Lift???Why lift, unless you shake the slicks...that is what the clutch is for.It would be pop the clutch on launch and immediately pop it again to grab second. The problem here is lifting off the throttle between shifts you lose boost in a manual. Off the line you can't build boost without some sort of launch control which will make the turbo hate you. You don't deal with the suspension unloading on the shifts. I come off the line with the left tire in the air, right tire barely on the ground, no steering control, and having to get off and back on the power would probably mean blowing the tires away. For the fun factor, I agree with using a manual. For a large turbo car that needs to go fast in a straight line the auto with a high stall provides power the instant you put your foot into it.
I agree. My "old car" is on the list. :blush: I had an RX-8. Not extremely fast with a 0-60 at 6.4 but I could kill any Ford or Dodge sports car if it had a couple turns. When I say sports cars, I mean the real ones, not the ones that look the same but have smaller engines. I could beat the SE and SXT, especially if they were automatics..... And yes, I could do RH turns at 30 and LH turns at 50 without the traction control giving me fits... It turns out though that the RX-8 is not so much a girls car but a kids car. Most everyone driving them is 16-28....Sorry. I equate "man's car" to "fun and rewarding to drive", which does not necessarily mean in a straight line. I enjoy a 100HP Miata more than a GTO. A balanced car is more fun than a "fast" car to me. HP alone does not create fun.
I don't think you are out of line for liking fast high-HP cars, I'm just saying your tastes and my tastes differ. That doesn't make me any less of a man, contrary to what the troll of an OP would suggest
Personally I think the automatics are vastly superior in some regards with their planetary gearsets. You have planetary gearsets and a clutch pack or band for each gear. Gears are not "shifted", they're always in mesh with one another. You can have a clutch pack dedicated to the sun gear and another clutch dedicated to the ring gear in order to change ratios. To change gears, one clutch pack is released, another applied. No physical shifting of the gears ever happens. A planetary gearset is much stronger by design than a traditional gearset in a manual. Some racing transmissions use this type of gearset. I would love to see this style used without the torque converter with a regular dry clutch coupling. You would only have to use the main clutch for starting and stopping, the clutchpacks on each gear could be shifting at full power. It would be like an automatic but without the torque converter and you would have to shift yourself.Ok, I saw a thing on how F1 tranny work. They mentioned engaging dogs. Pretty slick
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