Dongguan Erisson Acoustics Technology Co., Ltd. - Car Component Speaker, Car Coaxial Speaker - producing for many well know brand
Lundegaard (Foshan) Audio Technology Co., Limited - Car Audio, Car Speaker - waiting for samples of their 3way speakers
https://sxaudio.en.alibaba.com/?spm=a2700.9114905.0.0.gjIgDf - have also the same layout as SI amps, but wont sell it to you due to signed contracts

 

Dongguan Erisson Acoustics Technology Co., Ltd. - Car Component Speaker, Car Coaxial Speaker - producing for many well know brand
Lundegaard (Foshan) Audio Technology Co., Limited - Car Audio, Car Speaker - waiting for samples of their 3way speakers
Guangzhou Shengxin Electronics Co., Ltd. - have also the same layout as SI amps, but wont sell it to you due to signed contracts

I ll be honest, I dont quite get how Alibaba works. I was always under the impression it was just cheap stuff. Are you saying that these are basically the build house for other well known speakers and they are just selling them unbranded cheap on the site?

Just at a casual glance I saw what looks like the JBL bluetooth speaker we just bought for our son. Looks to be the same, same colors, same everything, just missing the JBL logo, which it looks to have the spot for.

 

Some look like players, but you look closer and it doesn’t add up.

 

That's how some of alibabe works. A lot of it also works where they sell knockoffs of name brand products that look the same, but are not at all the same in function.

I don't think you're going to get any good sounding speakers for super cheap on alibaba. While most of the boutique drivers are made in build houses in China, the Chinese typically copy more well known products, not low volume stuff most won't recognize.

 

Haven’t checked out speakers on there but looked at a set of power steps for the truck...steps were $550 and shipping was $650. Lol. Shipping cost is getting out of hand just about everywhere.

 

@Ssopus if its HST code falls into a tariff block, the cost will go even higher!

 

Yeah I didn’t even think about that...and even with little to no issues exactly how long before you took delivery? “It would have to be a no from me dogg” 😁

 

buying cheap doesnt always turn out to be cheap in the end. You are buying a cat in the sack for a cheap price. Ask yourself what is going on with service and Guarantee..... most probably you wont send mercandice back to china when it fails...

 

I’ve pondered the same thing browsing Ali express and Ali baba. Some items could be had for cheap that are decent quality but the overwhelming majority of the items are cheap lower quality versions. Everything I’ve bought off of there was “meh” quality at best with the exception of stuff from David melo audio he sells the Alpine vifa tweeters and other vifa/peerless items... but yeah there’s fake focal, fake balm audio, fake alpine. The dsps ive researched and the only ones worth a damn are a few hundred bucks or more and at that point just buy a Dayton or MiniDSP...

With that being said I’m still intrigued by getting gems for cheap I have a few items coming from AliExpress right now tweeters and car accessoreies... plus I’m in contact with a supplier about getting some other items but I know damn well it’s a gamble that will only pay off one out of ten times where I’m happy... LOL

 

I prefer speakers made in France & Italy...

You want to save money?

Buy used...

 

to answer one posters question, Alibaba allows you to communicate directly with Manufacturers, most of which are in China. It’s generally a b2b enterprise and often times you will see there’s a purchase minimum of 50-500 pieces but there’s also plenty of items with a 1 piece min. You can filter products that way, which makes the process easier. Ali express is more b2c friendly but I’ve bought individual products from alibaba, so it is possible. I know some of the manufactures that list products on alibaba are the exact same that supply large companies with products, the problem is finding the right ones.

I know blindly buying cheap things on Alibaba is a risk that will pay off a very low % of the time. However, that is why I’m trying to find the good manufactures. We all know most of the products we buy come from China. I’m trying to form a group of people with personal experience of the good manufactures.

