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Helix DSP Ultra, V Twelve and V Twelve MK2 comparison

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I was comparing the technical data for the following and need help deciding between the two

Helix DSP Ultra

I see that the DAC used in DSP Ultra and V Twelve DSP version 1 was from AKM,
However V Twelve DSP MK2 has BurrBrown 24 bit chips.

Need help from the forum to understand how this impacts the output. I understand there are other considerations such as output power.

I copied technical data from Audiotec Fischer portal for comparison

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The sampling rate is 48khz which is a limiting factor. Also with respect to DAC you can actually hear a difference. To be honest the sonic characteristics is dependent upon the different electrical component and just not the dac. Ultra is definitely going to sound different and better than v12 mk2.
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Same specs for amps. Different chips. Audiotech fischer is buying new chips from Texas Instruments.
there was a fire at the AKM plant.. so new versions with different chips must be produced. Anyways the Burr brown and AKM is splitting hairs... Both are excellent.

I personally own an Ultra but it was not because it had a higher sampling rate.. 44k is fine.. it plays up to 22khz.. i can only hear up to 15khz anyways.. it was purely because i thought 75watts was not enough power..

Now if you have speakers with decent sensitivity it is probably is fine.. especially because the helix amps clip very cleanly almost like a class A/B amp.. they dont get all nasty 20% away from the clip point... so you can use the full power.. and get a sensitive driver.. and be 100% OK.

I decided to get the Ultra so I have flexibility switching amps.. (with higher power than 75 watts) but its become a pain in the a$$... honestly my next car I will likely do a V12 and model speakers inside winisd to make sure i get ones that have high sensitivity.. Eton Core and Onyx will get to full tilt (reach xmax) on only 40w - my Scan Golds and GB60s needed about 70w before reaching xmax... due to a bit lower sensitivity..

There are many factors at play.. but the sampling rate and DAC chips would be at the bottom of my list of concerns, because with any Helix product.. they are great.
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The Ultra is top of the line on everything vs the rest. Highly doubt there’s audible difference the Akm vs burr. The difference you will hear though, is the S/N. The ultra is way better than the rest, iirc only the zapco 16ch dsp has similar S/N. Requires high end everything to hit these stellar numbers.
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The V Twelve MK2 also has the new "future proof" SCP port, but I still prefer the AKM sound of my OG V twelve DSP.

BTW, DSP Ultra is not an AMP.
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