[ViperVin]

For those with Eclipse units (CD7200 MKII, CD8445, CD8455, CD8454, etc), how well does the E-iSERV automatic audio tuning work? Were you happy with the results?

 

[Redcloud]

For those with Eclipse units (CD7200 MKII, CD8445, CD8455, CD8454, etc), how well does the E-iSERV automatic audio tuning work? Were you happy with the results?

I had the CD7200 and was wondering the same thing. When I asked the dealer on how it would work he said you would need another piece of equipment to set it up and it wasn't worth the hassle. Could of been them just being lazy or maybe it wasn't worth it. I would sure like to find out though.

 

[ViperVin]

I had the CD7200 and was wondering the same thing. When I asked the dealer on how it would work he said you would need another piece of equipment to set it up and it wasn't worth the hassle. Could of been them just being lazy or maybe it wasn't worth it. I would sure like to find out though.

I think all you need is the microphone. Once the HU captures the data, you transfer the saved file to a PC for analysis.

 

[JohnnyTwoTone]

If I could figure out how in God's name you even get the auto turn to work, on my CD8454, I would do it and tell you how it sounds.

I have the mic and I know where to plug it in (on the back of the unit itself) but the manual doesn't even friggin' mention how to get it started and I've clicked through every option in the deck's menus to no avail.

 

[Rudeboy]

Here are the instructions for the 8454:

My microphone never worked but I didn't pursue it because the consensus at the time was that it wasn't worth the effort.

 

[smgreen20]

Mine worked flawlessly. I did the auto tune then went to e-iserv and loaded everything and looking at the curve, I wrote down on paper what I would do to flatten the freq out and then had the e-iserv do it, it did it just as I did.

I think it is a good thing. Did a good job for as basic as it is.

I have the CD8455

 

[JohnnyTwoTone]

^^What the hell? I looked through this damn manual a dozen times never finding the auto tune instructions and now BLAM I'm reading them on those corresponding pages.

I'm going to go try this whore out right now!

 

[BMWturbo]

You may find you have issues with the CD7200 reading the sweep in 3-WAY mode.

I'm currently talking to eclipse re this issue and thus far have tried a second deck and second mic and have not been able to get it to register a sweep in the 3-Way mode.

4SP+ Sub works fine and TBH depending on how well you do the initial testing the E-iserv does an okay job of auto-tune, though it is a little bit conservative in some areas and excessive in other through my experience.

I never had any issues reading both 4SP+ sub and 3-Way modes however, it's only the CD7200MKII that I'm having problems with. I have been able to get the 'custom' mode to work on the CD7200, but never had any success on the CD8455.

 

[kidwolf909]

How on earth do you get your frequency data to save to a USB drive on the 7200mkII?

I can get it to take the readings display them on screen with the PEQ, but the file is never written to the USB drive for uploading or anything.

I e-mailed Eclipse, but they never returned my question.

 

[JohnnyTwoTone]

Well, good and bad news here. I got the auto tune to work on my 8454 and it works pretty well. It really is just a lazy way to tune, though, since you can just do all the PEQ adjustments yourself - and you'll likely make some personally preference changes to what the auto tune gives you. But, it gets you started at least.

The bad news is that the memory card that comes with the deck needs to be formatted by the deck and apparently not formatted anywhere else. I took my card - which had been formatted way back when I got the deck - and slapped it in the deck, did the auto tune, setup the x-overs then pressed the "Data Write" function to save the settings to the card. That worked but when I took the card to my PC to be able to load them into the E-iServe program on the net the computer said, "card is not formatted". I thought to myself, "If I clicked to format this card here I bet anything the card will become useless to the deck." But, there was no other way to get things to work. How else was I going to be able to get the info to my PC. So, after some debating I said screw it and clicked format (using FAT - the only option). Well, now the card works for the PC to access the card and transfer stuff but the 8454 deck won't recognize it. I get the MSINFO 2 error code - which means I need to format the card using the deck. When I go to format the card (going into the format option and then pressing the "sel" button for over 2 seconds) the menus just blinks back to the main menu (eg. out of the format selection option) as though nothing was done to the card. If I go to "Data Write" the whole deck freezes. Sound still plays as normal but none of the buttons or dials works. I have to turn the car off and turn it back on so that the deck resets.