I think people assume China manufactures can only make cheap quality stuff but that’s less because of their capability and more because that’s what US companies request of them. These large corps want the largest margins possible so they order from the cheapest location possible and negotiate for the cheapest possible price. I think it would be possible to negotiate for a higher quality product if you were willing to pay more than the bottom level price. AudioFrog uses a Chinese manufacturer and they quickly becoming a favorite for high quality speakers, I’d love to figure out which manufacturer they use, could imagine getting some GB80’s for $100?

alibaba is a weird site and feels very....unintuitive? I can’t think of the word but it’s not straight forward like Amazon where you’re just a couple clicks away from the product being at your doors later that day. There are some products where you can do that but most the time you need to chat with a rep of the manufacture.

I bet there’s plenty of Chinese manufactures that can make products just as good as anyone. China is the manufacturing capital of the world, I’m sure they have learned a thing or two on the process.

so if anyone is interested in being in rid group that tried to find the good manufactures, send me a pm and I’ll get around to it, not sure the medium I’ll use but it will probably be Discord.

People act like buying cheap items is a waste of time but 90% of the time that’s exactly what you’re doing by buying through a large US company, you’re just paying extra to go through a middleman. I think the risks of lack of warranty or service are worth it if you’re paying 10%-25% the name brand price

 

to answer one posters question, Alibaba allows you to communicate directly with Manufacturers, most of which are in China. It’s generally a b2b enterprise and often times you will see there’s a purchase minimum of 50-500 pieces but there’s also plenty of items with a 1 piece min. You can filter products that way, which makes the process easier. Ali express is more b2c friendly but I’ve bought individual products from alibaba, so it is possible. I know some of the manufactures that list products on alibaba are the exact same that supply large companies with products, the problem is finding the right ones.

I know blindly buying cheap things on Alibaba is a risk that will pay off a very low % of the time. However, that is why I’m trying to find the good manufactures. We all know most of the products we buy come from China. I’m trying to form a group of people with personal experience of the good manufactures.

I think people assume China manufactures can only make cheap quality stuff but that’s less because of their capability and more because that’s what US companies request of them. These large corps want the largest margins possible so they order from the cheapest location possible and negotiate for the cheapest possible price. I think it would be possible to negotiate for a higher quality product if you were willing to pay more than the bottom level price. AudioFrog uses a Chinese manufacturer and they quickly becoming a favorite for high quality speakers, I’d love to figure out which manufacturer they use, could imagine getting some GB80’s for $100?

alibaba is a weird site and feels very....unintuitive? I can’t think of the word but it’s not straight forward like Amazon where you’re just a couple clicks away from the product being at your doors later that day. There are some products where you can do that but most the time you need to chat with a rep of the manufacture.

I bet there’s plenty of Chinese manufactures that can make products just as good as anyone. China is the manufacturing capital of the world, I’m sure they have learned a thing or two on the process.

so if anyone is interested in being in rid group that tried to find the good manufactures, send me a pm and I’ll get around to it, not sure the medium I’ll use but it will probably be Discord.

People act like buying cheap items is a waste of time but 90% of the time that’s exactly what you’re doing by buying through a large US company, you’re just paying extra to go through a middleman. I think the risks of lack of warranty or service are worth it if you’re paying 10%-25% the name brand price

I know it's been a while since you posted this but,
did you ever for that group you talked about?

 

I would rather pay the 10%-25% premium for the name brand price difference and have the backing of the manufacturer plus all their research and development costs are worth a lot. I’m 110% sure Andy Wehmeyer would agree and his years of experience and expertise are what we are paying the premium for. Just about everything I buy direct from China has been a disappointing experience. Amazon and Facebook are notorious for selling inferior sub par Chinese junk of which I fell for too many times now because of price.

Although the Chinese people themselves are good people, the Chinese Communist Party, which controls most of the Chinese people are not. The Xinjiang internment camps that have enslaved (slave labor) the Uighur people is a humanitarian issue I also don’t support and what they are doing to the people of Hong Kong is a disgrace. I think it’s time America wean themselves off of the cheap China labor addiction and seek other sources.

