that "foreigners" are considered as enemies as long as they embody the "unknown". In a first stage, the emotion that our appearance will generate will strengthen your relationships on a worldwide scale.​
How could you know whether our arrival is the consequence of your collective choice ? For the simple reason that we would have otherwise been already there for a long time at your level of existence ! If we are not there yet, it is because you have not made such a decision explicitly.​
Some among you might think that we would make you believe in a deliberate choice of yours so as to legitimate our arrival, though this would not be true. What interest would we have to openly offer you what you haven't got any access to yet, for the benefit of the greatest number of you ?​
How could you be certain that this is not yet another subtle maneuver of the "third party" to better enslave you ? Because one always more efficiently fights something that is identified than the contrary. Isn't the terrorism that corrodes you a blatant example ?​
Whatever, you are the sole judge in your own heart and soul ! Whatever your choice, it would be respectable and respected ! In the absence of human representatives who could potentially seduce into error you ignore everything about us as well as from about those who manipulate you without your consent.​
In your situation, the precautionary principle that consists in not trying to discover us does no longer prevail. You are already in the Pandora's box that the "third party" has created around you. Whatever your decision may be you will have to get out of it.​
In the face of such a dilemma, one ignorance against another, you need to ask your intuition. Do you want to see us with your own eyes, or simply believe what your thinkers say ? That is the real question!​
After thousands of years, one day, this choice was going to be inevitable: choosing between two unknowns.

Why spread such a message among yourselves?
Translate and spread this message widely. This action will affect your future in an irreversible and historical way at the scale of millennium, otherwise, it will postpone a new opportunity to choose to several years later, at least one generation, if it can survive.​
Not choosing, stands for undergoing other people's choice. Not informing others stands for running the risk of obtaining a result that is contrary to one's expectations. Remaining indifferent means giving up one's free will.​
It is all about your future. It is all about your evolution.​
It is possible that this invitation does not receive your collective assent and that, because of a lack of information, it will be disregarded. Nevertheless no individual desire goes unheeded in the universe.​
Imagine our arrival tomorrow. Thousands of ships. A unique cultural shock in today's mankind's history. It will then be too late to regret about not making a choice and spreading the message because this discovery will be irreversible. We do insist that you do not rush into it, but do think about it ! And decide !​
The big medias will not be necessarily interested in spreading this message. It is therefore your task, as an anonymous yet an extraordinary thinking and loving being, to transmit it.​
You are still the architects of your own fate...​
"DO YOU WISH THAT WE SHOW UP ?"

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Members mentioned to me that there is the very real possibility that whomever channeled this info may be receiving it from a source not of the light, aka negative being. This is always possible. I ran across another channel that discusses this exact thing, and it happened to come through about the same time. Here it is:

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I am Nibara of the Pleiadian High Counsel.
I come with news of great importance. Around your planet are hundreds of ships from many worlds. They come to watch your Earth's Ascension. They also come to make themselves known to you at a time of great global distress. They come as saviors for your environmental woes; however, they do not offer solutions to your one great need. You are divinely contracted to remain on Earth and be part of the Earth's Ascension Process. This has significant meaning dear ones.
You must remain on earth if you wish to experience Ascension. You must not go aboard any ship that promises to take you away to safety or a better world. We of the Pleiadian Counsel wish you to know that you will be approached by some who look like angelic beings. They will glow with heavenly light and be beautiful to see but they are not angelic in their desires to lure you away from earth. Their goal is to take as many souls as possible off world so they cannot Ascend. They have their own agenda and it does not include what is best for you or Mother Earth.

When you see them land the correct protocol and greeting is:
"It is the manner and custom when entering my space to ask permission."

They will ask. You then say:
"I am of Earth. I am sovereign. I am an equal. You may not interfere with me."

They may or may not continue at this point. If they continue ask them:
"Are you of the Light?"

Only true beings of the Light will respond with a yes. All others will be unable to respond because this is a Universal Law that we all must abide by and it is your key to discernment.

I am Nibara of the Pleiadian High Counsel and I send you are love and blessings.

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Now granted, whether you believe in channels or not, if you go asking for someone to show up, it is best that they be of the Light so this simple precaution should be heeded. Maybe we could make T-shirts with this phrasing on it or something, who knows. The deal is...if ships land,...consider this a contingency! If they don't land (despite our collective will asking for it to happen), then we continue on and live our lives as we wish them to be.
 

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I know this is a poll, but let's be real, just like the Bible, it was contrived by man, and not some other power.

There's nothing in there that flies in the face of any sociological dogma that is currently accepted about the human race. A little self evaluation and outside observation, and the conclusions about our history, and possible future are pretty evident.