So, yeah. Apparently if you format the card using the deck, save your info, then slap the card into a PC card reader it MAY work or it may tell you that the card needs to be formatted there to work. If you click format on your PC your card is done as far as using it in your deck anymore is concerned.

I don't about it enough to find and buy a new card for the deck as the E-iServe doesn't offer you anything that you can't do manually but it's still a convenient feature that I would have like to try and use.

 

[BMWturbo]

How on earth do you get your frequency data to save to a USB drive on the 7200mkII?

I can get it to take the readings display them on screen with the PEQ, but the file is never written to the USB drive for uploading or anything.

I e-mailed Eclipse, but they never returned my question.

RTFM Hold the #6 Button down after registering a sweep and it will create a folder in your USB drive called ECLIPSE under which is will have DATA and SOUND.

You won't save the data unless it displays 'Completed' after a sweep either.

 

[BMWturbo]

Well, good and bad news here. I got the auto tune to work on my 8454 and it works pretty well. It really is just a lazy way to tune, though, since you can just do all the PEQ adjustments yourself - and you'll likely make some personally preference changes to what the auto tune gives you. But, it gets you started at least.

The bad news is that the memory card that comes with the deck needs to be formatted by the deck and apparently not formatted anywhere else. I took my card - which had been formatted way back when I got the deck - and slapped it in the deck, did the auto tune, setup the x-overs then pressed the "Data Write" function to save the settings to the card. That worked but when I took the card to my PC to be able to load them into the E-iServe program on the net the computer said, "card is not formatted". I thought to myself, "If I clicked to format this card here I bet anything the card will become useless to the deck." But, there was no other way to get things to work. How else was I going to be able to get the info to my PC. So, after some debating I said screw it and clicked format (using FAT - the only option). Well, now the card works for the PC to access the card and transfer stuff but the 8454 deck won't recognize it. I get the MSINFO 2 error code - which means I need to format the card using the deck. When I go to format the card (going into the format option and then pressing the "sel" button for over 2 seconds) the menus just blinks back to the main menu (eg. out of the format selection option) as though nothing was done to the card. If I go to "Data Write" the whole deck freezes. Sound still plays as normal but none of the buttons or dials works. I have to turn the car off and turn it back on so that the deck resets.

So, yeah. Apparently if you format the card using the deck, save your info, then slap the card into a PC card reader it MAY work or it may tell you that the card needs to be formatted there to work. If you click format on your PC your card is done as far as using it in your deck anymore is concerned.

I don't about it enough to find and buy a new card for the deck as the E-iServe doesn't offer you anything that you can't do manually but it's still a convenient feature that I would have like to try and use.

E-iserv offers you the ability to use the 'custom' mode which gives you finer resolution over the deck, IE 0.05ms delay incrments, unlimited crossover frequencies, and 0.5dB level adjustment on the PEQ.

Try deleting everything from the stick on the PC and then use the Eclipse format function. I'm almost certain I started off formatting my stick on the PC and had to get the deck to format it to get it to work. I never had any issues with my card reader reading the disc either, but i DID have to create the exact folder the HU wanted on the PC for them to record to the Stick.

 

[JohnnyTwoTone]

I took the totally blank card and added the folder MSFTEN the in that folder added the folders "SOUND" and "DATA". I then downloaded a setup off of the E-iServer web site and put it in the "DATA" folder. When I went out to my car and put the stick in it again said MSINFO 2 clicked Data Read, it still said MSINFO 2 and locked up the deck's buttons/dials when I clicked Data Write but the one change is that when I clicked Format instead of it says "OK?" it simply said "MSINFO 2". Holding down the sel button for over 2 seconds did the same as before - made the format menu go back to the main menu like nothing happened. So, formatting didn't work.

Is there some other method to formatting the card? I don't understand how using a PC to format the card could cause it to become non-functional to the deck considering "FAT" is the format system the deck formats the card in as well, and you have to be able to use the card with you PC to do anything.