 

I would rather pay the 10%-25% premium for the name brand price difference and have the backing of the manufacturer plus all their research and development costs are worth a lot. I’m 110% sure Andy Wehmeyer would agree and his years of experience and expertise are what we are paying the premium for. Just about everything I buy direct from China has been a disappointing experience. Amazon and Facebook are notorious for selling inferior sub par Chinese junk of which I fell for too many times now because of price.

Although the Chinese people themselves are good people, the Chinese Communist Party, which controls most of the Chinese people are not. The Xinjiang internment camps that have enslaved (slave labor) the Uighur people is a humanitarian issue I also don’t support and what they are doing to the people of Hong Kong is a disgrace. I think it’s time America wean themselves off of the cheap China labor addiction and seek other sources.

Exactly, the Chinese people are amazing people, but their government is committing a mini hollocaust as we speak. Sterilizing women, re training camps, harvesting their organs of ones that disobey.

People, especially big sports organizations like the olympics, NBA, and international businesses need to step up and say something. People need to stop making the China topic about politics... its not its about human rights abuses its absolutely disgusting and its the people who look the other way.. for it be over sheer ignorance, political gain, or financial /business purposes... they will have to live with it on their conscious.

 

So after a couple hours on alibaba I think it clear who the best speaker manufacturer is. I believe it's Erikson and I also believe I found the speaker that Audiofrog's GB60 was based off. The numbers match up as well as the appearance. Anyway, I ordered a pair, I'll let you know how they sound in a few months.

This product is no longer available.

This product is no longer available.

www.alibaba.com

 

I have some samples on way (3way mid-class and high-class component speakers) , will test them later, after reorganising my place, cause due to covid & lockdown have to test them at home ...

 

i believe these woofers are the same product, same rms, only 6" speaker ive ever seen,

Audiofrog G60S

G-Series 6-1/2" component speaker system

www.crutchfield.com

Source High Professional midbass 4ohm 50W 6inch midbass speaker car on m.alibaba.com

High Professional midbass 4ohm 50W 6inch midbass speaker car, You can get more details about from mobile site on m.alibaba.com

erisson-audio.en.alibaba.com

so yeah, i think the price warrants the risk, these high end speakers are marked up like crazy

 

those ones on alibaba look most similar to these in my opinion.. cone looks nothing like the frogs... but the similarities stop at just the look of the cone.. LOL

XXM652- XCELSIA SERIES 6.5″ MIDBASS – XCELSUS AUDIO

www.xcelsus.com.au

 

I'm aware of how businesses work, and for 99% of the people not willing to do the research online, businesses can capitalize on that market, but if people in the USA are able to get high-quality products from China, I would also like to do that. Most of Erickson's speaker's list Neo magnets as well. if China is going to destroy our manufacturing with its low cost of goods, I'd at least like to benefit from that in some way and by just buying them from Big Car Audio, I'm getting all the negatives of global trade with only a small % of the benefit.

I have a pair of AudioFrog G60s that I regret spending $350 dollars for as while the tweeters are nice, the woofers are less impressive than my $60 Kicker Co-axials and now that I've been browsing Alibaba for a few days, I'm certain the woofers are no different than the ones listed by Erickson on Ali, which cost between $10-$30 dollars.


Audiofrog is a good company as the reviews indicate, but I doubt they have spent large sums of money on R&D as they are small. Next time I spend $350 on speakers, I'm going to try a large company's top of the line models like the MTX SS7 as they are able to spend the money on R&D and get their products for cheaper as they buy in large quantities and their margins are able to be smaller because of the large number of sales.

That's assuming this dive into the world of cheap china speakers doesn't work out I'm sure there are others who feel the same way. If globalization is here to stay, I want to reap the rewards before it ultimately lowers our standard of living while raising the rest of the world until all is even.