What I don't like about this kind of writing is that it's trying to come across as scientific, when in fact there's nothing different in it's message than the typical religion that a piece like this would have you believe it is devoid of.

It purely revolves around the idea that there is some other power out there that is looking out for our best interests. How is that not religious?

If we accept them into our lives, they will enlighten us. How is that not religious?
 

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Religion is reliance on external salvation, Spirituality is realizing that you are it.

The question asked is if you wish them to show up. Free Will collective decides it. that's the concept anyway.
 

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There's no way I'm reading all that. Therefore, I vote no.
 

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That was pretty dumb.

so I added this just for you

For those afflicted with ADHD / ADD, or who just don't want to read that much info, this is a question asking if ET's should show up or not. It is a request apparently by those ET's, they are asking if they should become known to us. Voting just because you don't want to read is... not fair to the question being asked.
 

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What would be "pretty dumb" would be to post something resembling the OP, while simultaneously trying to make the point that people should think for themselves.

Voting just because you don't want to read is... not fair to the question being asked.
No, it would be much more than fair. Not all questions deserve answers.
 

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Over 116 views, but just a few polls. Fair enough, as long as you answer it in your heart, that's all that matters.
 

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Who are we?
Neither your scientists nor your religious representatives speak unanimously about the unexplained celestial events that mankind has witnessed for thousands of years. To know the truth, one must face it without the filter of one's beliefs, however respectable they may be.
A growing number of anonymous researchers of yours are exploring new knowledge paths and are getting very close to reality. Today, your civilization is flooded with an ocean of information of which only a tiny part, the less upsetting one, is notably diffused.​

I got this far, then lol'd.

"Take off your rose-colored glasses and open your mind to what you've never thought about thinking. What you're going to see on this journey is going to be bright, man, so you might want to put on my light magenta-tinted sunglasses to protect your brittle inner self."
 

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Does the conception of this information lead me to answer yes? Yes.

But does this information purpose itself as evidence of? I would think that to be a better question than do we want "visitors". If an being is involved in time travel, then wouldn't it's understanding of alternate dimensional beings also be advanced enough to discern if they are wanted?
 

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I have been watching through The Wormhole and similar shows . . . one which is about S.E.T.I.

An observer thought she was receiving a message when the telescope was aimed a certain way.

So they aimed it away from said signal { nothing } then back towards said object and there was the signal.

IT was one of our vehicles bouncing a signal off said object.

I expect another world war as opposed to aliens
 

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I'm surprised ETs know English so well and have patience to write for so long.
 

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hell yea,

you CANT be any worse then fukin humans. (rape murder, greed, racism etc etc)

bring it.


*that was an answer given by one whos add is too acute to read the special footnote for those with add*
 

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Does the conception of this information lead me to answer yes? Yes.

But does this information purpose itself as evidence of? I would think that to be a better question than do we want "visitors". If an being is involved in time travel, then wouldn't it's understanding of alternate dimensional beings also be advanced enough to discern if they are wanted?
I think I can answer this a bit. Higher dimensional or density beings are not "time travelers" in the sense we are familiar with, such as movies have shown us. Being that they are eternal (as we are), time becomes a non-factor. What governs your question more is if they would be able to discern if they are wanted. Turns out, we have the Free Will to decide this as a collective, and so the moment is ours to choose. Sure they can view our history, they can view our future, but what they view are only possibilities as we choose our path. So they know all the possible answers but they don't know the one we will follow, until we do.

I think explaining higher densities is quite difficult because of course we only perceive 3 with 4 being a conveyor belt we ride on (time.) But, think of it this way:

3rd density - Spirit -> Thought -> Emotion -> Effort -> Manifestation

4th density - Spirit -> Thought -> Emotion -> Manifestation

5th density - Spirit -> Thought -> Manifestation

FYI we are riding the edge of 4th density at this time. This can't be used for greed and unearned abundance (like you can't think about being rich and end up rich), because these things are illusions anyway and do not help grow the soul. But it can be peace, happiness, love, etc. At this time our collective thoughts propel us to our destiny, while most of us simply do not realize we are co-creators of where we are headed. But people are discovering it. I have, in my own life, experienced a noticeable and definite improvement in every realm except material things. Those things seem to be at a level sufficient to be happy and provide for my family while still I have to watch the budget and tighten up here or there. Certainly no big deal, we all do it. But the non-material stuff ...quite literally I just meditate or even daydream / wish things to happen, and in some manifestation I see progress! Almost no effort at all expended mind you!


You asked a great question, I feel that my answer while just an opinion, properly explains it.
 
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