EDIT: Do I have to name the card something after formatting it maybe?

 

[kidwolf909]

RTFM Hold the #6 Button down after registering a sweep and it will create a folder in your USB drive called ECLIPSE under which is will have DATA and SOUND.

You won't save the data unless it displays 'Completed' after a sweep either.

Damn, if you're right man, I will be ecstatic! I've had my MEI-100 for 6 months now and haven't been able to properly use it yet!!! lol

I'll let you know tomorrow

 

[kidwolf909]

RTFM Hold the #6 Button down after registering a sweep and it will create a folder in your USB drive called ECLIPSE under which is will have DATA and SOUND.

You won't save the data unless it displays 'Completed' after a sweep either.

Okay. This doesn't work for me at all. By holding the #6 button, my 7200mkII just starts another sweep. It doesn't say anything about completed or writing or anything. I tried multiple combinations, but to no avail. Is this an issue with my unit alone or are you just unsure about this process?

 

[BMWturbo]

Kid:- Are you in 3-way mode or 4sp+sub mode? This will make a difference.

I found that in the beginning my sweeps would not register.

For starters, can you see the 'eclipse' folder on the USB Drive? If this has been created you most lielly have some form of data being stored.

 

[kidwolf909]

Kid:- Are you in 3-way mode or 4sp+sub mode? This will make a difference.

I found that in the beginning my sweeps would not register.

For starters, can you see the 'eclipse' folder on the USB Drive? If this has been created you most lielly have some form of data being stored.

I'm in 4sp + sub mode right now. And in addition, I have no eclipse folder on the drive at all. I formatted it to FAT32 and fresh from format I tried to do a sweep and write to it and got nothing.

I'm going to call Eclipse tech support if I can't get this figured out.

 

[BMWturbo]

These are the two references to the 'Sweep' in the CD7200 MKII manual.

I'm sure you are doing all tha above though and are using the MEI-100 microphone connected to the L Aux Input.

I have also been told to ensure that your country is set in the tuner section. You'll need to do this in standby mode and by holding button #3 down from memory and changing the tuner mode until you get to the USA I assume in your case.

I didn't do any formatting to my USB drive, it was literally removed from the packet, had a heap of MP3 etc files dumped on to it and it write to a folder it created called 'eclipse' after performing the sweeps.

You might try also putting the mic right near a driver to ensure it's not something similar to what myself and another member have been experiencing when running in 3-WAY mode.

 

[JohnnyTwoTone]

My Auto Tune has just stopped working last week out of friggin' now where! It was working the week before but now it's not.

I do everything the same as I always would and the deck says, "Measuring" but when it's all done the deck doesn't show the results properly at all (it just shows a couple point's instead of all the proper curves) and it doesn't save anything, so as soon as I exit the PEQ it resets.

Friggin' car audio, eh

 

[BMWturbo]

Interesting. I spent over a week testing and working (with Eclipse Australia) through an issue with the sweep not working in 3-WAY mode.

I was sent a replacement microphone (the one eclipse used to test in the lab) and when this performed the exact same problem, I was sent another complete unit, which functioned in the exact same manor.

What I found (along with another member here who had the same issue) was that the mic would register a sweep and display 'Completed' after it when the mic was placed very close to the midrange driver. The sweep would not function correctly when situated in the listening position.

It was suggested by eclipse that the 'sweep' function has a 'design feature' to not work in 3-WAY mode which I believe is a cop-out for a function that doesn't work as intended.

The issue with the 'design feature' is that the higher resolution on e-iserv is not available unless you have a 'data' file to load the response curve into the e-iserv program. If you do not have a data file to load in you cannot access the PEQ section to tune the response. Only the TA and X-over are available.

In short Eclipse have a 3-WAY option on the e-iserv menu for hte CD7200MKII so the sweep function must be intended to work when in 3-WAY mode, but Eclipse Australia are claiming that it isn't supposed to, which is rediculous as you would limit the power of the HU by not allowing people access to the 'Custom' mode and associated finer resolution on TA, X-over and PEQ settings in 3-WAY mode which I dare say is the mode that most people who are interested in the 'sweep' function would be running the HU in.