Has anyone tried these Erickson speakers? They seem like one of the better speaker manufacturers on Alibaba

 

I'm aware of how businesses work, and for 99% of the people not willing to do the research online, businesses can capitalize on that market, but if people in the USA are able to get high-quality products from China, I would also like to do that. Most of Erickson's speaker's list Neo magnets as well. if China is going to destroy our manufacturing with its low cost of goods, I'd at least like to benefit from that in some way and by just buying them from Big Car Audio, I'm getting all the negatives of global trade with only a small % of the benefit.

I have a pair of AudioFrog G60s that I regret spending $350 dollars for as while the tweeters are nice, the woofers are less impressive than my $60 Kicker Co-axials and now that I've been browsing Alibaba for a few days, I'm certain the woofers are no different than the ones listed by Erickson on Ali, which cost between $10-$30 dollars.


Audiofrog is a good company as the reviews indicate, but I doubt they have spent large sums of money on R&D as they are small. Next time I spend $350 on speakers, I'm going to try a large company's top of the line models like the MTX SS7 as they are able to spend the money on R&D and get their products for cheaper as they buy in large quantities and their margins are able to be smaller because of the large number of sales.

That's assuming this dive into the world of cheap china speakers doesn't work out I'm sure there are others who feel the same way. If globalization is here to stay, I want to reap the rewards before it ultimately lowers our standard of living while raising the rest of the world until all is even.

Has anyone tried these Erickson speakers? They seem like one of the better speaker manufacturers on Alibaba

You have that backwards. Audiofrog does more R&D than 90% of other speaker manufacturers out there. You do have their lowest line, not the GB ones that are highly sought after but with that being said you probably need some tuning, they should sound way better than kickers..

The guy from Audiofrog, Andy literally starts with a target curve in a car (like a target frequency response) and designs the driver around that... Alot of other companies just rip off home designs or someone elses design and slap a car audio name on it..

The G60S are supposed to be drop in replacements for factory speakers... The GB60 has more excursion than any other 6.5" mid on the market for car audio use. The GB25 has an extremely flat, low distortion frequency response.. actually so does the GB60

You probably need some EQ and tuning.. i havent tried the lower lines of Audiofrog but the only reason i bought the GB series is I was disappointed time after time by cheaper speakers and their **** designs ripped off from the home audio industry. Audiofrog literally bespoke designs their drivers for car use and only car use... So i would guess you have a tuning problem.. I would get at least a Dayton DSP and a minidsp mic and use REW to do some EQ work

 

Just so you know... My company makes medical devices in China... and Japan and korea, and puerto rico and dominican republic and ireland, italy, germany, switzerland, the netherlands and the US.

 

Samples from Dongguan Erisson arrived today, just unboxing them to make photos. Testing will take place in weeks. Build quality seems to be quite good

1st sample - mid level 3way component set with paper membrane and silk tweeter

2nd sample - mid level 3way component speaker with better midbass and phase plug and titanium tweeter

3rd sample - high level 3way component set with carbon membrane and titanium tweeter

 

Samples from Dongguan Erisson arrived today, just unboxing them to make photos. Testing will take place in weeks. Build quality seems to be quite good

1st sample - mid level 3way component set with paper membrane and silk tweeter
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2nd sample - mid level 3way component speaker with better midbass and phase plug and titanium tweeter
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3rd sample - high level 3way component set with carbon membrane and titanium tweeter
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That’s the exact set I was going to order to test. Please let us Know how they preform.

 

Looks good!

 

Any updates? Mine are still in the mail but I ended up getting the ones that were like $85 before shipping and fees and kinda looked like the gb80s though I had wished I woulda got the carbon fiber ones but we shall see

 

overwatchanticheat - there is no such thing as a GB80.

If you want cheap stuff from China, it will be a slippery slope of no warranty, you buy it you own it, no technical support, numbers listed for speaker specs will have nothing to back them up, etc etc.

You have installed a complete active GB component set, with proper vehicle treatments and tuning?

Which speakers are currently in your system, IE what vehicle and audio model setup from the factory and which speakers are switched and aftermarket?

My brain is trying to wrap around the main argument of, "my speakers X, don't sound right or should have cost less".

Most of the Audiofrog models I have see you list, are for one either incorrect or unsure of what you are asking of said component being installed into X location with a particular amplification setup - IE tuning in the factory system, designed to compliment or work with the original output of the factory speakers.

I can relate to wanting to speak in anecdote, but all business aside, there is nothing even comparable from what I have seen listed in this thread, to anything designed and produced for Audiofrog.

Please don't take this as me coming at you, it's just that fact is fact and the world of unknowns in China is huge. The product produced by Audiofrog is known and real and has the specs and customer service to back it up. You get more of what you pay for, every time - by design.

If those other speakers work out for you or other users, that would be great as this forum is about DIY.

We are however, just going to have to take someone's word for it, should any of the aforementioned test products get put to use; unless they provide tuning and output stats for others to see and compare with.

 

Due to Covid things are moving very slowly, so my little home studio for testing these speakers is very postponed. I am waiting also for other shipment from another chinese producer , should arrive next week. At the beginning of year there were also some amps comming (one is already well known from facebook threads 😂😂) from Teampie Electronics

Amp that was already discussed on FB (probably not produced directly by Teampie but Guangzhou Shengxin Electronics and sold by various traders - I have seen also the same amp from Shenzhen XHR car audio)

Smaller 4channel - i think the layout looks ok, curious how it will compare against standart audio brands amps

And the bigger 4channel - should have good headroom for full active front system, but also for a pasive front system with a SQ sub

 

Due to Covid things are moving very slowly, so my little home studio for testing these speakers is very postponed. I am waiting also for other shipment from another chinese producer , should arrive next week. At the beginning of year there were also some amps comming (one is already well known from facebook threads 😂😂) from Teampie Electronics

Amp that was already discussed on FB (probably not produced directly by Teampie but Guangzhou Shengxin Electronics and sold by various traders - I have seen also the same amp from Shenzhen XHR car audio)

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Smaller 4channel - i think the layout looks ok, curious how it will compare against standart audio brands amps

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And the bigger 4channel - should have good headroom for full active front system, but also for a pasive front system with a SQ sub

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Please tell us how they work. You are doing what we're supposed to be doing. Experimenting with different brands and trying things.


Pay no attention to these clowns. Funny how they care so much about Uyghurs, but didn't seem to mind it when the Chinese were making $1 tube socks in sweatshops.

 

Hi guys. Another shipment with speaker samples arrived today. These speakers look to be high quality - packaged in wooden box or small suitcase, white gloves, well built . Hope their sound will also correspond.

1st sample - looks to be kevlar membrane

2nd sample - carbon cone and full aluminium tweeter housing

 

@TommyDS I'll have to admit, those are impressive looking. Following this thread.

 

Good looking for sure...course the rubber will meet the road depending on how they measure and sound.

I AM curious if they are clones of any SPECIFIC speaker set or simply a mixed bag of high end speakers ... and gloves??

 

I wonder if Uighurs slaves had a hand in making this stuff.

 

The yellow ones look like Focal K2 knockoffs. There’s got to be a catch or price to pay here by someone. Either the Uighurs are paying with slave labor, or something else is not right. I don’t see the incentive for the manufacturer to make these, and make them right assuming they have expenses like everyone else. The shipping alone should be $75-$100.

We’ll see! I’m watching.

 

On the map the Uyghur area is on the far far left side of china, in their northwest. That place is not an electronics manufacturing area. However it's more of a textile producing area (cloth and related raw materials). The raw material potentially may get sent to the east/southeast where the electronic factories are located. Clothing and shoes/sneakers factories in the east/southeast too. All of us in the free world need to support the uyghur people.